Why Should Jesus Love Me?

[kay]

seventies chick wrote:

((((HELLO)))) anyone here....

hey girl i was thinking of e-mail you. i do it later ok. i just want to ask how thing going for you and your family wink with smile

[hick-up]

AnnieJ wrote:

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Kay, you don't have to tell me why Ham is taking a break from here. I would like to know if he is okay health wise though. I worry about him lately...he has seemed so down. I've tried to cheer him up but I don't think that I made much progress.

Woman don't believe those lies! WE all ...all of us have gained so much since you joined us. Know I speak the truth ...
Witness anyone ...

[NorCal88]

LAWEST100 wrote:

<quoted text>Hey there Kay, how are you doing this blessed day?
Kay......we have a minor chaotic situation going on here that I hope can be resolved before it gets too far out of hand.
First of all I must respectfully disagree with you on your assessment of the situation between Que and LIP, you see I was there at the time that this was going on over on the abortion related thread.
LIP has shared with me some very horrendous and tragic details surrounding the circumstances of her miscarriage, which she has asked me not to reveal to anyone posting on the topix forums, and I have kept that to myself out of respect of our one time friendship.
But she is dead wrong in the way that she has read those statements from Que concerning the abortion issue, Que has never directly accused LIP of having sinned against her own body, he was pointing out that many women have done so by the likes of drugs alcohol poor nutritional habits and by simply not taking care of themselves correctly, and also because of the fall from grace by Adam, which is the true and ultimate cause of all things wrong on the earth today, but because she is understandbly so fragile to this subject.......she completely misunderstood what he was saying.
As for WMD, all he did was to speak the truth when he pointed out that we will not see any loved ones in the kingdom of God without becoming born again in Christ Jesus, and as a believer.....I'm sure that you know that this is true.
He said nothing that was a lie or an intended attempt to hurt anyone, and you and several others have misjudged him unfairly.
I hope that you take what I am saying in the spirit of Christian logve for which it was intended.
Peace and Blessings to you!

Were the statements hurtful? Yes so their is a need to apolagize, it's that simple and if you can't figure that out you have an issue.

[Life is Precious]

Texas Granny wrote:

<quoted text>As I said before, I was watching and reading on the abortion thread when all of this went down. I didn't post...mostly because I didn't want to get in the middle. None of you were trying to understand what the other was saying and nobody was being civil or nice. Sometimes that is the best place to get the true picture. Your emotions aren't a factor in your perception when you are on the sidelines observing. I am not taking anyone's side, and I didn't see anyone showing much love or understanding. There was clearly justifiable emotions as well as wrong behavior from both sides.
I would be hard pressed to find no hate in your heart after listening to you say you hope his life is hell and that he is a POS. Love wishes that on someone? If you don't hate him then you definitely hold grudges.....that will do you more harm than it will do him (spiritually). Jesus didn't play "don't get mad, just get even". That is an attribute of human nature, not God....Jesus showed how God would respond to mistreatment, false accusations, mean-spiritedness (not that I think that is what this situation is about), hateful words. He did not follow anyone around trying to open everyone's eyes so they could see how evil or phony they were and he will help each of us who follow him see the truth.
In the meantime, why make this thread unbearable with all this malice for the folks who like to celebrate Christ with others here? Can't you just let it go? Ignore him if he gets under your skin.....there are enough people here for you to celebrate with. It is a nice place when the nastiness is checked at the door.

Well if you had read ahead you will see that james(Que) did apologize to me this afternoon and I accepted it so I will let it go and I am sorry but when he was doing this I do feel he was a POS for saying this to me and MWD but it is over now and I do not hate him like I said.

And I do agree there are a lot of nice people here.some I have known since first posting on Topix.

I hope we can start all over and be friends. I am willing, are you?

God Bless and have a wonderful evening.

[NorCal88]

Texas Granny wrote:

<quoted text>As I said before, I was watching and reading on the abortion thread when all of this went down. I didn't post...mostly because I didn't want to get in the middle. None of you were trying to understand what the other was saying and nobody was being civil or nice. Sometimes that is the best place to get the true picture. Your emotions aren't a factor in your perception when you are on the sidelines observing. I am not taking anyone's side, and I didn't see anyone showing much love or understanding. There was clearly justifiable emotions as well as wrong behavior from both sides.
I would be hard pressed to find no hate in your heart after listening to you say you hope his life is hell and that he is a POS. Love wishes that on someone? If you don't hate him then you definitely hold grudges.....that will do you more harm than it will do him (spiritually). Jesus didn't play "don't get mad, just get even". That is an attribute of human nature, not God....Jesus showed how God would respond to mistreatment, false accusations, mean-spiritedness (not that I think that is what this situation is about), hateful words. He did not follow anyone around trying to open everyone's eyes so they could see how evil or phony they were and he will help each of us who follow him see the truth.
In the meantime, why make this thread unbearable with all this malice for the folks who like to celebrate Christ with others here? Can't you just let it go? Ignore him if he gets under your skin.....there are enough people here for you to celebrate with. It is a nice place when the nastiness is checked at the door.

