Chris Clearwater

United States

#603148 Oct 24, 2013
Old School Granny wrote:
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We've got the wood pellet stove going for nearly a week now, it helps so the furnace doesn't kick on - also electric blanket on the bed -- it was 20 out the other morning when I left home --
I don't plan to transport much this winter - I plan to hunker down too -- maybe we will get more time to get a chat here and there.
Weather is messing up my computer tonight -- tis jumping all over -- Blessings to you dear friend -- talk to you soon as I'm about to call it a night. TLC
Hi Granny! Just passing by, much love.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603149 Oct 24, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
Science has not proven that there is no God.
Nor has it proved that there are no leprechauns or vampires. Are you waiting for proof before you stop believing in those?
Here For Now wrote:
Some scientist believes in God.
Is that important to you? Does that affirm your decision to join them?
Here For Now wrote:
No that was not better, you don’t believe and it was said sarcastically. Sister, yes in that we all started from the same ancestors. Just not Sister in Christ. Jesus loves you.
Of course it was said sarcastically. It was tit-for-tat in response to your "Have a good day/night" at the end of a post that was nothing but a gratuitous insult.
Here For Now wrote:
I’m sorry Ians but your philosophy and vocabulary (your way of thinking) is of no use to me. That is why I read few of your posts. I’m not the only one that scrolls Ians. I don’t think you can say that you feel my beliefs are going to help you live a better life? Same difference.
I commend you for getting through this post without throwing in an insult or making a personal attack. Maybe your god is working through you after all, although I'm not sure that those are his standards, either. He likes to call skeptics some pretty horrible things himself.

That's the kind of comment that you think justifies hurling a personal insult back in return, isn't it? But if you'll think about it, it's a legitimate criticism of the message in scripture, which you should defend if you can, or gracefully disregard - not grounds for your wrath or contempt.

It's too bad if we have different opinions, and irrelevant to me that you consider yours holy and mine demonic. Those opinions are nothing but trash talk to an unbeliever. If you choose to express those sentiments with people that don't share your values, then you should expect some blow back.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603150 Oct 24, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
Pissed off?
That's a little strong. I simply don't care for Christian exceptionalism - the idea that you have special privileges or are better because you think you stand for a god. I'm merely returning to you what you dished out earlier. Do you think that that's unfair? I'll bet you do.

I don't care for your implication that whatever doesn't support your religious faith is evil or worthless. I realize that it is burned into you, and that you are only being as you were taught to be, but that doesn't matter much to me, nor make it right. You should expect to be treated as you treat others.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603151 Oct 24, 2013
Old School Granny wrote:
Ya know I detect a little sweetness behind your rough charade
Me, too. I suspect that you're not all bad.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603152 Oct 24, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. yesterday a female mentioned that you (IAN) couldn't teach them anything. Because we learn from each other, to me, this reflects a shallow spiritual growth ..
Here For Now, right? She was rather proud of it, too.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. you need to know that you've taught me many things. To my amazement, yesterday I taught Catcher a new word. Today RR might teach me something. Tomorrow, who knows ??..
.. for some, the scourge of religion has left a nefarious indelible print on their minds; one immune to reason ..
.. this brings me to what I want to write: the god within me recognizes and honors the god within you. Keep growing, beautiful ..
Thanks for your kind words. And you know how I feel about you, gentle spirit.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603153 Oct 24, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Take no notice of IANS, he tries to get any Christian annoyed and is in here for that particular reason.....


