Why Should Jesus Love Me?

[Thumper]

Red Apples wrote:

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John 4:25-26.
25The woman saith unto him, I KNOW THAT MESSIAS COMETH, WHICH IS CALLED CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26JESUS SAITH UNTO HER, I THAT SPEAK UNTO THEE AM HE.

He never said he got his stuff from the Bible. I guess he can say whatever he wants. It's good to see you in plain form brother.

[Truths]

Ham wrote:

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Hi Dawn..
I have had a pretty good day..An awesome sermon this morning..Nice time with family and friends at lunch..Sammy was there..Her new born is 16 pounds and less than two months old..She is surprised but pleased..Boyfriend has yet to make a commitment..I feel like talking with him..He doesn't know what he is missing..JMO..
Packers lost..Pretty good game thou ..the first victory of the season for the Bucs..Their rookie QB was sensational in his first start..
Spent some time preparing for my Bible Study tomorrow night on the book of James..I am enjoying this study..Remember I am in 4 Bible Studies..I hope I don't become overwhelmed..
I understand your feelings about Micah..I went thru essentially the same ordeal..The man whom I had considered my friend devastated me.."Sleazy SOB" comes to mind..I dunno..Maybe Micah becomes frustrated at times and lashes out..I hope that is involved..I can't imagine anyone not wanting to chat with you..You are much more lively and interesting than myself. So, I can understand why most people don't talk with me..Living alone with a cat doesn't enhance my sparkling personality any either..
So, don't fret too much over Micah..I know it hurts..Maybe that is just part of life..We can't please everybody..Don't be afraid to share your feelings thou..It is risky, I know, but I think it will help you relieve the stress..
I hope your day will be a good one..Remember we shouldn't judge the day until it is over..
Now I am rambling..
Ham

I loooooove what you call rambling (c:
It's a visit with a dear friend sitting on a bench on a warm sunny day~

Love to listen to ya' Ham.
Excellent post!

XO deb~

[Lost In Transition]

Open Your Eyes wrote:

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So true.
Good night, LIT.
:)

Good night, OYE.
:-)

[Que Avanza]

micah wrote:

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Jesus was born a Jew and was a devout follower of Judaism and all that the Tankah and Mishnah embraced. Jesus never rejected the teachings and the body of beliefs that constitute Judaism. Jesus was apparently bothered by some of the practices and people that *_surrounded_* Judaism and the Temples. He was offended by those who sought to manipulate people's approaches to God, and to profit from their Temple activities and experience. Jesus did NOT revolt against or reject Judaism. It was the peripheral people and practices the Jesus found annoying and sought to change.
There was no talk of miracles or a virgin birth among the early followers of this special man. Jesus NEVER claimed to be the son of God or God. micah

The Law is Good. The problem is is that they nor we could keep all its righteous statutes. Only Jesus did that. Jesus was the summation of the Law and the Prophets. When He died on the cross... Having fulfilled the Law it was also nailed with Him removing it out of the way making way for the New Testament (Colossians 2:14). But Concerning the Son of God:

"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58 NIV

"what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said,'I am God's Son'?" John 10:36 NIV

"Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!" Proverbs 30:4 NIV

[Lost In Transition]

Open Your Eyes wrote:

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I believe there are angels sent to "serve" us, but do not know exactly how that is defined other than protection, bringing things to our attention, and evading evil. But they do not "guide" me. The Spirit of Jesus who lives in me is my guide. The angels do not direct me. I direct them by the Spirit of God through prayer.

If the angels are not of our form, could they truly understand what we need, or how best to influence us to any end? I can see you are still working on their role, so I won't push that. Do you believe the spirit is an entity of it's own, or part of the trinity?

[Que Avanza]

micah wrote:

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Jesus loves me because I share the truth with those who revere Paul's puppet, Jesus Christ, and ignore the beautiful man Jesus.
There is NO WORD OF GOD that specifically condemns abortion.
Jesus *_never_* spoke out against abortion.
I do not personally know a single soul who believes abortion is a good thing.
I personally believe that an abortion is a medical procedure that at times is deemed necessary for a variety of possible reasons.
During the time when Jesus reputedly walked this earth, a woman was often condemned for a variety of violations of "laws" or social norms. An unmarried woman who became pregnant may have been able to conceal the fact for five months or more. Once she began to "show" she was apt to be judged by her peers and doomed to be stoned to death.
There was no effort to save the fetus. They willingly killed the fetus as well as the mother, often with self-righteous zeal. This was the accepted social behavior, the right and just act of a society, the society of Jesus. He made no known comment.
Abortion has been a part of life since life began. Jesus never spoke out against abortion.
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micah

Jesus spoke out against murders (plural)... Some people say abortion is not murder because it is currently legal. What was it called when it was illegally performed in hospitals before 1973? Abortion was morally wrong before 1973 and is morally wrong today. Abortion was illegal killing of an unborn child before 1973 and now it is legal to kill an unborn child at a certain gestation. So yes, abortion is murder and Jesus spoke against it.
"For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, MURDERS, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies." Matthew 15:19 AKJV
http://www.biblestudytools.com/Lexicons/Greek...