TG, it has to be sorted out for peace to happen and Q is here to disrupt not make peace. You have read my posts and you know where i stand but in this case Q is in the wrong for making it personal. I have much respect for most of you here and i have seen you go after others for much less than what LIP has been through. V/R NC88

[Epiphany2]

Que Avanza wrote:

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LIP, While we will strongly disagree on the issue of miscarriage, I realize that what I said have caused you and others offense. I apologize and I hope that you will find room in your heart to forgive.

That's a good start....James

[Educator]

CBart95 wrote:

Educator. I need to share with you in e-mail. please contact me.See my profile page for my address...I don't have yours.
Bart

I clicked on your picture, but no mail there.
Sorry i am totally computer illiterate.
Does Osg have your email?
Is it a spiritual question?

[LAWEST100]

Texas Granny wrote:

<quoted text>Why? What is your purpose for making sure our eyes are opened? You want to make sure we hate him the same way you do?
You are correct that being Christian does not exempt us from suffering things. Jesus told us to expect it to get worse after we chose him. But here is the thing.....all the evil that you, me, MWD, and each and every person born suffer is the result of sin (either ours or someone elses- deliberate or unknowingly). It is the work (sin) of one man that brought all this suffering upon mankind...and it is the work of one man that saves us from its penalty. That was the point that he was trying to make. I never saw him try to lay it at your feet. True, he did not say it very well....but then not all of us have a gift of words. Some people just speak from the heart when they try to share what they believe and while they know what their words mean, to others it is not as clear. And some just like to take offense to every thing so they can use it to whip people with and keep the fight going...as opposed to trying to understand what the person means.
As for MWD, you say she has a loving heart who is struggling with her faith because of illness.....I can relate to that. Been there, done that, still living with it. Throwing the "F" bomb is not indicative of the picture you are trying to paint of her...as the Bible clearly says, "out of the mouth the heart is revealed". Nobody is responsible for her behavior but herself. She is the only one who chooses how she responds to things. Trying to blame anyone else is clearly layed out in the book of Jude....and identifies who is at the root of it.

BRAVO..........BRAVO.......... worthy of a RE-POST.

Think you TG for exposing the hypocrisy behind this whole thing.

God bless you my friend for being one of the very few to have such insight for what is going really on behind this!

[kay]

AnnieJ wrote:

<quoted text>
Kay, you don't have to tell me why Ham is taking a break from here. I would like to know if he is okay health wise though. I worry about him lately...he has seemed so down. I've tried to cheer him up but I don't think that I made much progress.

hi annie as you got eyes in this room you can easy smoke thing out i not sure of everything this time tell i here from him myself my heart say he is ok , only taking time out... i do wish he write me at time.. let keep our prayer up for him and his children also

__________

NORCAL pass your e-mail please to someone on the subj is Annie J smile at you both.

[Que Avanza]

Skombolis wrote:

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Hey LIP!
Many people believe babies including the unborn go to Heaven but there is nothing that I know of in the Bible that says that. There is a verse by King David about seeing his children again that is open to interpretation but in any event it would still be King David's opinion and it doesn't say what he is basing it on. Many people believe there is an age of accountability for being born-again. That say for an example, a five-year old child would not be expected to be born-again to be saved but there is nothing in the Bible about that. Same with the belief held by many that God makes somewhat different provisions for how someone accepts Him that may live in a remote area of the world and has never heard of Jesus Christ.
I personally believe these things also. But I am bring them up because I think it illustrates two things. As humans we will never fully understand everything there is to know about God and how He works. And secondly that one thing we do know is that God will be the only and final judge. I agree with you 100% that only God knows for certain if she will see her child again. Peace to you.

Hi Skombolis... as far as King David, He had it right... as you said, he knew he would see his child again so he stopped grieving when the child died... with his other son Absolom, who was grown and tried to overthrow his father, the anointed king, I'm not so sure he was that convinced that he would see him again:

I.

Matthew 18:3
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.(Jesus warned them to be like "little children"... for children will enter in)

II.

O my son, Absalom, my son, my son Absalom! Would I had died for you, O Absalom, my son, my son!(2 Samuel 18:33).

[Lifelover]

Hi Everyone...Back home from work and ther things done today.Should be reading back..right?

[kay]

NorCal88 wrote:

<quoted text>Were the statements hurtful? Yes so their is a need to apolagize, it's that simple and if you can't figure that out you have an issue.

hi nor 10-4 maybe a star- smile

[Lecter]

daytimedrama wrote:

Jesus is dead. He doesn't like or love you. He was nailed to a cross as a sacrifice in the name of god. Creepy religions...

