There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

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#226946 Jan 8, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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Livestrong: I wouldn't call it a valid site. Anyone else?
Mayo clinic: Site wouldn't come up.
Wiki answers...anybody can answer anything on there.
The next two are biased sites, not valid for a debate.
Daily Mail? Really? England's answer to the Enquirer?
The last one, the only valid site says this:
Weeks 6 - 7 of pregnancy (gestational age)
Arm and leg buds become visible.
The brain develops into five areas and some cranial nerves are visible.
The eyes and ear structures begin to form.
Tissue forms that develops into the vertebra and some other bones.
The heart continues to develop and now beats at a regular rhythm.
<<Week 6-7 gestational age>>
I agree. You are not a genius.
Lol...typical brainless guff.
If you don't like the links do your own research.
Cheers <3

Since: Feb 08

Philadelphia, PA

#226947 Jan 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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What do I do that you might know about? Type words into an anonymous forum. That's it. You do that don't you?
You are amusing child but my lil 4 year old, that I did not kill, is much more enlightening as far as conversation goes, so, TTFN :D
<3
I repeat for the Dim: what you have done and do here speaks louder than what you say.

Since: Feb 08

Philadelphia, PA

#226948 Jan 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Lol...typical brainless guff.
If you don't like the links do your own research.
Cheers <3
You do no research before you bloviate all over this board. Remember "apposite?" I do. What you do speaks louder than what you say.

Since: Feb 08

Philadelphia, PA

#226949 Jan 8, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Believe me, God and I BOTH know better.(C:
You do not speak for God. Pretending that you do is the sin of blasphemy. Mind the log in your own eye.

Since: Feb 08

Philadelphia, PA

#226950 Jan 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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The 'research' aka copy and paste, was done for YOU, oh special one. I already know.
Peace, love and babies everywhere <3
You are obviously an ignorant boob, at least on this topic. You do not do research. You have not the faintest idea what "doing research" means. You know a dictionary exists but you decline or do not know how to use one and you lie about the dictionary's contents because you can. You have no morals I can discern. And yet, you feel entitled to come here and criticize the values of others. Feh. You skeeve me.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#226951 Jan 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
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Lol...typical brainless guff.
If you don't like the links do your own research.
Cheers <3
Brainless? I agreed with one of your links. Thank you for admitting you are brainless.

http://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php

Heart beats at 3 weeks 1 day after gestation.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prenatal-car...

Heart beats at 4 weeks after gestation.

As you correctly pointed out, it's not hard to get the answer; it's not even remotely hard to get a VALID, NON-BIASED site to get the answer.

Just try a little harder.

Since: Feb 08

Philadelphia, PA

#226952 Jan 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Dearest tony1003, you are are moron.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/242600-when...
Wow! This was the first thing that came up! I must be a genius (not saying much on topix, I know)....
I didn't even have to go into Hospital records...amazing, this google thing is really awesome!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prenatal-car...
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/fetaldevel...
http://www.realalternatives.org/pregnant/feta...
Inbred eeejit perhaps?
An interesting news report.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-131...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/artic...
Took me 3 minutes to find these. Did your mother smoke crack when pregnant with you by any chance?
If so, don't feel badly, it's not your fault you're deficient.
Peace and love and lots of living, breathing babies everywhere <3
(Not to be eaten!)
A fetus at the age you are discussing does not have a functional heart. It has in the early stages a pulsating tube that is a precursor to a fully developed heart.

You do not know how to do research. You do not know what "proof" is. I do not know how you got out of high school without knowing these things. Your education is subpar. And yet here you are, trying to tell people clearly superior to you how to run their lives. What a hoot.

“Becoming a better me!”

