There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

“Ignorance won't topple science”

Since: Jan 11

Terra, Sol

#227207 Feb 4, 2013
Jeez. I've been gone since early December, and there are still absolutely no new arguments from the PLAs. Just the same old BS that we've proven wrong several times over.:/

And what's worse is that none of them are even amusing while presenting their recycled bull.

(Then again, I haven't completely caught up to the thread yet.)
Dr Shrink

Baltimore, MD

#227208 Feb 4, 2013
Man of Science wrote:
Jeez. I've been gone since early December, and there are still absolutely no new arguments from the PLAs. Just the same old BS that we've proven wrong several times over.:/
And what's worse is that none of them are even amusing while presenting their recycled bull.
(Then again, I haven't completely caught up to the thread yet.)
I just came back from Jurasic Park full of atheistic missing links and fish emgrios aborted from old fishes and born as atheists on this earth

but never found you overthere,
I assume you commited low profile crime( stole from old mama on the street her purse with 30 cents) and you were sentenced to prison

and your BS never is changed,only more violent verbaly
because brain moral degradation of your animal atheistic skull is high developed since beginning

just urgent help of dr Shrink can possible stop your disease after next 6 month close internal mental institution for all atheistic animals looking like humans

be careful continental waters of terras lands because know is controled by huge giants Gulu Gulou ready to swallow you like old stinking fish
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227209 Feb 4, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
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I just came back from Jurasic Park full of atheistic missing links and fish emgrios aborted from old fishes and born as atheists on this earth
but never found you overthere,
I assume you commited low profile crime( stole from old mama on the street her purse with 30 cents) and you were sentenced to prison
and your BS never is changed,only more violent verbaly
because brain moral degradation of your animal atheistic skull is high developed since beginning
just urgent help of dr Shrink can possible stop your disease after next 6 month close internal mental institution for all atheistic animals looking like humans
be careful continental waters of terras lands because know is controled by huge giants Gulu Gulou ready to swallow you like old stinking fish
I didn't understand anything that you just posted...what the hell are "huge giants Gulu Gulou?"
Doctor REALITY

Searcy, AR

#227210 Feb 4, 2013
Abortion is MURDER!! Will abortions go UP when many pregnant females begin to REALIZE that they won't be able to afford the coming MANDATED Obamacare healthcare plan?? Better start learning to keep your draws on!!

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Saint Clairsville, OH

#227211 Feb 4, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
Abortion is MURDER!! Will abortions go UP when many pregnant females begin to REALIZE that they won't be able to afford the coming MANDATED Obamacare healthcare plan?? Better start learning to keep your draws on!!
Just goes to show how much you don't understand about this health care program. Ignorance seems to be a way of life for you. Try educating yourself.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227212 Feb 4, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Just goes to show how much you don't understand about this health care program. Ignorance seems to be a way of life for you. Try educating yourself.
I will never understand why so many Americans are actually afraid of the idea of universal health care -- just because it's socialised? Come ON!! The Cold War ended AGES ago, and anyways, health care shouldn't be a luxury, it should be a right!

“Ignorance is bliss.”

Since: May 11

Saint Clairsville, OH

#227213 Feb 4, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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I will never understand why so many Americans are actually afraid of the idea of universal health care -- just because it's socialised? Come ON!! The Cold War ended AGES ago, and anyways, health care shouldn't be a luxury, it should be a right!
Because it boils down to the fact that some people don't think all people deserve access to adequate medical care. They also believe this would decrease the quality of their own medical care, and they, of course, should always come first before anyone else.
mama-san

Everett, WA

#227214 Feb 4, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Because it boils down to the fact that some people don't think all people deserve access to adequate medical care. They also believe this would decrease the quality of their own medical care, and they, of course, should always come first before anyone else.
Apparently they think that if a woman can't afford to pay for decent health care, she can afford to take care of a child for 18 years.
*rolling my eyes*

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#227215 Feb 5, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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I will never understand why so many Americans are actually afraid of the idea of universal health care -- just because it's socialised? Come ON!! The Cold War ended AGES ago, and anyways, health care shouldn't be a luxury, it should be a right!
And I'll never understand why so many Hispanic men are afraid of the idea of independent self-supporting intelligent women.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#227216 Feb 5, 2013
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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Because it boils down to the fact that some people don't think all people deserve access to adequate medical care. They also believe this would decrease the quality of their own medical care, and they, of course, should always come first before anyone else.
They feel that way because they're greedy, selfish, entitlement whoors and care nothing for anyone outside their own little circle.*IF* they care about others at all. I think most of them would run out of a burning building tripping and trampling over their own families and neighbours.
(misspelling intentional)
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227217 Feb 5, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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And I'll never understand why so many Hispanic men are afraid of the idea of independent self-supporting intelligent women.
If anything it can attributed to general misogyny, not just machismo.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227218 Feb 5, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>They feel that way because they're greedy, selfish, entitlement whoors and care nothing for anyone outside their own little circle.*IF* they care about others at all. I think most of them would run out of a burning building tripping and trampling over their own families and neighbours.
(misspelling intentional)
But why would supporting universal health care equate with selfishness and greed? Doesn't wanting UNIVERSAL health care say loud and clear that you support your right to live? That you support others clamouring for that right too? Wy would it translate as entitlement?

