There is Everything Wrong with Abortion
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#220437 May 7, 2012
LightForce wrote:
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Don't be caught this weekend unprepared when those uninvited guests show up to your door. Be the envy of all yer relatives with this lip-smackin' recipe. Here - set a spell an have a look-see:
Aplle Pie
A heap o' short sweetnin
A smigen o' wheat flour
A bit o' tartnin'
Less than a bit o' tart hide
Even less o' bever stick
A quotom o' mashed mace
Butter
A raw outcoverin fer a pie
A poke o' pome fruit
In the lower half o' yore pie outercoverin lay out layers o'pome an tween the layers sprinkle some o' yore tartnin' tart hide, wheaten flour, n' spices. Put some teeny dots o' butter over the top. Lay on the upper half o' yore pie outcoverin' with a few holes punched in fer to let out the steam n' bake a good bit.
Enjoy!
It's no wonder your girlfriend dumped you and gave away your baby.
You're a moron.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220438 May 7, 2012
Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>You still don't GET it.
No pro-choicer supports abortion in and of itself. And no pro-choicer supports having a baby and keeping it in and of itself.And no pro-choicer supports having a baby and giving it up for adoption in and of itself.
What pro-choice supports is.......wait for it, wait for it....is CHOICE.
The only INDIVIDUAL who has to "support" any or all of the above choices is the INDIVIDUAL who is pregnant.
And no- you are WRONG. A zygote, an embryo and a fetus are NOT individual PERSONS.
Yes- if a z/e/f is within the body of a HUMAN, it is of course, HUMAN.
I can't help that you can't differentiate between something being HUMAN and something being a PERSON.
And I can't help that you don't know what "individual" means.
As long as a z/e/f is ATTACHED to a woman by means of the umbilical cord, it is NOT an INDIVIDUAL as it cannot exist INDIVIDUALLY as it it solely dependent upon that attachment via the umbilical cord to survive.
I mean really- this is fifth grade stuff.
But okay- since you insist on using the misnomer of "unborn baby", then surely you can insist upon referring to yourself as an "undead corpse". I mean, after all, eventually you WILL be a corpse, so why not start referring to yourself as one now?
"This is all fifth grade material"(but as usual, everything was in it's place and spelled correctly).

Agree.

At the moment of conception a unique individual is created, different from both of it's parents.

So, apparently you are NOT smarter than a fifth grader.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220439 May 7, 2012
Mpnf1979 wrote:
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When you stop lacking the intelligence to have this debate, then I won't have to point it out that the gist of many of these conversations revolves around that exact point and yet, it's gone completely over your head.
No, I do not consider a 6-wk-old fetus a person.
Now you've gone off into lala land. Please read before you reply next time, or at least try to reply without the bad attitude.
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220440 May 7, 2012
LightForce wrote:
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"This is all fifth grade material"(but as usual, everything was in it's place and spelled correctly).
Agree.
At the moment of conception a unique individual is created, different from both of it's parents.
So, apparently you are NOT smarter than a fifth grader.
A unique mass of cells is created.

Those cells are not INDIVIDUAL as they cannot live SEPARATE/APART from the body within who those cells are.

Oh- and it's "its"- "it's" is a contraction for "it is".

So, apparently, YOU are NOT smarter than a THIRD grader.

So AGAIN- here is the BIOLOGICAL definition of "individual":

Biology .
a.
a single organism capable of *****independent existence*****.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/indivi...

Is a z/e/f capable of "independent existence"? NO.
Braxton

Vestaburg, MI

#220441 May 7, 2012
What a joke! Orange County Blues, Mpnf1979 and Lyndi spend their whole life on this thread! You three losers have not left this thread yet! Everyday you are on here. What does that say about the life you live? Pathetic, is what that says about each of your lives. You three really need to get out of your houses or trailers and enjoy life instead of spending it in front of a computer. You three really do represent Pro-Choicers all over the world. They have no life and therefore are very angry because of the pathetic humanbeings they have become. Because of this they have to take out their anger on unborn children by killing them. They can't understand that most people live very productive and fullfilling lives unlike their own. Their hate for themselves and their life flows into everything they believe. It truly is a sad situation pro-choicers are in. I hope everyone learns from the example of these three pro-choicers. Get out into the world. Meet people. Enjoy life and value it.
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220442 May 7, 2012
LightForce wrote:
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Now you've gone off into lala land. Please read before you reply next time, or at least try to reply without the bad attitude.
"Bad attitude"?

You mean like when YOU posted the following to ME?

"So, apparently you are NOT smarter than a fifth grader."

Let's see:

You don't know the difference between that which is human and that which is a person.

You don't know what supporting "choice" means.

And now you are proving that you don't know what a "bad attitude" means- at least not where YOU yourself are concerned.....

So I guess that means you don't know what "sense of entitlement" means either.