Ma'am pardon me but no one really cares what you think. This is a christian thread. If you don't like the religion. Too bad because It's not going to change anything.

[kay]

Epiphany2 wrote:

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That's a good start....James

yes it is a start E2 and let see he can work on it and try to do better all i can keep a eye open and watch ,,, ok.

[LAWEST100]

Texas Granny wrote:

<quoted text>As I said before, I was watching and reading on the abortion thread when all of this went down. I didn't post...mostly because I didn't want to get in the middle. None of you were trying to understand what the other was saying and nobody was being civil or nice. Sometimes that is the best place to get the true picture. Your emotions aren't a factor in your perception when you are on the sidelines observing. I am not taking anyone's side, and I didn't see anyone showing much love or understanding. There was clearly justifiable emotions as well as wrong behavior from both sides.
I would be hard pressed to find no hate in your heart after listening to you say you hope his life is hell and that he is a POS. Love wishes that on someone? If you don't hate him then you definitely hold grudges.....that will do you more harm than it will do him (spiritually). Jesus didn't play "don't get mad, just get even". That is an attribute of human nature, not God....Jesus showed how God would respond to mistreatment, false accusations, mean-spiritedness (not that I think that is what this situation is about), hateful words. He did not follow anyone around trying to open everyone's eyes so they could see how evil or phony they were and he will help each of us who follow him see the truth.
In the meantime, why make this thread unbearable with all this malice for the folks who like to celebrate Christ with others here? Can't you just let it go? Ignore him if he gets under your skin.....there are enough people here for you to celebrate with. It is a nice place when the nastiness is checked at the door.

Again TG, well said and very true.

Like you said, neither side were displaying much love during thst time, and whatever I may have said to contributed to the chaos, I sincerely apologize for.

Peace and Blessings!

[kay]

Lifelover wrote:

Hi Everyone...Back home from work and ther things done today.Should be reading back..right?

hi LL glad to see you. smile

[Texas Granny]

LAWEST100 wrote:

<quoted text>Hey there Kay, how are you doing this blessed day?
Kay......we have a minor chaotic situation going on here that I hope can be resolved before it gets too far out of hand.
First of all I must respectfully disagree with you on your assessment of the situation between Que and LIP, you see I was there at the time that this was going on over on the abortion related thread.
LIP has shared with me some very horrendous and tragic details surrounding the circumstances of her miscarriage, which she has asked me not to reveal to anyone posting on the topix forums, and I have kept that to myself out of respect of our one time friendship.
But she is dead wrong in the way that she has read those statements from Que concerning the abortion issue, Que has never directly accused LIP of having sinned against her own body, he was pointing out that many women have done so by the likes of drugs alcohol poor nutritional habits and by simply not taking care of themselves correctly, and also because of the fall from grace by Adam, which is the true and ultimate cause of all things wrong on the earth today, but because she is understandbly so fragile to this subject.......she completely misunderstood what he was saying.
As for WMD, all he did was to speak the truth when he pointed out that we will not see any loved ones in the kingdom of God without becoming born again in Christ Jesus, and as a believer.....I'm sure that you know that this is true.
He said nothing that was a lie or an intended attempt to hurt anyone, and you and several others have misjudged him unfairly.
I hope that you take what I am saying in the spirit of Christian logve for which it was intended.
Peace and Blessings to you!

That was the way I read the whole thing too......misunderstood words; sensative, fragile emotions; and a bit of poor timing because of not recognizing people were still in pain from their experiences. And of course, one very effective "flame stoker" throwing fuel on the fire. LIP was probably the nicest of the girls in the way she responded, but she was still reading his words through her own pain. I also thought SF was trying to comfort them....

[Lifelover]

kay wrote:

<quoted text> you the fool one why we know you have change above your state

Hi Kay, Thankyou for saying this to:SPAZ ALERT...They thought they were soo cute stalking me being rude to me and making a cruel remark about the Blessed Little Angels[special children].Takes alot of nerve.How are you sis,,Just getting back

[Texas Granny]

LAWEST100 wrote:

<quoted text>BRAVO..........BRAVO.. ........worthy of a RE-POST.
Think you TG for exposing the hypocrisy behind this whole thing.
God bless you my friend for being one of the very few to have such insight for what is going really on behind this!

Sorry, Lawest100, but I wasn't trying to expose anything. Just trying to share how it appeared to someone who was not personally involved one way or the other.

[LAWEST100]

Life is Precious wrote:

<quoted text>I have NO hate in my heart for anyone. You do not know some of the history but thats okay,you don't have to know it. God Bless

Sorry LIP, but it's not about her knowing some of the past history.

It's about the spirit of God within you, which empowers you to forgive the person that you felt trepassed against you and not holding on to bitter grudge's.

That was TG's point to you, but you have said that it is over and done with, and I hope that turns out to be the truth!