Since: Jul 09

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#226953 Jan 8, 2013
CherryTheTart wrote:
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You are obviously an ignorant boob, at least on this topic. You do not do research. You have not the faintest idea what "doing research" means. You know a dictionary exists but you decline or do not know how to use one and you lie about the dictionary's contents because you can. You have no morals I can discern. And yet, you feel entitled to come here and criticize the values of others. Feh. You skeeve me.
I would think that "research" would include the action if finding reputable, valid information. But then, that does take a bit of effort; something she seems to not value highly.

Other than her laughably meant-to-annoy-but-fails-miser ably line of "lots of babies." If only she was concerned about "lots of healthy loved children" or "healthy, self-supporting, happy adults."

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#226954 Jan 8, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
Even if it DOES have a heartbeat at two weeks or two days or two minutes after conception....it matters not.
If a woman cannot be the mother that child deserves and knows she cannot give it up for adoption, she is being responsible by terminating the pregnancy.
Unless you can love and nurture that child for it's entire life, you have no business giving birth.
It's called RESPONSIBILITY.
Well, while I can't argue with you there, I would contend that the responsibility begins at ensuring you don't get preggers in the first place if you're not ready to have a child.

Since: Dec 12

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#226956 Jan 8, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
Even if it DOES have a heartbeat at two weeks or two days or two minutes after conception....it matters not.
If a woman cannot be the mother that child deserves and knows she cannot give it up for adoption, she is being responsible by terminating the pregnancy.
Unless you can love and nurture that child for it's entire life, you have no business giving birth.
It's called RESPONSIBILITY.
"Mary's little baby, sleep, sweetly sleep,"
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#226957 Jan 8, 2013
CherryTheTart wrote:
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I repeat for the Dim: what you have done and do here speaks louder than what you say.
"Little baby Jesus, sweetly sleep, do not stir;"
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#226958 Jan 8, 2013
CherryTheTart wrote:
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You do no research before you bloviate all over this board. Remember "apposite?" I do. What you do speaks louder than what you say.
"We will lend a coat of fur,
We will rock you, rock you, rock you,
We will rock you, rock you, rock you:
See the fur to keep you warm,
Snugly round your tiny form."
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#226959 Jan 8, 2013
CherryTheTart wrote:
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You do not speak for God. Pretending that you do is the sin of blasphemy. Mind the log in your own eye.
"Mary's little baby, sleep, sweetly sleep,
Sleep in comfort, slumber deep;
We will rock you, rock you, rock you,
We will rock you, rock you, rock you:
We will serve you all we can,
Darling, darling little man,"

Czech. Tr. O.B.C.
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#226960 Jan 8, 2013
CherryTheTart wrote:
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You are obviously an ignorant boob, at least on this topic. You do not do research. You have not the faintest idea what "doing research" means. You know a dictionary exists but you decline or do not know how to use one and you lie about the dictionary's contents because you can. You have no morals I can discern. And yet, you feel entitled to come here and criticize the values of others. Feh. You skeeve me.
Feeling Good
The New Mood Therapy
David D. Burns, M.D.

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Figure 9-2. Hal's homework for recording and challenging his self-critical thoughts. He wrote down the Rational Responses during the therapy session (see text).

Negative Thoughts
(SELF-CRITICISM)

1. I am lazy.
2. I enjoy being ill.
3. I am inadequate. I am a failure.
4. This lying around doing nothing represents the real me.
5. I could have done more.

Rational Responses
(SELF-DEFENCE)

1. I have worked hard much of my life.
2. It's not fun.
3. I've had some degree of success. We've had a good home. We've reared three outstanding children. People admire and respect me. I have involved myself in community activity.
4. I am experiencing symptoms of an illness. It's not the "real me."
5. At least I did more than most people. It's meaningless and pointless to say, "I could have done more" because anyone could say this.
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#226961 Jan 8, 2013
mamma-san wrote:
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Brainless? I agreed with one of your links. Thank you for admitting you are brainless.
http://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php
Heart beats at 3 weeks 1 day after gestation.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prenatal-car...
Heart beats at 4 weeks after gestation.
As you correctly pointed out, it's not hard to get the answer; it's not even remotely hard to get a VALID, NON-BIASED site to get the answer.
Just try a little harder.
The Little Prince
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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I

