Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#596358 Sep 28, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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wELL..
I mean "nEver" unless I caught you in a trap or something, and I only do that with friends.
My Grandfather, or my "Paw" as we called him, was especially fond of old time music like that.
He taught me everything I know about the mountains, woods, trees and such. Everything. We used to spend a lot of time together. He was born in 1911 and worked in the CC during the Depression.
He died cutting some trees at my Uncles place. They found him in his truck and he'd stopped to take a break to have some "sody" crackers and tea.
Anyway. He liked that kind of music.
This is good.
My daddy was a stiller an runner. He had a 39 ford "dual tank". Fastest thing in 4 counties till they caught em in a 5 way roadblock ! That was it! He went ta work for the army do'in near about the same thing all over the world after that. They called him the "communications expert" LOL! I'll jist stop the progression o' lineage right there if ya don't mind....I'm still alive ya see...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596359 Sep 28, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
... clearly anyone knows why taking the high road would be considered a positive. When the post to you repeated your statement in question form: "Why bother?" ..as if you were saying you saw no value in doing it I shook my head. Most people obviously have a limit on what they will take before responding in kind.
You're rationalizing for Rider. Here are his words again:

"I wanted to point that out because when people here take that road it is very rarely acknowledged, and I know thats why its not taken nearly enough. When people dont take notice, in my own case anyway, its like why bother... "

It's clear what he meant.
Skombolis wrote:
Somebody will say you meant why ever take the high road
Like I said, his words speak for themselves. Why do you feel the need to try to come in and sugar coat them? His honest admission is the beginning of self-understanding and self-improvement, but only if his errors are recognized for what they are and dealt with as such, however painful. You do him no favors with comments like, "Most people obviously have a limit on what they will take before responding in kind." You're justifying his mistakes. Let him see and confront them.

“What game?”

Since: Oct 10

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#596360 Sep 28, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Oh, Now, the gal ain't never been around the hill country all that much...let alone the forbidden "still" country, so she ain't never partook of the "finest" artists o' shine.
Have a little mercy son...or better yet...take 'er on down the river ta "see"...she'd prolly appreciate it.
I don't know much about shine but I did grow up in Korea and China. There are some "hills" there. The Appalachian chain runs through the state I live in. I've hiked from Maine to Jersey. I know a little about hills but not much about hill folk. I would like to learn :)

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#596361 Sep 28, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Yeah, she'd love it.
The good parts of that way of life have almost vanished, but it's still here and there.
When I was 16 years old, the county I grew up in had a total population of 10,000 people, and 3,000 lived in the city limits. Our closest neighbors still plowed with mules. We kept goats and that's where our milk was from.
Good times.
Yep!
I jist knowed there was a reason I like ya. Ya varmint! Can ya play the "plinker"? I never could worth a hoot...but I can play 'bout any damned thing else ya put in front o' me!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#596362 Sep 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I bet you miss him. I miss mine too and that I wasn't with him when he died. When they led me out I looked at him and he was smiling.
Girl, he knowed someth'n "special" was carry'n on...don't let 'em down.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596363 Sep 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
It's those lazy Mexican burros, muchacho. Now go eat your third world tiramisu.
Funny.

Since: May 09

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#596364 Sep 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I bet you miss him. I miss mine too and that I wasn't with him when he died. When they led me out I looked at him and he was smiling.
I miss him a whole bunch. Whenever I'm out cutting or walking in the hills, and lots of things, he's always right there with me.

hahaa...

Every so often when I'm out cutting, I'll hear ...

"You best clear you a path cause that's a biggun, case you need tuh run from it, ye don't wanna be trippin over at creepin ivy n' saw briar and all. Never fergit, that tree wants to kill you, and it it can"

Or something like that.

It varies, depending on what's going on.

I could tell you miss yours from what you wrote. Just keep him close.

Since: Mar 09

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#596365 Sep 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text> Let him see and confront them.
Like you do?

