Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#603065 Oct 23, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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who do you mean when saying "we"???
are all the gaytheists sitting on your couch debating how to answer 'us' righteous folk?
Do you think Ben has gay theists sitting on his couch? Are you a gay theist?

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#603066 Oct 23, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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It's all good Annie :)
I value your posts.
and i value you, ms Tam - do you value me?:)

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#603067 Oct 23, 2013
blessedaya wrote:
WHY!
because that is what Jesus is. He is LOVE.
even if we are so imperfect so unlovable He cant stop loving us.
thats the reason I so love Him too..
Thank you Jesus!!!

You sound like a flower power hippy chick from the 60's.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#603068 Oct 23, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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who do you mean when saying "we"???
are all the gaytheists sitting on your couch debating how to answer 'us' righteous folk?
You're calling yourself righteous is like Hitler calling himself a saint.

RiversideRedneck

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#603069 Oct 23, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
continued
130-200 Epistle of Mathetes to Diognetus
140-150 Epistula Apostolorum
140-160 Ptolemy
140-160 Isidore
140-170 Fronto
140-170 Infancy Gospel of James
140-170 Infancy Gospel of Thomas
140-180 Gospel of Truth
150-160 Martyrdom of Polycarp
150-160 Justin Martyr
150-180 Excerpts of Theodotus
150-180 Heracleon
150-200 Ascension of Isaiah
150-200 Acts of Peter
150-200 Acts of John
150-200 Acts of Paul
150-200 Acts of Andrew
150-225 Acts of Peter and the Twelve
150-225 Book of Thomas the Contender
150-250 Fifth and Sixth Books of Esra
150-300 Authoritative Teaching
150-300 Coptic Apocalypse of Paul
150-300 Discourse on the Eighth and Ninth
150-300 Melchizedek
150-400 Acts of Pilate
150-400 Anti-Marcionite Prologues
160-170 Tatian's Address to the Greeks
160-180 Claudius Apollinaris
160-180 Apelles
160-180 Julius Cassianus
160-250 Octavius of Minucius Felix
161-180 Acts of Carpus
165-175 Melito of Sardis
165-175 Hegesippus
165-175 Dionysius of Corinth
165-175 Lucian of Samosata
167 Marcus Aurelius
170-175 Diatessaron
170-200 Dura-Europos Gospel Harmony
170-200 Muratorian Canon
170-200 Treatise on the Resurrection
170-220 Letter of Peter to Philip
175-180 Athenagoras of Athens
175-185 Irenaeus of Lyons
175-185 Rhodon
175-185 Theophilus of Caesarea
175-190 Galen
178 Celsus
178 Letter from Vienna and Lyons
180 Passion of the Scillitan Martyrs
180-185 Theophilus of Antioch
180-185 Acts of Apollonius
180-220 Bardesanes
180-220 Kerygmata Petrou
180-230 Hippolytus of Rome
180-250 1st Apocalypse of James
180-250 Gospel of Philip
182-202 Clement of Alexandria
185-195 Maximus of Jerusalem
185-195 Polycrates of Ephesus
188-217 Talmud
189-199 Victor I
190-210 Pantaenus
193 Anonymous Anti-Montanist
193-216 Inscription of Abercius
197-220 Tertullian
200-210 Serapion of Antioch
200-210 Apollonius
200-220 Caius
200-220 Philostratus
200-225 Acts of Thomas
200-250 Didascalia
200-250 Books of Jeu
200-300 Pistis Sophia
200-300 Coptic Apocalypse of Peter
203 Acts of Perpetua and Felicitas
203-250 Origen
And you expect me to pick the one you're thinking of.

O_o

RiversideRedneck

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#603070 Oct 23, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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There may be value in it but the same can be said of any number of ancient musings whose authorship is unknown or questionable. Aesop is one example. I see no more value in one than the other.
Everything known of ancient civilizations is a part of the history of mankind. The Bible is just a small part of that.
Small part?

The Bible has been printed over 2-1/2 billion times.

Compare that to the number one selling book in history, A Tale of Two Cities, at 200 million.

Not very small.

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#603071 Oct 23, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I get so damn dizzy when you start to run circles around me, that I lose sight of the scarves.
.. it's your priapism (IAN will know that one)..

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#603072 Oct 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I am not discounting the value of all literature and yes I agree that the Bible a part of that...I just don't agree with it being just a small part however.
Maybe for others it has only been a very small part but in the culture that I was raised in the Bible played the most significant role in that society. If I had of lived in another culture then probably the religious text of that country would have been more significant.
River...I am not trying to convince you of anything...I am not trying to tell you to value the words that are written in the Bible or in any book for that matter.
For me however...people have put a value on my being from that ancient book. They have told me that my son has no value...that his life is worthless. They have took it upon themselves to tell me that my husband burns in hell. My family is split and all of this has been based upon that book. The words written in that book are the bases for a lot of my life...the good...and the bad.
Wars have been fought...people have lost their lives...people have been made to feel less than while other feel they have this magic key...all due to a book. Every where you look you can find the influences of these ancient religious writings...the good and the bad.
Maybe Aesop's Fables have influenced some peoples lives to this extent...I just haven't seen it.
Within the confines of the bindings that hold all of those words together...lies the explanation of how we all live our lives...whether it be true or false...maybe better said as...because of or despite...what is in that book.
It is all good River...your post just triggered thoughts in my head. That happens at times when maybe it shouldn't!
Excellent post, Annie!

Thanks!