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#220443 May 7, 2012
mamma-san wrote:
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Not making enough money to support yourself, as well as a child, is illogical?
Wanting to wait 'til you're ready to be a mother is illogical?
Wanting your child to have a home with two parents is illogical?
Only to a man who can walk out on his child without a backwards glance.
By the way, your analogy is totally inappropriate.
Wanting to lay down with a man and spread your legs knowing you could get pregnant is illogical.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220444 May 7, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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It's no wonder your girlfriend dumped you and gave away your baby.
You're a moron.
I thought you would be out on you sailboat - translation: wooden raft with sheet/stick - today, and why all of the sudden are you being so nice to me?
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#220445 May 7, 2012
LightForce wrote:
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I thought you would be out on you sailboat - translation: wooden raft with sheet/stick - today, and why all of the sudden are you being so nice to me?
And I thought you'd have a job so the next time you procreate, you could afford to keep it.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220446 May 7, 2012
Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>A unique mass of cells is created.
Those cells are not INDIVIDUAL as they cannot live SEPARATE/APART from the body within who those cells are.
Oh- and it's "its"- "it's" is a contraction for "it is".
So, apparently, YOU are NOT smarter than a THIRD grader.
So AGAIN- here is the BIOLOGICAL definition of "individual":
Biology .
a.
a single organism capable of *****independent existence*****.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/indivi...
Is a z/e/f capable of "independent existence"? NO.
Try to imagine yourself living without air for two minutes. Ahah! You are not independent according to your definition are you?

I don't expect you to understand, but it's just for the benefit of those who are capable of "independent" thought, and who are also smarter than a fifth grader.
Lyndi

Sarasota, FL

#220447 May 7, 2012
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>Wanting to lay down with a man and spread your legs knowing you could get pregnant is illogical.
Crass little thing aren't you? Or is it coarse or slutty or poorly raised or bitchy or misogynistic or vulgar or perhaps all of the above?

I sure hope your ex husband landed himself a woman who speaks with some decency and doesn't bash her own gender like we're all just sty full of pigs.
I'm sorry you view making love to be so cheap. You must not have been very good at it.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220448 May 7, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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And I thought you'd have a job so the next time you procreate, you could afford to keep it.
Most of us learn from our mistakes, while others deny that they ever made a mistake, so never learn from it.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#220449 May 7, 2012
LightForce wrote:
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Most of us learn from our mistakes, while others deny that they ever made a mistake, so never learn from it.
It's not a mistake if you learn from it; we call that a lesson.
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220450 May 7, 2012
Life is Precious wrote:
<quoted text>Wanting to lay down with a man and spread your legs knowing you could get pregnant is illogical.
Which is exactly what YOU did as a TEENAGER.

I guess it was a very vulgar act for you since you use such a vulgar expression as "spread your legs".

You're disgusting.

Not to mention you seem to be saying that one should only engage in the normal, natural and what SHOULD be the BEAUTIFUL act of LOVEMAKING if one wants to get pregnant-like YOU did.

Nope- sex is not disgusting or vulgar, but YOU sure are.
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220451 May 7, 2012
LightForce wrote:
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Try to imagine yourself living without air for two minutes. Ahah! You are not independent according to your definition are you?
I don't expect you to understand, but it's just for the benefit of those who are capable of "independent" thought, and who are also smarter than a fifth grader.
OMG- but I am NOT dependent upon a HUMAN BEING for my air supply.....

You are not smarter than my CAT! Heh- you're not even AS smart as my CAT!
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220452 May 7, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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Crass little thing aren't you? Or is it coarse or slutty or poorly raised or bitchy or misogynistic or vulgar or perhaps all of the above?
I sure hope your ex husband landed himself a woman who speaks with some decency and doesn't bash her own gender like we're all just sty full of pigs.
I'm sorry you view making love to be so cheap. You must not have been very good at it.
It's all of the above. LIP is disgusting. And I'm sure that engaging in the act of love making is to her a disgusting chore and so much so, that's it nothing more than mechanical SEX- no passion, no thrill, no intimacy, no love at all when SHE "lays down with a man and 'spreads her legs'".
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220453 May 7, 2012
'.....that *it's* nothing more.......
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220454 May 7, 2012
Really -- SMDH wrote:
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It's not a mistake if you learn from it; we call that a lesson.
Exactly! I thought that was what I had said, but thank you for reaffirming my point.
Orange County blues

Kissimmee, FL

#220455 May 7, 2012
Lyndi wrote:
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Crass little thing aren't you? Or is it coarse or slutty or poorly raised or bitchy or misogynistic or vulgar or perhaps all of the above?
I sure hope your ex husband landed himself a woman who speaks with some decency and doesn't bash her own gender like we're all just sty full of pigs.
I'm sorry you view making love to be so cheap. You must not have been very good at it.
LIP hates herself. LIP is a female. The logical progression there is that since she hates herself and since she is a female, her hatred encompasses the entire female gender.

As HEINOUS as MALE misogynists are, they heinousness pales by comparison to those women who hate their own gender.

And LIP is one of those women.
LightForce

Warren, MI

#220456 May 7, 2012
Orange County blues wrote:
<quoted text>OMG- but I am NOT dependent upon a HUMAN BEING for my air supply.....
You are not smarter than my CAT! Heh- you're not even AS smart as my CAT!
That's called a "double standard". Look it up.

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