Too ironic

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#596366 Sep 28, 2013
River Tam wrote:
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I don't know much about shine but I did grow up in Korea and China. There are some "hills" there. The Appalachian chain runs through the state I live in. I've hiked from Maine to Jersey. I know a little about hills but not much about hill folk. I would like to learn :)
Well, sis ther some of the best folk I know. I spent a lot of my time in the NY an Jersey hills. Other folk came in around Paint WV, and some farther south from Boon country. They was all good folks. NEVER took ta store bought stuff much...lived off the land...which was tough. I had a uncle who had a oil well, and wouldn't sell even one barrel of it. That's just how they were. If I was there, we would get up every morn'n at 3 oclock and go on out hunt'n squirrels, rabbits, or deer for meat...every day. Gas bags hang'n offa pipes for lite in the house, and wood and coal for the stoves....all came right off the land. It was a good life. Biggest entertainment was the "train station"... 2 miles down a washed out road to the tracks. They had a "penny candy counter". The kids all sold some hides ta buy the candy. That was it. Persimmons, gooseberries, wild strawberries, and blackberries--oh blueberries too. Sugar trees made hard candy in the fall snows.
What more could ya want!

Since: Mar 09

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#596367 Sep 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You would do well to recognize that that is a common pattern for you.... It's suboptimal to just keep making the same mistakes again and again, and coming to the same conclusions again and again, while never growing.
Like you do?

You could never do what I just did

You could never admit you were wrong

You could never admit your ego got the best of you

You will lie, deny, equivocate, use semantics, justify, rationalize, and defend any position you ever take no matter how wrong

You have been here almost 9 month. Have you admitted you were wrong about anything? Admitted any culpability? Done anything but make grandiose claims and excuses for why you do what you do?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596368 Sep 28, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
I wanted to point that out because when people here take that road it is very rarely acknowledged, and I know thats why its not taken nearly enough. When people dont take notice, in my own case anyway, its like why bother...
Happy Lesbo wrote:
why bother? Because, like giving to worthwhile charities, it's the right thing to do and promotes humanity ..
Rider on the Storm wrote:
Rereading it I still think you were taking a shot at me.......I'll accept your position though........
It's hard to imagine how you thought that. Did she attack you? Did she call you a bad person? No. She answered your question in a constructive, nonjudgmental way. If you got something else from that, that's you. You're as defensive and suspicious as your cohorts:

Trifecta now: "Some writers here posing as atheists may be actual Christians and some Christians here may be atheists. That is how cynical and suspicious I view this billboard."

Skombolis wrote: "People have fakes bring nice because they think its funny to get Chrustuans to trust them but they don't it fot long"

The unbelievers here will help all of you if you can put down your guard for a moment and consider that we might be more than demons. You may be out of Christianity now, but Christianity isn't out of you.

I think it's the hive training that makes you three all so suspicious and defensive of us "ungodly" people, a word used as an insult in that worldview. It is a divisive worldview, one which depicts "the other" as a morally bereft enemy of god and goodness, and probably accounts for why you read into her comment that Happy Lesbo was taking a shot at you. I don't see that at all.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596369 Sep 28, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Your insincerity and bs is noted.
Oh good! Look who's back. At last we can get past the petty name calling and character attacks.

Where's Adam been?

Since: Mar 09

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#596370 Sep 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You're rationalizing for Rider..
No

You are rationalizing HL

Anyone could see what he meant. She used a technicality to pretend she didn't know otherwise. She knew she did it or she never would have claimed her post was just a compliment to Epi when it started off questioning Larry why he said "why bother"?

If she really thought he meant it like she presented it, she wouldn't have denied calling him on it. Instead she pretended she didn't because she knew it was a crappy thing to do to someone who had just made some very nice overtures to her

Not only you can't admit to being wrong and neither can some that came here with you, you guys defend each other's wrongdoings.

Your group's people skills are atrocious

Forget the trolling. How about simply the fact you guys can't engage in any exchange with someone even when they are being civil without being condescending and snide?

You guys can't seem to talk to normally to anyone that isn't part of your co-dependent support system

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#596371 Sep 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Funny.
OK. What in the HELL IS "third world" Tiramisu?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596372 Sep 28, 2013
Le_le wrote:
Unreal. Of course your post was a compliment to Epi.. One could only find malice in what you wrote- if that's what they were looking for in the first place.
Agreed. You summed it up nicely.
Le_le wrote:
I should of figured Skom and Larry would turn this into a circus. Two clowns behaving as.. well...clowns.
Still laughing. You're a treasure, Le_le.