Believe it or not, it's not about you. I have other reasons for expressing the opinions I do.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603154 Oct 24, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
I thought...I could be wrong...that she was saying that if you don't behave she will whack your balls off...use them for marbles and then stick a blow torch up your ass. Like I said...I could be wrong...I hope that I am wrong...
Maybe. Whispers is a feisty one. And a hoot. That's what she is.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603155 Oct 24, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ybeke7_d1zEXX
Yep fellow I'm a happy camper.lol
Me, too.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603156 Oct 24, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
Maybe she has seen your posts and knows exactly where any conversation with you about her belief system is going.
She should. Don't we all know that about one another by now? She can count on me to criticize her church, and I can count on her to resent it and indicate as much.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#603157 Oct 24, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
no, I do not recall IAN comparing anyone to a Hereford cow ..
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Page 28851
It aint necessarily so:
Did you realize that "Here For Now" and "Hereford Cow" only differ by two letters?
Really? I thought that I was comparing the letters in two phrases, not the characteristics of their referents.

And I did it for her. I wanted to be certain to leave at least one post on this thread that she could get something out of. Is that so wrong?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#603158 Oct 24, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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I'd bet you and the books have spent almost a lifetime together.
Did you ever take up any type of hobbies along the way.
I learned to play the guitar and sing. I played at my first folk festival at 14.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#603159 Oct 24, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Nor has it proved that there are no leprechauns or vampires. Are you waiting for proof before you stop believing in those?....
That is an excellent and valid question that has NEVER been answered sanely.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#603160 Oct 24, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Precisely.
14 x 3 = 42.
And yet the author lists merely 41:
Your Benidis is in the way.

You can't learn.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#603161 Oct 24, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Christianity has everything to do with it. And many Christians on this thread are rabid homophobes. They are vectors for the meme. That you don't recognize that is just another part of the problem.
They don't pay much attention to their own book:

There are forty-two death-penalty sins in the Old Testament. Everything from murder to fartin' at the dinner table:

•Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19.
•Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25.
•Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex.
•2:15,19.
•Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15.
•Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7.
•Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.
•Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32.
•Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18.
•Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16.
•Idolatry - Ex. 22:20.
•Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33.
•Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33.
•Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38.
•Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14.
•Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2.
•Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in
•uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21.
•Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25.
•Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9.
•Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14.
•Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22.
•Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8.
•Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5.
•Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27.
•Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30.
•Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13.
•Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18.
•Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22.
•Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3.
•Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29.
•Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30.
•Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16.
•Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13.
•Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31.
•Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36.
•Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20.
•False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20.
•Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18.
•Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23.
•Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23.
•Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23.
•Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7.
•False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#603162 Oct 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Your Benidis is in the way.
You can't learn.
You can't count, neither can your deity.

I bet you think bats are birds. I bet you believe insects have four legs, too.

Is a camel a clean or unclean beast ? No one has agreed on that in 3000 years. Did God give you that answer yet ?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#603163 Oct 24, 2013
Angel9999 wrote:
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They don't pay much attention to their own book:
There are forty-two death-penalty sins in the Old Testament. Everything from murder to fartin' at the dinner table:
•Murder - Gen. 9:6; Ex. 21:12-14,20,23; Lev. 24:17,21; Num. 35:16-34; Deut. 19.
•Failing to circumcise - Gen. 17:14; Ex. 4:24,25.
•Eating leavened bread during feast of unleavened bread - Ex.
•2:15,19.
•Smiting Parents- Ex. 21:15.
•Kidnapping - Ex. 21:16; Deut. 24:7.
•Cursing Parents - Ex. 21:17; Lev. 20:9.
•Negligence with animals that kill - Ex. 21:28-32.
•Witchcraft - Ex. 22:18.
•Bestiality - Ex. 22:19; Lev. 18:23-29; 20:15,16.
•Idolatry - Ex. 22:20.
•Making holy anointing oil - Ex. 30:33.
•Putting holy anointing oil on strangers - Ex. 30:33.
•Making the holy perfume - Ex. 30:38.
•Defiling the Sabbath - Ex. 31:14.
•Working on the Sabbath - Ex. 35:2.
•Eating the flesh of the peace offerings in
•uncleanness - Lev. 7:20,21.
•Eating the fat of sacrifices - Lev. 7:25.
•Killing sacrifices other than at the door of the tabernacle - Lev. 17:1-9.
•Eating blood - Lev. 17:10-14.
•Incest - Lev. 18:6-29; 20:11-22.
•Eating sacrifices at the wrong time - Lev. 19:5-8.
•Consecration of children to idols - Lev. 20:1-5.
•Spiritualism - Lev. 20:6,27.
•Adultery - Lev. 20:10; Deut. 22:22-30.
•Sodomy/Homosexuality - Lev. 20:13.
•Relationship with a menstruous woman - Lev. 20:18.
•Whoredom - Lev. 21:9; Deut. 22:21,22.
•Sacrilege - Lev. 22:3.
•Refusing to fast on day of atonement - Lev. 23:29.
•Working on atonement - Lev. 23:30.
•Blasphemy - Lev. 24:11-16.
•Failure to keep the Passover - Num. 9:13.
•Presumptuous - Num. 15:30,31.
•Gathering firewood on the Sabbath - Num. 15:32,36.
•Failure to purify self before worship - Num. 19:13,20.
•False prophecy - Deut. 13:1-18; 18:20.
•Leading men away from God - Deut. 13:6-18.
•Stubbornness and rebelliousness - Deut. 21:18-23.
•Gluttony - Deut. 21:20-23.
•Drunkenness - Deut. 21:20-23.
•Backbiting - Deut. 17:2-7.
•False dreams and visions - Deut. 13:1-18.
The OT laws do not apply to Christianity. They only apply to everyone else.
RR says they are only for Jews 2000 years ago, he is a bit of a heretic.

