I understand Luci...I have been there.<quoted text>
Great passage choice Annie and I agree with the sentiment, somewhat.
Humanity could indeed do much more and much better.
I agree with almost everything you've said and like having these philosophical conversations, however, I would reach out without hands, that's just me though.
One thing I will add is this, the religion that has oppressed, murdered, judged, beaten, discriminated, abused and lied to people, amongst many other atrocities, deserves nothing but judgement.
They are still doing it this very day. This here topix is an entertainment break and I owe nothing to those who treated me very differently when I left christianity behind, it's ok though because I expect no better behavior from the religious and it proves my point.
Presently they like to attack Atheism, between bouts of pretending they give a damn about following anything the jesus! teaches.
As you know, I grew up with cults/catholicism/paganism/etc , a childhood that would make any rational person become an Atheist the second a personal choice is available. Then the jesus! character got to me and I believed in him and got booted from christian churches for asking questions and treated like a crazy person by so called 'family', I wasn't even that verbal at the time, I wasn't much of anything, I was broken from my abusive marriage, that's how they conned me, I was vulnerable, boy were they all surprised when I remembered who I was.
A christian clan I loved and trusted, spent 6 years enabling the man's abusive behavior towards his wife and helped him chip away at her. At her confidence and spark and everything that made her who she was. Then indoctrination took place. Then I spent some years alone and healed. Then I remembered who I was.
I could've had them charged this year and even arrested, even giggled in my mischievous manner at the very thought. His parents and sister and brother in law, the ones with 9 kids, you may remember reading in WINLAC, how much I loved and admired them, how they were the only ones who didn't seem like hypocrites.
I didn't have them charged. Know why? Because I loved them. I got as far away as possible from them instead.
Even the very best of them, will turn on anyone who believes differently. His parents weren't good people at all but his sister was. Didn't matter, only the delusion matters, even though the jesus! character told them to love no matter what.
I don't like the thought of future generations continuing this very damaging farce that is religion and I don't give a rat's arse what anyone thinks of me.
I was 13 when I first questioned "faith" but it was all I knew...I tried to put those doubts out of my mind. I was 21 when I first saw a side of "Christianity" when I began to know I couldn't accept parts of it.
I have been there Luci...over time I knew that I had to follow a different path.
I believe that many many Christians try to follow the path laid out in front of them. Problem is...those Christians that make up the rules as they go...are often times more visible and most always more audible.
I tried to post on that "Atheism" thread. To be quite honest...I found myself tired of hearing the same things over and over. I think that is when I realized...I just don't care any more.
I am tired of the hatred...no matter where it is coming from.