Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623518 Feb 20, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
I found something a bit disturbing in a comment on here the other day. Can’t remember who said it (My apologies) so I can’t link to it. The comment said something about the amount of times someone types “I“, show’s selfishness/self-involvement. Yes I am paraphrasing, that is simply the general meaning I took from the post. The problem I have with it is that in my opinion, we as the individual need to own what we say/type.
A.L.(poster Annaleigh) took offense to "former transsexual" Sy Rogers using the "I" word on his website.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#623519 Feb 20, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

A. You created your faith.
B. Men created the Bible.
=
C. Your statement clearly shoes that you are a follower of men.
Why can't you be honest with me, others, and yourself?
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text> ???
Simple. Because she does not see it your way.
A. God gave her the Faith.
B. An all powerful God inspired God's creation human to write what God wanted humans to know about God and God is powerful enough to control history as to what books God deemed as authentic where we get the bible.
=
C. She believes God is all powerful all knowing and all present and follows God.
Why can't you admit to yourself and others that your lack of faith is your problem and is between you and God and not the problem of topix Christians?
"A. God gave her the Faith."
- Faith is learned.

"B. An all powerful God inspired God's creation human to write what God wanted humans to know about God and God is powerful enough to control history as to what books God deemed as authentic where we get the bible."
- and then "He" stopped inspiring people......as there are no other texts allowed to be "from God" than what is already written.
- Why do you limit "God".
- Please post where "God" specifically states which texts are of "His inspiration" and which are not.
- Why do you accept "Paul's forged" texts over non-canonical teachings by Jesus?

"C. She believes God is all powerful all knowing and all present and follows God.
Why can't you admit to yourself and others that your lack of faith is your problem and is between you and God and not the problem of topix Christians?"
- That is right - "she believes" - a chosen action by herself - or more accurately - Self.
- I don't have a lack of "faith" - sop please stop projecting what you want me to believe. It just isn't true.

We'll see how honest either of you are.....your response to this post will tell alot.

Well, that would be if you even respond.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#623520 Feb 20, 2014
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>A.L.(poster Annaleigh) took offense to "former transsexual" Sy Rogers using the "I" word on his website.
I watched the video, thank you for posting it. He is one that owns what he says in my opinion. The reason that I say that? They also provided links in his video to non-Christian medical websites for a better understanding of human sexuality. Many Christians feel that they have no one to talk to when it comes to understanding what they are going through as they develop sexually other than their peers. Sy is walking his own path and I respect him for that and the doors he is opening to understanding.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623521 Feb 20, 2014
Annaleigh wrote:
<quoted text>
Identical Twins' Genes Are Not Identical
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ide...
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Identical twins need never be tried for same crime after DNA breakthrough
Cases of identical twins being tried for the same crime may never happen again after a scientific breakthrough found there are subtle differences in their DNA
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-ne...
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Identical Twins Are Not Genetically Identical
The results, which were presented by McGill University epidemiologist Rui Li, could have drastic consequences for what we know about the heritability of diseases, addictions, personality and intelligence—or what is more popularly known as the nature versus nurture debate.
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-super...
In the case of the twins who were arrested... did the prosecution use the so-called new technology to convict one of the twins?

The only reason they excluded one of the twins was because his cell phone was pinged at another location at the time of the incident. They didn't use the test because the so-called discovery hasn't been proven... it's a theory.

It's not hard to figure out... identical twins came from the same sperm/egg combination (blastocyst) that split into two individual blastocysts. So obviously they are going to have the same dna markers.

“Life Force One”

Since: Jul 07

The Spiritual Universe/God

#623523 Feb 20, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
I found something a bit disturbing in a comment on here the other day. Can’t remember who said it (My apologies) so I can’t link to it

The comment said something about the amount of times someone types “I“, show’s selfishness/self-involvement.

