There is Everything Wrong with Abortion

[lifes a beach]

EMS Servant wrote:

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It's one thing to have disinterest in something however I am opposed to abortion because it ends a life and I don't want any part of it yet I'm forced to contribute to it 52 times a year against my will.

And I'm against paying for other people's children- STRONGLY against it so therefore why should I be forced to pay towards mothers or fathers on welfare? Or public schools?(As I have a personal biased that many private schools handedly outperform many public schools). Point being that's simply just the way it is, and I highly doubt that is changing anytime soon.

[EMS Servant]

lifes a beach wrote:

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And I'm against paying for other people's children- STRONGLY against it so therefore why should I be forced to pay towards mothers or fathers on welfare? Or public schools?(As I have a personal biased that many private schools handedly outperform many public schools). Point being that's simply just the way it is, and I highly doubt that is changing anytime soon.

So it's okay for a woman to have the choice to kill her baby even if it forces me to financially support it against my will. That doesn't sound very pro choice in forcing someone to do something against their will.

[lifes a beach]

EMS Servant wrote:

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So it's okay for a woman to have the choice to kill her baby even if it forces me to financially support it against my will. That doesn't sound very pro choice in forcing someone to do something against their will.

Many abortions are performed by private doctors and therefore have nothing to do with your money. You can whine all you want about it, just as I can whine about paying public school taxes but it's not going to change anything- that is the way the government has chosen to set up taxation, I didn't set up the system.

[lifes a beach]

EMS Servant wrote:

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So it's okay for a woman to have the choice to kill her baby even if it forces me to financially support it against my will. That doesn't sound very pro choice in forcing someone to do something against their will.

Somethings such as the specific allotment of our tax dollars we do not have a direct choice in, luckily, abortion as a medical procedure is not one of those areas. Apples to Oranges.

[EMS Servant]

lifes a beach wrote:

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Somethings such as the specific allotment of our tax dollars we do not have a direct choice in, luckily, abortion as a medical procedure is not one of those areas. Apples to Oranges.

Apples to oranges like comparing educating humans to killing them?

[NWmoon]

EMS Servant wrote:

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Apples to oranges like comparing educating humans to killing them?

No babies are harmed by abortion. Just a wad of goo removed.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one. Works for me.

[EMS Servant]

NWmoon wrote:

<quoted text>No babies are harmed by abortion. Just a wad of goo removed.
Don't like abortion? Don't have one. Works for me.

I should't have to pay for them either but there are abortion clinics that receive federal funding and that means I'm forced to pay into assisting it 52 times a year.

P.S. that unborn human is not a wad of goo...it has form and function.

[love_spell]

mamma-san wrote:

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Welcome to TOPIX. I can post "good morning" and someone from Indiana comes along and posts it as spam, stupid, and whatever else.
If you're going to be here, grow a thick skin. Don't let little things, like those icons, bother you.

hey what ya got against us peeps here in indiana?!!!!

**wink wink**

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[Man of Science]

EMS Servant wrote:

I think they need to cut federal and state funding for abortion clinics...I disagree with the concept of abortion and I don't think I should have to have money taken out of my pay each week so people can kill their unborn children. Pro-choicers say stay out of our wombs...I say stay out of our wallets. We should be able to opt out but are forced to pay instead.

A.) Then by that logic, we should cut funding to rehab centers; because I don't think I should have to pay for other people blowing their lives to hell on drug or excessive alcohol consumption. However, something happened that messed their lives up; so I still pay to help them on the route they )and sometimes the courts) see fit because I'm a decent person.
B.) No, abortion does NOT kill an unborn child; it halts a POTENTIAL life, just like birth control does. There is a fine line between a "potentially life" and a "life." You'd do well to learn it.

(Who's willing to bet that the comparison in "A" went right over this guy's head?)

[Man of Science]

Minor edit to point A:
*[...]should have to pay for FIXING other people blowing their lives to hell on drug or excessive alcohol consumption[...]

[I Am Fine]

EMS Servant wrote:

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So it's okay for a woman to have the choice to kill her baby even if it forces me to financially support it against my will. That doesn't sound very pro choice in forcing someone to do something against their will.

To be honest, pro-life people do talk about not killing the baby when it's in the womb, but they don't really seem to care about the baby once it's born. They move on to the next victim.