Once when I was six I saw a magnificent picture in a book about the jungle, called True Stories. It showed a boa constrictor swallowing a wild beast. Here is a copy of the picture.___O___>
In the book it said: "Boa constrictors swallow their prey whole, without chewing. Afterward they are no longer able to move, and they sleep during the six months of their digestion."
<3

Since: Dec 12

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#226962 Jan 8, 2013
CherryTheTart wrote:
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A fetus at the age you are discussing does not have a functional heart. It has in the early stages a pulsating tube that is a precursor to a fully developed heart.
You do not know how to do research. You do not know what "proof" is. I do not know how you got out of high school without knowing these things. Your education is subpar. And yet here you are, trying to tell people clearly superior to you how to run their lives. What a hoot.
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"Hal was beginning to grasp that it wasn't helping him to live by a double standard. He judged himself by harsh rules that he would never apply to anyone else. He initially defended this tendency--as many demanding perfectionists will--by claiming it would help him in some way to be so much harder on himself than on others." Tbc...
<3

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#226963 Jan 8, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> And a few million others.(C:
Reality is not a popularity contest. No matter how many people choose to believe in Jesus, he is still nothing more than a long dead Jewish rabbi and a false god.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

New Milton, UK

#226964 Jan 8, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
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Well, while I can't argue with you there, I would contend that the responsibility begins at ensuring you don't get preggers in the first place if you're not ready to have a child.
I don't think you would find any argument with that view - proper birth control is paramount. Unfortunately in the RW it does sometimes fail and then choices have to be made. Some decide to go through with the pregnancy and birth, some decide on a termination. It is the choice of the person carrying the foetus. Personally, I'd prefer if they had the baby, but since it isn't my uterus, it isn't my call.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#226965 Jan 8, 2013
tony1003 wrote:
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"I am not responsible for your inability to express yourself clearly". I don't love quotes, merely think that is apposite in your case.
No good saying you can provide links - do it. I have already done my research. Here's one of several I used: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prenatal-car...
You will note that the heart does not BEGIN to form until 5 weeks after conception - be a little tricky for there to be a heartbeat prior to that development.
...
Well, the heart beating before it forms is exactly like a fetus being a baby before it is born. Just ignore reality and it all works out just fine.

“Ignore the trolls”

Since: Oct 08

New Milton, UK

#226966 Jan 8, 2013
Juicylu wrote:
Dearest tony1003, you are are moron.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/242600-when...
Wow! This was the first thing that came up! I must be a genius (not saying much on topix, I know)....
I didn't even have to go into Hospital records...amazing, this google thing is really awesome!
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/prenatal-car...
http://www.nrlc.org/abortion/facts/fetaldevel...
http://www.realalternatives.org/pregnant/feta...
Inbred eeejit perhaps?
An interesting news report.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-131...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/artic...
Took me 3 minutes to find these. Did your mother smoke crack when pregnant with you by any chance?
If so, don't feel badly, it's not your fault you're deficient.
Peace and love and lots of living, breathing babies everywhere <3
(Not to be eaten!)
And you are a very rude ignoramus masquerading as a Christian, lacking all the values such a person should have. You have absolutely no right whatsoever to make insulting references to my mother, who for your information is no longer alive.

One link does not work.

One link (Daily Mail) is utterly irrelevant. Not a paper renowned in the UK for its accuracy in reportage.

Two links SUPPORT what I have said, that heart development begins at 5 weeks - ergo no heartbeat at least till then.

Two links comne from rabidly anti-abortion sites will post information because it fits their agenda, not because it is accurate.

And that is the level of your research skills? Now work out who is the moron. Just deflection to avoid answering the question I asked as to why there should be lots of babies everywhere.

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