RiversideRedneck

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#603073 Oct 23, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
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Yup.
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Oops. First chapter of the first book of the NT and the author can even count. He lists only 13 generations after the Babylonian exile to Jesus' time while claiming there were 14.
Worse. While the author says Jehoram is the father of Uzziah (also known as Azariah), 1 Chronicles 3 claims he was his great-great grandfather. Looks like the author of Matthew had to leave a few generations out(specifically, Ahaziah, Joash, and Amaziah) to keep it at 14 generations from King David to the Babylonian exile.
Some perfection, eh?
Gee. I only had to read one chapter into the Christian canon to get 'er done.
Lol

You left out the father of Shealtiel, Jeconiah.

Now there's 14.

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#603074 Oct 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Small part?
The Bible has been printed over 2-1/2 billion times.
Compare that to the number one selling book in history, A Tale of Two Cities, at 200 million.
Not very small.
Yes...Bible printing is big business. Have you ever wondered...if God/Jesus does exist...how they would feel about some people getting so rich from selling the "word of God". That never seemed quite right to me...shouldn't God's word be free for all?

When I was a child I didn't know that you had to buy Bibles...I guess I thought they just dropped down from up above when someone needed one. That seems more right to me.

My very first "real" Bible I received before I could even read...had my name on it stamped in "gold"...I remember running my hands over that "gold"...I knew that God had sent it...we were too poor for my parents to afford "gold". Plus it came at Christmas time...so who else could have sent it?

I found out years later...it wasn't "real" "gold" and that my mother had gotten it with S&H green stamps.

Still...it doesn't seem right...Bible printing as a big business...

I used to shop at this one Bible book store a lot...there are way more "other" books in a Bible book store than Bibles.

Some Bibles cost way more than $100...not sure why a Bible should cost that much...unless you get the unedited version...that includes the previews, trailers and reviews...oh...and pictures.(colored ones)

...and free membership to the club...

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#603075 Oct 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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So you believe that the Bible holds no more historical value than Aesop's Fables?.....
In a way, yes.

The impact the Bible has had on Western Civilization has been minimal.
It is the 90% of Christianity that is NOT in the Bible that has impacted Western Civilization. It is the lies the Church has told ABOUT the Bible that made the changes, none of which were positive... unless the mass murder of heretics, Muslims, pagans and Jews for 1500 years is considered a positive thing.

The Bible is just a collection of old books, there are 200 Christian texts more just as important.

RiversideRedneck

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#603076 Oct 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:

.. no, I do not recall IAN comparing anyone to a Hereford cow ..
Page 28851

It aint necessarily so:

Did you realize that "Here For Now" and "Hereford Cow" only differ by two letters?

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#603077 Oct 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Small part?
The Bible has been printed over 2-1/2 billion times.
Compare that to the number one selling book in history, A Tale of Two Cities, at 200 million.
Not very small.
Sounds nearly as diabolical as the Koran and Torah?

“"None shall pass"”

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#603078 Oct 23, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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And you expect me to pick the one you're thinking of.
O_o
Nope.

You said you reject them all.

You picked the number, not me.

You are still proving your religion is that of pigs.

RiversideRedneck

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#603079 Oct 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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Yes...Bible printing is big business. Have you ever wondered...if God/Jesus does exist...how they would feel about some people getting so rich from selling the "word of God". That never seemed quite right to me...shouldn't God's word be free for all?
When I was a child I didn't know that you had to buy Bibles...I guess I thought they just dropped down from up above when someone needed one. That seems more right to me.
My very first "real" Bible I received before I could even read...had my name on it stamped in "gold"...I remember running my hands over that "gold"...I knew that God had sent it...we were too poor for my parents to afford "gold". Plus it came at Christmas time...so who else could have sent it?
I found out years later...it wasn't "real" "gold" and that my mother had gotten it with S&H green stamps.
Still...it doesn't seem right...Bible printing as a big business...
I used to shop at this one Bible book store a lot...there are way more "other" books in a Bible book store than Bibles.
Some Bibles cost way more than $100...not sure why a Bible should cost that much...unless you get the unedited version...that includes the previews, trailers and reviews...oh...and pictures.(colored ones)
...and free membership to the club...
The Bible as text isn't copyrighted so anybody can run up a print of the text and sell it and keep the money.

Don't assume it's only Christian organizations that are in that business.

Big business? I suppose, but I don't know. I've never had to buy a Bible.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#603080 Oct 23, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I know...LW can lose control at times.
You just never know what is going to come out of her mouth...I've been trying to work with her but she just keeps headin' down that wild and crazy fast lane of hers.
Did you see her video the other day...the one with the bear acting as if he was having an orgasm...I was so embarrassed! LOL
LOL

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There

#603081 Oct 23, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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I dont know if she has with you either, but I know she has with Ben......
Agreed.

RiversideRedneck

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#603082 Oct 23, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Sounds nearly as diabolical as the Koran and Torah?
Funny you mention that. The Koran has more printed copies than the Bible. The Bible is at about 2.5 billion while the Koran is at about 3 billion.

RiversideRedneck

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#603083 Oct 23, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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Nope.
You said you reject them all.
You picked the number, not me.
You are still proving your religion is that of pigs.
I never said that I reject one, two or all of them.

Quote me saying that and we'll continue.

If not, you're showing your lies.

Again.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#603084 Oct 23, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. it's your priapism (IAN will know that one)..
Yes you told us, and about nano and almonds.

I don't have that problem, thank goodness.

It wood be embarrassing while arguing before a jury, wouldn't you say?

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