Yes I am paraphrasing, that is simply the general meaning I took from the post. The problem I have with it is that in my opinion, we as the individual need to own what we say/type. It is much more difficult to say (As an example, sorry no disrespect to vegetarians‘)“I think that vegetarians are all sickly”… than….“Vegetarians are all sickly” <<hands up in a placating manner>> No I don’t think that, just trying to pick a less volatile of a group example than a particular belief or non belief ;). This link was given to me by a (back then) regular poster in 09, so that I could gather information at my own pace:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/
I still reference this site for information and find it to be very helpful in understanding other’s view points. When I first started posting here (In topix) it was common to read a lot of open and honest discussion’s, due to several regular posters wanting to grow and expand when it comes their own knowledge and understanding when it comes to the belief’s/opinions of others. They were also willing to take the time to respond in a way that would help others understand their own beliefs and view points better. If we only login to topix so that we/I can smack at others, or simply in an attempt to prove that we are right in what we as the individual believe/think….there is no true “personal” gain from it (IMO), unless our general goal in life is to irritate and/or belittle others. Simply my thoughts.
I hope everyone is having a wonderful day….hey, those of you in the Southern states….Mind sending some of your weather towards Michigan? It’s a bit nasty up here ;)
You typed "I" 13 times.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#623524 Feb 20, 2014
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Same difference.
Can a person be born a male... transexualize/transgenderize into a female, be attracted to girls and call themselves a lesbian?
All part of the same LesbianGayBiTransQueer/Questio ning community that feed off each other.
It is not the same difference.

I don’t understand the question. I don’t understand the point of the question. I don’t understand the fixation. Unless you are personally dealing with sexual identity issues.

Please…please, take the time to watch the video you yourself posted and follow the links.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#623525 Feb 20, 2014
Seentheotherside wrote:
<quoted text>
You typed "I" 13 times.
LOL…I was waiting for it ;) Thank you for not disappointing me Seen. Did you see any kind of point to my post? That is what is most telling to me.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#623526 Feb 20, 2014
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>In the case of the twins who were arrested... did the prosecution use the so-called new technology to convict one of the twins?
The only reason they excluded one of the twins was because his cell phone was pinged at another location at the time of the incident. They didn't use the test because the so-called discovery hasn't been proven... it's a theory.
It's not hard to figure out... identical twins came from the same sperm/egg combination (blastocyst) that split into two individual blastocysts. So obviously they are going to have the same dna markers.
Identical twins do not have the same DNA nor do they have the same finger prints….slight variations, this is a known fact.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#623527 Feb 20, 2014
The differences between male and female biologically are not black and white. Psychologically even more ambiguous.

The notion that "If you were born with a penis (or not) you are male (or female) and must act and think a particular way" are antiquated and erroneous ideas that should be relegated to the trash bin with "Flat Earth" and "Man will never fly" nonsense.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#623528 Feb 20, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:
A. You created your faith.
B. Men created the Bible.
=
C. Your statement clearly shoes that you are a follower of men.
Why can't you be honest with me, others, and yourself?
<quoted text>
"A. God gave her the Faith."
- Faith is learned.
"B. An all powerful God inspired God's creation human to write what God wanted humans to know about God and God is powerful enough to control history as to what books God deemed as authentic where we get the bible."
- and then "He" stopped inspiring people......as there are no other texts allowed to be "from God" than what is already written.
- Why do you limit "God".
- Please post where "God" specifically states which texts are of "His inspiration" and which are not.
- Why do you accept "Paul's forged" texts over non-canonical teachings by Jesus?
"C. She believes God is all powerful all knowing and all present and follows God.
Why can't you admit to yourself and others that your lack of faith is your problem and is between you and God and not the problem of topix Christians?"
- That is right - "she believes" - a chosen action by herself - or more accurately - Self.
- I don't have a lack of "faith" - sop please stop projecting what you want me to believe. It just isn't true.
We'll see how honest either of you are.....your response to this post will tell alot.
Well, that would be if you even respond.
A. God gave the Faith. Not all faith is learned, some are given by Yahweh God.

1. It's your opinion God no longer inspires.
2- I don't limit God.
3-God don't have to specifically write which are his inspired texts and which are not. God controls History. And the books that made it into the bible are God's inspired text and the books that are not God did not allow in the bible.
4-Paul is only one of many authors God used and inspired. No different than Jeremiah or David or Nehemiah.