[EMS Servant]

If you are indeed a man of science then you would realize that unborn human undergoes metabolism, it has biological systems in place to keep it in homeostasis and by all scientific definitions it is alive.

Man of Science wrote:

<quoted text>A.) Then by that logic, we should cut funding to rehab centers; because I don't think I should have to pay for other people blowing their lives to hell on drug or excessive alcohol consumption. However, something happened that messed their lives up; so I still pay to help them on the route they )and sometimes the courts) see fit because I'm a decent person.
B.) No, abortion does NOT kill an unborn child; it halts a POTENTIAL life, just like birth control does. There is a fine line between a "potentially life" and a "life." You'd do well to learn it.
(Who's willing to bet that the comparison in "A" went right over this guy's head?)

[EMS Servant]

I Am Fine wrote:

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To be honest, pro-life people do talk about not killing the baby when it's in the womb, but they don't really seem to care about the baby once it's born. They move on to the next victim.

Nice adhominem/red herring...go fish.

[EMS Servant]

P.S. Your A comparrison is comparring helping someone with a substance addiction to killing a innocent human. You're comparing apples and basketball courts.

Man of Science wrote:

<quoted text>A.) Then by that logic, we should cut funding to rehab centers; because I don't think I should have to pay for other people blowing their lives to hell on drug or excessive alcohol consumption. However, something happened that messed their lives up; so I still pay to help them on the route they )and sometimes the courts) see fit because I'm a decent person.
B.) No, abortion does NOT kill an unborn child; it halts a POTENTIAL life, just like birth control does. There is a fine line between a "potentially life" and a "life." You'd do well to learn it.
(Who's willing to bet that the comparison in "A" went right over this guy's head?)

[NWmoon]

EMS Servant wrote:

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I should't have to pay for them either but there are abortion clinics that receive federal funding and that means I'm forced to pay into assisting it 52 times a year.
P.S. that unborn human is not a wad of goo...it has form and function.

It's a wad of goo until it can survive on it's own.
How about some proof and real numbers about how much you're spending on abortions, hmm?
Don't like abortion, don't have one. What anyone else does is none of your business.
It's a wad of GOO! Nothing more during those first few weeks, and no guarantee it will ever be anything more.
NO pregnancy, no matter how wanted or cherished, is guaranteed to come to term.
What any woman does when it's still a wad of goo is not your concern.
Go take care of some of the lives that are already here, and keep your big nose out of women's medical decisions.

[EMS Servant]

NWmoon wrote:

<quoted text>It's a wad of goo until it can survive on it's own.
How about some proof and real numbers about how much you're spending on abortions, hmm?
Don't like abortion, don't have one. What anyone else does is none of your business.
It's a wad of GOO! Nothing more during those first few weeks, and no guarantee it will ever be anything more.
NO pregnancy, no matter how wanted or cherished, is guaranteed to come to term.
What any woman does when it's still a wad of goo is not your concern.
Go take care of some of the lives that are already here, and keep your big nose out of women's medical decisions.

Where did you learn your human lifespan development from?

[lifes a beach]

EMS Servant wrote:

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Apples to oranges like comparing educating humans to killing them?

Huh? That was a rather strange attempt at deflection of my point but ok...

[lifes a beach]

Man of Science wrote:

<quoted text>A.) Then by that logic, we should cut funding to rehab centers; because I don't think I should have to pay for other people blowing their lives to hell on drug or excessive alcohol consumption. However, something happened that messed their lives up; so I still pay to help them on the route they )and sometimes the courts) see fit because I'm a decent person.
B.) No, abortion does NOT kill an unborn child; it halts a POTENTIAL life, just like birth control does. There is a fine line between a "potentially life" and a "life." You'd do well to learn it.
(Who's willing to bet that the comparison in "A" went right over this guy's head?)

My previous point exactly THANK YOU!

[lifes a beach]

EMS Servant wrote:

P.S. Your A comparrison is comparring helping someone with a substance addiction to killing a innocent human. You're comparing apples and basketball courts.
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Not necessarily, I believe in justified killing so why is your opinion anymore important than mine? Just because YOU view abortion as more important than rehab facilities doesn't make that FACT.

[EMS Servant]

lifes a beach wrote:

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Not necessarily, I believe in justified killing so why is your opinion anymore important than mine? Just because YOU view abortion as more important than rehab facilities doesn't make that FACT.

Justified killing...like what for justice or self defense? Did the unborn ever assault you or have you ever seen one on death row?