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#227219 Feb 5, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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It's the christian's all purpose answer. "pray and you will understand."
Then when no answer comes, as it won't, they'll insist you didn't pray hard enough.
It's religious abuse at it's best. Basically, it's always YOUR fault.
Been there, done that, have the t-shirt.
Well, the FIRST thing that you need to pray for is that Super Secret Jesus Magic Decoder Ring (well, pray... and send in 12 box tops plus 10% of your brain for postage and handling!) and THEN you too will be able to let the Bible say anything that you need it to say, at any time, even if you just had it say something completely the opposite only moments before.

Hurry, angels are standing by to process your order.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#227220 Feb 5, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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I will never understand why so many Americans are actually afraid of the idea of universal health care -- just because it's socialised? Come ON!! The Cold War ended AGES ago, and anyways, health care shouldn't be a luxury, it should be a right!
Americans fear universal health care for the simple reason that a couple of years ago, the health care insurance industry started pumping out the message that they ought to. The usual suspects (Rush and the other corporate lapdogs) dutifully began spewing nonsense to make the ignorant fear something that common sense should tell everyone is a good thing.

“Ignorance won't topple science”

Since: Jan 11

Terra, Sol

#227221 Feb 5, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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I will never understand why so many Americans are actually afraid of the idea of universal health care -- just because it's socialised? Come ON!! The Cold War ended AGES ago, and anyways, health care shouldn't be a luxury, it should be a right!
From what I've seen, a major factor is that a lot of them don't believe that they should pay higher taxes to support the system. They believe that if you can't afford health care, then you're SOL. The whole "it's every man for himself" bull.

Personally, I'm all for universal health care.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

Bath, UK

#227222 Feb 6, 2013
Liam R wrote:
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Americans fear universal health care for the simple reason that a couple of years ago, the health care insurance industry started pumping out the message that they ought to. The usual suspects (Rush and the other corporate lapdogs) dutifully began spewing nonsense to make the ignorant fear something that common sense should tell everyone is a good thing.
Even to the extent that they began telling lies about the UK National Health Service - which got more than a few of us across this side of the pond very p'd off. Have done a comparison of costs for treatment over here with those in the US (via my American friends)- our treatments are up to 10x cheaper. Why? No profit element in the UK.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227223 Feb 6, 2013
Liam, Man, Tony... it seems as though the corporate message has much more influential missionaries than the humanitarian cause does. Insurance companies and the far right scream so much louder than their fellow US citizens into milking people of their money while they die....

“IMAGINE no religion!”

Since: Feb 09

usa

#227227 Feb 7, 2013
A situation has come up in my family.

My 22 yr old son is engaged to a girl who is 19.

she has no family to speak of. Her mother is in jail for selling drugs. a repeat offender. her father passed away 2 yrs ago from a heart attack. she lived with a cousin until she graduated high school last may. then she had to find her own apartment.

She had her father's life insurance put aside for college, along with the state's college fund. So she started college this past Sept. About the same time she and my son started dating ( they knew each other before that, meeting thru mutual friends).

They moved in together back in Nov.

I found out in jan, she is pregnant. She doesn't want to have the baby, she knows she isn't ready to be a mom and wants to concentrate on her college classes and then get a job.

My hubby and I talked with them at length about this. We offered them all the options, including helping to raise the baby IF that is what they want. We also talked about adoption. But she just doesn't want to be pregnant. Alot of her fear is she will turn out like her mom. We reassured her that she is nothing like her mom, but she has made the choice.

she has had an IUD for a year now. Which just goes to show those that say IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE PREGNANT, USE BIRTH CONTROL........ that it doesn't always work.

next week I am going with her to have the procedure.

My son has thanked me several times for being there for them, and especially being there for her and making her a part of our family.

she has stated that she doesn't know how she would cope if not for all of us being so supportive in such a situation.

please keep our family in your thoughts next week as we go thru this, and hopefully everything will turn out ok (i.e. no complications).

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#227230 Feb 9, 2013
The Advocate wrote:
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But why would supporting universal health care equate with selfishness and greed? Doesn't wanting UNIVERSAL health care say loud and clear that you support your right to live? That you support others clamouring for that right too? Wy would it translate as entitlement?
You misunderstood what I was responding to. It's those AGAINST UHC that are greedy and selfish.
The Advocate

Mexico, Mexico

#227232 Feb 9, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>You misunderstood what I was responding to. It's those AGAINST UHC that are greedy and selfish.
Oh, my apologies!

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