Well you do lack faith. You lack faith in a all powerful all present all knowing God. If you did not, you would not be questioning which books made it into the bible.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#623529 Feb 20, 2014
Yep...worded that last comment *all* kind's of wrong, call me on it and I will agree. They do have the same DNA...but that does not mean they are not different.

Because the genetic blueprints of identical twins are the same, you might expect them to have a lot in common – and they do.

They are as identical as human clones would be. But are identical twins completely identical?

Identical twins are genetically the same, but the laws of genetics don’t completely determine your physical appearance. The prints of identical twins are more alike than the prints of two completely unrelated people. Still, they’re not identical.

Each one of us started out as a fertilized egg. In the case of identical twins, two people arose from the same egg. After the egg was fertilized, it split in two – so identical twins are the same sex. They often have nearly the same height, weight and hair color. But look closer, and you’ll find differences in twins. Common differences revolve around features like birthmarks, moles, hair patterns and teeth development. Look below the skin, and you’ll find even bigger differences in their personalities.

For centuries, scientists have debated whether we are the way we are because of our nature – that is, our biological heritage – or because of the environment in which we were raised? The “nature vs. nurture” debate often revolves around studies of identical twins. Because they share the same genetic blueprint, differences in how twins turn out should be due – at least in part – to differences in their environments. Likewise, their similarities might be due to their shared genetic makeup.

One of the best-known twin studies began in Louisville, Kentucky in 1957 and continues to this day. Researchers there have collected detailed physical and psychological information on hundreds of pairs of identical twins from birth to adulthood. Twin studies such as this suggest that our genetic blueprints do play a large role in alcoholism, reading disorders and susceptibility to disease. Likewise, a Swedish twin study is finding strong evidence that genetics affects how long we live. And twin studies are finding genetic links to obesity, baldness, personality, and intelligence.

But genetics isn’t everything. For example, scientists don’t think your genetic makeup makes you more or less likely to use tobacco on a regular basis.

Taken from:
http://earthsky.org/human-world/identical-twi...

“Peace”

Since: Feb 08

Earth

#623530 Feb 20, 2014
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Same difference.
Can a person be born a male... transexualize/transgenderize into a female, be attracted to girls and call themselves a lesbian?
All part of the same LesbianGayBiTransQueer/Questio ning community that feed off each other.
As with any intelligent debate, please answer the questions put forth before you change the subject, asking different questions. If not, it seems like you are avoiding parts you don’t wish debate.
If so, simply say that you don’t wish to debate on peer reviewed scientific studies that go against your belief.

Below are the questions and links so you can read the whole post if needed.
Thank you

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Why do you believe it to be a psychological issue due to gender confusion.

There are over 100 studies that show transsexuality to be biological in nature.
Here are just a few examples.
-
-

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Given all this information, or the opportunity to learn about, how can you say "A Transsexual person is obviously not the same as a person with a "physical" genetic condition".?

How can you as a Christian, engage in the type of activity that breeds hatred, suffering, and death for transsexual people as is demonstrated in the articles I posted about Jamaica?