ROFLMAO

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#603164 Oct 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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The OT laws do not apply to Christianity. They only apply to everyone else.
RR says they are only for Jews 2000 years ago, he is a bit of a heretic.
ROFLMAO
That's what they believe even though Hey Zeus told them otherwise:

Matthew 5:17-20

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Since: Jul 08

Westerville, OH

#603165 Oct 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Your Benidis is in the way.
You can't learn.
You're confusing learning with pretending, goofy.

Since: Jul 08

Westerville, OH

#603166 Oct 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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You can't count, neither can your deity.
....
It's new math -- New Testament math, that is.

Since: May 11

UK

#603167 Oct 24, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Atheist logic?
Devout atheist?
Humanist preacher?
Humanist church?
Secular religion?
Secular training?
Secular dogma?
Secular faith?
"The tides come in, the tides go out. We don't know how that happens"... LOL, Not O'Reilly's best moment...
Atheism is rooted in logic.

Atheists cannot be devout, atheism requires no devotions to be paid to anything.

There is no such thing as a humanist preacher, they are practitioners.

Humanist churches? 4200 mentions of "Humanist Church" on the web and I'm thinking calling a Humanist organisation a church would work well for them when it comes to receiving the same tax benefits as 'churches'.

Before I continue...you obviously have a problem with the definition of "Secularism".

"Secularism is a principle that involves two basic propositions. The first is the strict separation of the state from religious institutions. The second is that people of different religions and beliefs are equal before the law". Hope that helped.

Secular Religion? See definition of secularism above.

Secular Training? See definition of secularism above.

Secular dogma? See definition of secularism above.

Secular dogma? See definition of secularism above.

Secular faith? See definition of secularism above.

Oh' Really repeated his howler regarding the tides in several ways and then when replying to the criticism of his complete lack of understanding of EVERYTHING said, "How'd the moon get there...how come Mars doesn't have that"...as we all know(or I hope we do) Mars has 2 moons...The man is a 'pinhead'.

But my absolute favourite was: "O'Reilly: But I tell you what, I've been in combat. I've seen it. I've been close to it. And if my unit is in danger and I got a captured guy and the guy knows where the enemy is and I'm looking him in the eye, the guy better tell me. That's all I'm gonna tell you. If it's life or death, he's going first"...after never serving a single second in the armed forces...Did I say the man was a 'pinhead'?

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