There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

" You did not read the material on Gosnell. I knew you would not as you are intellectually dishonest. None of you fruitbats is honest or sane. "
Did I not go to some shrill feminist blog for their interpretation of things? Is intellectual dishonesty now merely not taking your side in a debate? I knew about Gosnell well before this conversation. Perhaps you can give me your view of Gosnell instead of whining that I'm not reading your mind. The whole problem with him was that he provided illegal abortions, not that those abortions weren't legal.
"So let us talk about how dishonest you are. I did not say 'What you're saying is that if Roe is done away with, horrible crimes will be committed by... pro-choicers.' You said that. You are into pejorative blaming instead of rational information and policy."
Actually, if abortions is criminalized and illegal abortions pop up, every single one of those abortion doctors will be pro-choice. Complaints about "back-alley" abortions must tacitly admit that.
"I say that the murders committed at the Gosnell Clinic and women going to Mexico for abortions are both happening now when abortion is legal and somewhat available. If abortion is illegal, it will all be a charnel house."
Before Roe, roughly 100 women each year died from back-alley abortion. More people die each year from falling off of latters.

Nobody needs abide by your ridiculous categories. You lack reason. I am PRO LIFE and therefore I am adamantly PRO CHOICE. Health issues cannot be reduced to binary categories. Black/White is not all there is. There is Gray.

We will not continue to discuss this because you refuse to acquire the information required to discuss this issue competently. Sneering and shaming does not an argument make. When you have actually acquired the information, I will know and THEN we can continue. Right now it is like trying to have a discussion about Proust with a 5 year old.

[Nanack Kenden]

"We will not continue to discuss this because you refuse to acquire the information required to discuss this issue competently. Sneering and shaming does not an argument make. When you have actually acquired the information, I will know and THEN we can continue. Right now it is like trying to have a discussion about Proust with a 5 year old."

I asked you what your interpretation of the Gosnell case was, and you didn't answer. I honestly have no clue what you're trying to imply.

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

"We will not continue to discuss this because you refuse to acquire the information required to discuss this issue competently. Sneering and shaming does not an argument make. When you have actually acquired the information, I will know and THEN we can continue. Right now it is like trying to have a discussion about Proust with a 5 year old."
I asked you what your interpretation of the Gosnell case was, and you didn't answer. I honestly have no clue what you're trying to imply.

You finally said something honest. How was the Gosnell Clinic different that all other abortion clinics? When you can tell me, I will know you did the reading necessary. And tell me then why it was different. You have said so many rude shaming inaccurate things, I see no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt and continue to act as though you are sentient. Got it?

[Nanack Kenden]

" You finally said something honest. How was the Gosnell Clinic different that all other abortion clinics? When you can tell me, I will know you did the reading necessary. And tell me then why it was different. You have said so many rude shaming inaccurate things, I see no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt and continue to act as though you are sentient. Got it? "

You're getting a little worked up. How about before typing, you count to fifty or something?

Also, "rude shaming inaccurate"? Someone needs to ground up some St John's wort is your coffee.

I just rechecked his Wikipedia page. Gosnell is responsible for a botched abortion leading to a death of a woman, as well as seven infanticides.

So what? Doesn't that make him a super-abortionist?

[Liam R]

Doctor REALITY wrote:

Abortion is MURDER!...and Holy Almighty God SEES IT ALL!! And He will AVENGE the MURDER of His defensless babies!!

Silly, ignorant child. The God of the Bible is just fine with abortion, nor does He think of it as murder.

[Liam R]

mamma-san wrote:

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And the Flying Spaghetti Monster has a special vat of boiling water for people like you. Watch out! Or HE will BOIL you with a huge package of spaghetti and smother you in Ragu.

Eeew. Not even a good sauce? How cruel.

[Liam R]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

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Before Roe, roughly 100 women each year died from back-alley abortion. More people die each year from falling off of latters.

So, you are okay with a hundred preventable deaths each year?

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

" You finally said something honest. How was the Gosnell Clinic different that all other abortion clinics? When you can tell me, I will know you did the reading necessary. And tell me then why it was different. You have said so many rude shaming inaccurate things, I see no reason to give you the benefit of the doubt and continue to act as though you are sentient. Got it? "
You're getting a little worked up. How about before typing, you count to fifty or something?
Also, "rude shaming inaccurate"? Someone needs to ground up some St John's wort is your coffee.
I just rechecked his Wikipedia page. Gosnell is responsible for a botched abortion leading to a death of a woman, as well as seven infanticides.
So what? Doesn't that make him a super-abortionist?

That is what I asked you. Go back and look. If you cannot tell me "so what," then you are incapable of analysis and/or reading comprehension and not worth discussing this with.

You are probably just here to moan and foam. Have at it. Some people just need to have somebody to look down on, I guess. Your act is lame.

[Nanack Kenden]

" That is what I asked you. Go back and look. If you cannot tell me "so what," then you are incapable of analysis and/or reading comprehension and not worth discussing this with."

Alright. I've asked you four or five times now what you wanted me to understand. Instead of just telling me you just keep belittling me and telling me to go back. You are either:

a. A Troll.

b. A Moron.

c. Both.

"You are probably just here to..." Blah blah blah.

You're probably just here because you live a dreary life and need someplace where you can feel like an EMPOWERED WOMAN!