[Thumper]

Open Your Eyes wrote:

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That reminds me of the verse,
"Faith without works is dead".
Not sure where it is.

What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them,“Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
But someone may well say,“You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Scripture was fulfilled which says,“AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead James 2:14-26

If you take the time to understand what's being emphasized here. You'll no doubt see that faith "true faith" is what's being talked about here. The apostle is saying that true faith PRODUCES good work. He is not saying that we must work for our anything.

[Red Apples]

AnnieJ wrote:

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RA....Galatians 5:4 speaks of falling from grace...
Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Galatians 5:4 "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."

That's talking about people that are trying to justify their salvation by the law and not by grace. We are saved by grace not by the law. Jesus Christ came to and did fulfill the laws and the profits.

That's saying when people try to justify their salvation by "the law" than Christ is become of no effect to them. Because they are rejecting salvation through grace and trying to attain their salvation through the law.

Another words they are saying they don't need Christ because they have "the law" (aka the Jews and non-believers in Christ). And in doing so they are rejecting salvation through Christ and trying to attain it through "the law".

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Que Avanza wrote:

<quoted text>Jesus spoke out against murders (plural)... Some people say abortion is not murder because it is currently legal. What was it called when it was illegally performed in hospitals before 1973? Abortion was morally wrong before 1973 and is morally wrong today. Abortion was illegal killing of an unborn child before 1973 and now it is legal to kill an unborn child at a certain gestation. So yes, abortion is murder and Jesus spoke against it.
"For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, MURDERS, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies." Matthew 15:19 AKJV
http://www.biblestudytools.com/Lexicons/Greek...

Well said Que and very true.

And that link should prove very helpful to those who are interested in learning the more of the truth on these subjects of abortion/murder!

[Red Apples]

Time to call it a night. God bless.

[Que Avanza]

Lost In Transition wrote:

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If the angels are not of our form, could they truly understand what we need, or how best to influence us to any end? I can see you are still working on their role, so I won't push that. Do you believe the spirit is an entity of it's own, or part of the trinity?

They are one in the same just as we are Body, Soul and Spirit but yet one.

Is it possible to refer to yourself in the 2nd and 3rd person? Of course they will say you're crazy... but is it possible? With God, all things are possible.

[micah]

Que Avanza wrote:

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"25The woman said,“I know that Messiah”(called Christ)“is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
26Then Jesus declared,“I who speak to you am he.”
John 4:25-26

What is the source of that story ??

How did John obtain those quotes ??

micah

[Thumper]

I meant to say that the verse is not saying that we must work for anything. He's not saying that we must work for our Salvation. He's giving us a way to recognize true faith as opposed to fake faith. It has nothing to do with work.

[Que Avanza]

Got to go Folks! Take care. Thanks for being patient with my long posts.

[Que Avanza]

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

[micah]

Que Avanza wrote:

<quoted text>The Law is Good. The problem is is that they nor we could keep all its righteous statutes. Only Jesus did that. Jesus was the summation of the Law and the Prophets. When He died on the cross... Having fulfilled the Law it was also nailed with Him removing it out of the way making way for the New Testament (Colossians 2:14). But Concerning the Son of God:
"I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" John 8:58 NIV
"what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said,'I am God's Son'?" John 10:36 NIV
"Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!" Proverbs 30:4 NIV

You are not quoting the Bible, you are quoting from the New Testament.

micah

[Que Avanza]

By the way, I almost forgot... if there is anyone, Brother or Sister... doesn't matter... and you are suffering from abortion regret - God truly loves you and wants you to be completely healed. Please do not hesitate to run to Him. Here are some starters:

http://www.abortionrecoveryinternational.org/

www.abortionfacts.com

[micah]

Red Apples wrote:

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John 4:25-26.
25The woman saith unto him, I KNOW THAT MESSIAS COMETH, WHICH IS CALLED CHRIST: when he is come, he will tell us all things.
26JESUS SAITH UNTO HER, I THAT SPEAK UNTO THEE AM HE.

That is hearsay at best. Where did John get that story ??

micah

[Lost In Transition]

Thumper wrote:

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What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him?If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, and one of you says to them,“Go in peace, be warmed and be filled,” and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.
But someone may well say,“You have faith and I have works; show me your faith without the works, and I will show you my faith by my works.” You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder. But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up Isaac his son on the altar? You see that faith was working with his works, and as a result of the works, faith was perfected; and the Scripture was fulfilled which says,“AND ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD, AND IT WAS RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS,” and he was called the friend of God. You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone. In the same way, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead James 2:14-26
If you take the time to understand what's being emphasized here. You'll no doubt see that faith "true faith" is what's being talked about here. The apostle is saying that true faith PRODUCES good work. He is not saying that we must work for our anything.

You're right, faith is being discussed in as much as it is impotent without works.
The proverbial "Talk is cheap".

[Lost In Transition]

Thumper wrote:

I meant to say that the verse is not saying that we must work for anything. He's not saying that we must work for our Salvation. He's giving us a way to recognize true faith as opposed to fake faith. It has nothing to do with work.

Not true. He is stating that works is the deciding factor in the judgement of ones faith.