Since: May 09

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#596373 Sep 28, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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This is good.
My daddy was a stiller an runner. He had a 39 ford "dual tank". Fastest thing in 4 counties till they caught em in a 5 way roadblock ! That was it! He went ta work for the army do'in near about the same thing all over the world after that. They called him the "communications expert" LOL! I'll jist stop the progression o' lineage right there if ya don't mind....I'm still alive ya see...
They still call it "white likker" in my region. The people I know do anyway. Not sure why. I do know that when someone talks about "moon shine" here, it clues you that they aren't from the immediate area,

There's all kinds of little things and "speak" that lets you know what you need to know. What seems like a 5 or 6 word mumble to someone else can convey all kinds of information.

You know how it is.*winks*

Since: Mar 09

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#596374 Sep 28, 2013
scaritual wrote:
More information, from Christian sources, that illustrate the problem.
Does Christianity Have an Image Problem?
" Broadly speaking, outsiders are hostile toward Christianity because of its perceived "swagger," our sense of self-importance, even arrogance: "We have become famous for what we oppose, rather than who we are for." More specifically, the negative image centers on the following six themes:
We are hypocritical, with a morally superior attitude.
We are too focused on getting converts.
We are anti-homosexual, with bigoted and intolerant attitudes toward gays and lesbians.
We are sheltered and isolated, out of touch with the rest of the world.
We are too political, in that our views too often reflect conservative ideology and the right wing.
We are judgmental, lacking in love, and too quick to condemn."
http://www.cedarville.edu/Offices/Student-Lif...
Christianity's Image Problem
" If Jesus' public relations committee were working for anyone else, they'd have been fired long ago. Anyone else with such a bad image problem would disappear. The campaign would be over, the bus tour cancelled, the public appearances would stop."
http://www.ministrymatters.com/all/article/en...
'My Confession' Campaign Aims to Reverse Christianity's Bad Image
"A group that seeks to reverse the bad image of Christianity in America launched a new campaign Tuesday that encourages Christians to publicly confess their shortcomings by leaving notes in public places and reporting them on a website.
The My Confession campaign, organized by Changing the Face of Christianity, Inc., hopes to get Christians to acknowledge problems such as hidden hypocrisy, intolerance and homophobia – failings that give the faith a bad name."
http://www.christianpost.com/news/my-confessi...
Just about everything mentioned in the sites provided above, and previously, echo what atheists and the others that frequent here non theists, agnostics etc...commonly referred to as "Trolls" have been saying from the beginning.
Christians recognize and say it too.
It isn't just atheists and non theists that speak out and confront the issue.
It isn't trolling to point that out.
You are back on this again?

But still won't answer 2 simple questions

You want to pretend you aren't stereotyping. But you can't even bring yourself to say any group will have people that do bad things and thus be considered "tainted" or admit if an individual negative action can taint an entire group then individual positive actions should make it look better

If you were capable of being honest you would have to concede it goes both ways and there are a lot of people within the faith doing good and making Christianity look good

But that doesn't serve your purpose.

You want to only focus on the negative and only focus on one group even though it applies to every group. Why do you not spend time giving credit for all the good that is done?

Yeah I would say coming here and refusing to answer any question that doesn't further your goal to slam Christianity is pretty much trolling. You enter exchanges under false pretenses. And refuse to even verbalize anything that can't be used as an insult

There are several hundred million Christians in the U.S. alone. The good far outweighs the bad. But people don't find the good interesting. It is why the news always focuses on negative things way more than positive. People like negative. They like to feel superior. They like to judge and tell themselves how they are so much better. They don't want to talk about all the good being done because how does that help their ego?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596375 Sep 28, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
I think its very easy to see how me and skom took it........
Yes, it is. What's harder to see is why.

Incidentally, you don't seem to understand that how you see things can reflect on you. You seem to be saying that your reaction was not subjective.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#596376 Sep 28, 2013
Le_le wrote:
Makes me truly wonder- what does Christ do for us if this is the way his followers behave?
You're not alone.

I think that the best things about your Christianity is your unwillingness to be assimilated into the hive. You would rather stand alone in defense of your own values than join a crowd whose values you do not respect.

Since: May 09

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#596377 Sep 28, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Yep!
I jist knowed there was a reason I like ya. Ya varmint! Can ya play the "plinker"? I never could worth a hoot...but I can play 'bout any damned thing else ya put in front o' me!
You too.

I played banjo from about 11 to 15-16. This was the last banjo bit I was trying to get down right.


Then life took a turn and I've never played since.

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