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

" That is what I asked you. Go back and look. If you cannot tell me "so what," then you are incapable of analysis and/or reading comprehension and not worth discussing this with."
Alright. I've asked you four or five times now what you wanted me to understand. Instead of just telling me you just keep belittling me and telling me to go back. You are either:
a. A Troll.
b. A Moron.
c. Both.
"You are probably just here to..." Blah blah blah.
You're probably just here because you live a dreary life and need someplace where you can feel like an EMPOWERED WOMAN!

Historically and currently homo sapiens has three responses to unwanted reproduction (children): contraception, abortion and infanticide. Personally, I prefer the first two in that order.

If the first two responses are made unavailable, the third response is inevitable. The Forced Birther response to this fact is not pro life or rational. Therefore it is insane.

I need not even express the bad effects on individual women. The effects of such policies hurt children enough for the average bear.

Now I can give you lots of real world evidence, but I think you can google "shooting street children" just as well as I can.

I know that you cannot think or read well enough to understand what I just answered you. Or to figure out how it relates to Gosnell etc. In the battle of wits, you are currently unarmed.

So we will not continue to discuss this public health issue. How about them Eagles?

[CherryTheTart]

Liam R wrote:

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Silly, ignorant child. The God of the Bible is just fine with abortion, nor does He think of it as murder.

I do not think, Liam, that I have told you lately how much I heart you. No man is more attractive than a prochoice man. God bless you. I know S/he does.

[Nanack Kenden]

"No man is more attractive than a prochoice man"

You find Gosnell attractive?

[Nanack Kenden]

"If the first two responses are made unavailable, the third response is inevitable. The Forced Birther response to this fact is not pro life or rational. Therefore it is insane."

So if a woman can't get an abortion, it's a certainty that that she'll smother her baby. Do you have some sort of statistic on cradle-smothering before and after 1973?

"Now I can give you lots of real world evidence, but I think you can google "shooting street children" just as well as I can.

I know that you cannot think or read well enough to understand what I just answered you. Or to figure out how it relates to Gosnell etc. In the battle of wits, you are currently unarmed."

I'm pretty sure that you have no clue the meaning of what you've just said or how it relates to Gosnell. Is it just "A lack of abortion causes unwanted children?" Because that's not a deep, unbeatable message.

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

"No man is more attractive than a prochoice man"
You find Gosnell attractive?

Does the framistan connect to the leeway?

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

"If the first two responses are made unavailable, the third response is inevitable. The Forced Birther response to this fact is not pro life or rational. Therefore it is insane."
So if a woman can't get an abortion, it's a certainty that that she'll smother her baby. Do you have some sort of statistic on cradle-smothering before and after 1973?
"Now I can give you lots of real world evidence, but I think you can google "shooting street children" just as well as I can.
I know that you cannot think or read well enough to understand what I just answered you. Or to figure out how it relates to Gosnell etc. In the battle of wits, you are currently unarmed."
I'm pretty sure that you have no clue the meaning of what you've just said or how it relates to Gosnell. Is it just "A lack of abortion causes unwanted children?" Because that's not a deep, unbeatable message.

What is it about "this conversation with me about this subject is over" you do not understand?

[Nanack Kenden]

"What is it about "this conversation with me about this subject is over" you do not understand?"

I don't understand the mentality of someone who goes to an online forum about abortion to argue and goes nuts when people argue back.

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

"What is it about "this conversation with me about this subject is over" you do not understand?"
I don't understand the mentality of someone who goes to an online forum about abortion to argue and goes nuts when people argue back.

You do not argue in the classic sense of the word. You slut shame. You lie, whether out of ignorance or spleen is not clear. You seem unable to comprehend the concepts of proof or unbiased opinion. You are boring. You are predictable. You seem unable to extrapolate from facts provided. I think you are about twelve. Bye bye now.

[Nanack Kenden]

"You do not argue in the classic sense of the word. You slut shame. You lie, whether out of ignorance or spleen is not clear. You seem unable to comprehend the concepts of proof or unbiased opinion. You are boring. You are predictable. You seem unable to extrapolate from facts provided. I think you are about twelve. Bye bye now."

Wow. How stupid do you have to be to fail at trolling to that extent? Getting angry at the attended target is an amateur mistake.

Either that, or you really are a colossal moron who gets upset when going to an internet form and getting pissed off not everyone agrees with her.

[wrong]

Life is Precious wrote:

<quoted text>Even when BC fails abortion is still being used as birth control.

you are so far from the truth people get abortions to prevent a child whom they could not care for to avoid having a hard life. Yes there are people who adopt but there are not enough people to adopt every child who cannot be cared for appropriatly. Further more its against the law to abort a child past the first trimester even though there is a heartbeat the baby is in no way shape or form developed enough for this to be called murder. When it comes down to it its a womans right to choose let them choose what they wish

[CherryTheTart]

Nanack Kenden wrote:

"You do not argue in the classic sense of the word. You slut shame. You lie, whether out of ignorance or spleen is not clear. You seem unable to comprehend the concepts of proof or unbiased opinion. You are boring. You are predictable. You seem unable to extrapolate from facts provided. I think you are about twelve. Bye bye now."
Wow. How stupid do you have to be to fail at trolling to that extent? Getting angry at the attended target is an amateur mistake.
Either that, or you really are a colossal moron who gets upset when going to an internet form and getting pissed off not everyone agrees with her.

Bye bye now.