Do you even have any clear evidence from the Bible that to do so is justified?
Please share it with us, if you do.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623531 Feb 20, 2014
Annaleigh wrote:
<quoted text>
As a Christian, what proof do you have to back up the comment, as you are placing it in public.
does this mean that anyone who publishes findings from studies and research that goes against your personal beliefs is pro-LGBT and their research is completely dismissive?
Professor Vincent Harley PhD
Head, Sex Determination & Gonadal Development
Co-Head, Brain and Gender
t:+61 3 9594 3244
e: vincent.harley[at]princehenrys .org
Appointments
NHMRC Senior Research Fellow
Adjunct Professor; Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology & Department of Anatomy and Cell Biology, Monash University
Honorary Senior Fellow, Department of Genetics & Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, University of Melbourne
Profile
Professor Harley held positions in the UK (Imperial Cancer Research Fund Laboratories, London, and Department of Genetics at Cambridge University) and at the Howard Florey Institute in Melbourne before joining PHI in 2000.
Research Interests
His research focuses on transcription factors and their role in health and disease, with a particular focus on sex determining genes SOX9 and SRY. His research on sex determination and intersex conditions has generated considerable interest in the scientific and wider communities.
Expertise
Human genetics, sex differentiation and sex determination, organ development
Current Research
ATR-X syndrome & gonadal development
Genetic mechanisms underlying hypospadias
Identification of novel genes required for gonadal development
SOX9, Fgfr2 & testis development
Discovering new genes causing disorders of sex development
Wnt/&#946;-catenin, SOX signaling & sex determination
Genetics of gender identity
Cognitive effects of SRY inhibition in the brain
Role of the male-specific gene SRY in Parkinson's disease
Sexual dimorphisms in neurological disorders
Recent Achievments
2010-2014, NHMRC Program Grant, Program of Sexual Development
2005-2009, NHMRC Program Grant
2005 - Participated in an international consensus conference to review the management of intersex disorders and to implement genetic advances in the care of intersex patients, the first step being to update the nomenclature of intersexuality.
2004 - Recipient of the US Endocrine Society Quest Diagnostics Young Investigator Travel Grant Award
2003 - Recipient of an Eli Lily Endocrinology Research Grant and a Diabetes Australia Research and Training Grant
2001 - Awarded NHMRC Senior Research Fellowship
Service to the Scientific Community
Editorial Boards of the journals Molecular Endocrinology, International Journal of Biochemistry and Cell Biology and Sexual Development.
http://www.princehenrys.org/prof-vincent-harl...
Their are many books that Vincent Co-author... but the SRY and SOX9 chromosomes has been his major points of interests... go down to the bottom of the page in the link to see his authorships/co-authorships

"2001: Vincent Harley being a co-author

Compound effects of point mutations causing campomelic dysplasia/autosomal SEX REVERSAL upon SOX9 structure, nuclear transport, DNA binding and transcriptional activation

The Journal of biological chemistry 2001;276(30):27865-72

http://www.biomedexperts.com/Profile.bme/5320...

Sex reversal??? 2001???

*******

Obviously, in your own post it talks about his 2001 role in:

"Editorial Boards of the journals Molecular Endocrinology, International Journal of Biochemistry and Cell Biology and SEXUAL Development."

Also, when I stated that he's been studying the subject "for ages"... it's just a figure of speech. But I know your motives aren't entirely pure as you are doing your best to make attempts justify the LGBT lifestyle.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623532 Feb 20, 2014
NoStress4me wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not the same difference.
I don’t understand the question. I don’t understand the point of the question. I don’t understand the fixation. Unless you are personally dealing with sexual identity issues.
Please…please, take the time to watch the video you yourself posted and follow the links.
If a person is talking about lesbian, transgender/transsexual and attraction issues then normally they are talking about sexual identity issues....

Which exact video are you referring to? I posted many videos on the LGBT matter.

“Peace”

Since: Feb 08

Earth

#623533 Feb 20, 2014
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>A.L.(poster Annaleigh) took offense to "former transsexual" Sy Rogers using the "I" word on his website.
I did not take offense, I believe i stated over and over that people are on their own path, ant that is his path...

I did state that on his website he places allot of importance on "I" , he has a large EGO.

Can you carry on a respectful debate?

You have been avoiding the questions i ask, pertaining to the information i posted on the subject , and now you are claiming something that is not true.

Are you or are you not representing your Christ?

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623534 Feb 20, 2014
Annaleigh wrote:
<quoted text>
As with any intelligent debate, please answer the questions put forth before you change the subject, asking different questions. If not, it seems like you are avoiding parts you don’t wish debate.
If so, simply say that you don’t wish to debate on peer reviewed scientific studies that go against your belief.
Below are the questions and links so you can read the whole post if needed.
Thank you
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Why do you believe it to be a psychological issue due to gender confusion.
There are over 100 studies that show transsexuality to be biological in nature.
Here are just a few examples.
-
-
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Given all this information, or the opportunity to learn about, how can you say "A Transsexual person is obviously not the same as a person with a "physical" genetic condition".?
How can you as a Christian, engage in the type of activity that breeds hatred, suffering, and death for transsexual people as is demonstrated in the articles I posted about Jamaica?
Do you even have any clear evidence from the Bible that to do so is justified?
Please share it with us, if you do.
As with any intelligent debate, please answer my question first and then perhaps I will answer your question.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623535 Feb 20, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Here, from your same "scientific" source:
"Did our Creator 'encode' a
cancer cure
on the 859th page of an ancient Bible?
Oncologists stunned!'Untreatable' late-stage cancers disappear in weeks... ZERO painful side effects...."
I didn't see that on there but when I copied and pasted your post to a search engine... it appears to be a simple "pop-up" advertisement." You know what those are, right?

“Peace”

Since: Feb 08

Earth

#623536 Feb 20, 2014
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>Their are many books that Vincent Co-author... but the SRY and SOX9 chromosomes has been his major points of interests... go down to the bottom of the page in the link to see his authorships/co-authorships
"2001: Vincent Harley being a co-author
Compound effects of point mutations causing campomelic dysplasia/autosomal SEX REVERSAL upon SOX9 structure, nuclear transport, DNA binding and transcriptional activation
The Journal of biological chemistry 2001;276(30):27865-72
http://www.biomedexperts.com/Profile.bme/5320...
Sex reversal??? 2001???
*******
Obviously, in your own post it talks about his 2001 role in:
"Editorial Boards of the journals Molecular Endocrinology, International Journal of Biochemistry and Cell Biology and SEXUAL Development."
Also, when I stated that he's been studying the subject "for ages"... it's just a figure of speech. But I know your motives aren't entirely pure as you are doing your best to make attempts justify the LGBT lifestyle.
You are still avoiding the original question
“does this mean that anyone who publishes findings from studies and research that goes against your personal beliefs is pro-LGBT and their research is completely dismissive?”

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Aura Mytha wrote: <quoted text>
"A Transsexual person is obviously not the same as a person with a "physical" genetic condition"
You have absolutely no way to qualify that statement, and even if you could you have absolutely no right to infringe on that persons Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
But because a link had not been identified, it was your belief that it didn't exist.
Same as your belief that other thing "do" exist, but you must consider you maybe wrong.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/...
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Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>
As far as the so-called study goes... it is pro-lgbt study as the associate professor have been trying to find a transsexual genetic trait for ages. And where are the peer reviews? But there is plenty of evidence that transsexual issues stems from psychosis.
*******
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Annaleigh wrote:
<quoted text>
As a Christian, what proof do you have to back up the comment, as you are placing it in public.
does this mean that anyone who publishes findings from studies and research that goes against your personal beliefs is pro-LGBT and their research is completely dismissive?

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623537 Feb 20, 2014
Annaleigh wrote:
<quoted text>
As with any intelligent debate, please answer the questions put forth before you change the subject, asking different questions. If not, it seems like you are avoiding parts you don’t wish debate.
If so, simply say that you don’t wish to debate on peer reviewed scientific studies that go against your belief.
Below are the questions and links so you can read the whole post if needed.
Thank you
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Why do you believe it to be a psychological issue due to gender confusion.
There are over 100 studies that show transsexuality to be biological in nature.
Here are just a few examples.
-
-
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Given all this information, or the opportunity to learn about, how can you say "A Transsexual person is obviously not the same as a person with a "physical" genetic condition".?
How can you as a Christian, engage in the type of activity that breeds hatred, suffering, and death for transsexual people as is demonstrated in the articles I posted about Jamaica?
Do you even have any clear evidence from the Bible that to do so is justified?
Please share it with us, if you do.
And by the way, I did answer your questions. They were simple answers. They just weren't to your liking.

“Runner John Green disqualified”

Since: Aug 12

4 Bible Scripture on headband

#623538 Feb 20, 2014
Annaleigh wrote:
<quoted text> I did not take offense, I believe i stated over and over that people are on their own path, ant that is his path...
I did state that on his website he places allot of importance on "I" , he has a large EGO.
Can you carry on a respectful debate?
You have been avoiding the questions i ask, pertaining to the information i posted on the subject , and now you are claiming something that is not true.
Are you or are you not representing your Christ?
You're not fooling me AL.... I know that you're hostile to the Christian faith and it is the undercurrent to your questions. I've recently read your past 2008 posts with Junker (Annie).... so I already know. Just come out with it.

And I know that you're TS as you have stated in 2008.

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