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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#595340 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
You were asked to give it a rest once in a while after 250 plus days of coming in here and bashing the faith repeatedly.
You don't define the limits of the debate. Your religion is garbage and needs criticism.
Skombolis wrote:
All that was required for peace was for you to do something different after 9 months of constant negativity and insults
All that was required was for me to accede to your demands, demands that you have no right to make. Sorry, but it's not your thread.

As for nine months, you have been throwing this tantrum from the start. You don't like my valid criticisms of your church, and have never offered any better rebuttal to them than verbal feces. Do you think that that is a rebuttal to my claim that we'd be better off without your church?
Skombolis wrote:
People shouldn't have to be subjected to your opinion about there faith a dozen times a day for 9 months.
That's not your call.

You made some claiming about peaceful coexistence earlier, and I called you on it - "Your church has demonized and marginalized unbelievers for as long as it has been able to do so" - which opinion you also didn't like, and which set off another stomping and feces throwing tantrum. You made my point then, and you make it again now. Your church teaches intolerance, and you are its embodiment.

If you can't rebut the claims, it's probably because they are valid.

This is what I do here: I pull back the curtain and expose your church for what it is. Of course you don't like it. It reflects badly on something you hold sacred. But that is of no concern to me, even if you think it should be.

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Since: Jul 11

There

#595341 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Thats not relevant
It isn't even applicable under any circumstances unless someone can point to an official teaching they know for a fact someone follows and interprets the same way in that group.
But in any event that's not relevant here because the judgment being passed on all members of a group is based on the actions of one person, not the group ideology
If a mailman molests a child, should that taint all mailmen? After all, they chose to be mailmen. So does that mean they now are culpable for what any mailman does the world over are are individuals still just responsible for their own actions
If half of all people calling themselves Chrisitans do not follow a single teaching of Jesus, lie about the Bible, slander non-believers and espouse hatred towards groups of people that doesn't reflect on Christinity and Jesus ?

Sorry Skom, I think you are trying to wash the dirt of the hands of Christianity. Christians are Christiainiy's worst enemy. playing the "individual acts" card won;t change that fact.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#595342 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Its people line you that taint the reputations of anybody who has a name that begins with the letter "S"
Oh I'm sorry, was that a ludicrous assertion and specious reasoning?
Bigotry and stereotyping depend on this kind of flawed thinking
Looks like you got the hang of it though
are you an example of a "good christian"

are your posts here an example of "christian morality" in action?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#595343 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
I would like to see anyone who abuses children in prison
And I'd like you to see them.

I'll bet they'd love to see you, too, Miss Prissy Pants.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#595344 Sep 25, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
You get dumped on more than you give out
Yes, I know, Christian. You sound proud.

Nevertheless, according to you, I'm the fighter.
trifecta1 wrote:
fight! lol. These writing can't mask that all you want to do on here is fight
More insight-free posting from the Simp.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#595345 Sep 25, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
<quoted text>
That young "friend" sure has you on edge BT.....
I believe you and I are around the same age....Peace Man....Here is a virtual Hug for you....>>>H_U_G< <<
Hope you enjoy your free time...what projects do you have planned?
I know Epi, I know...Hugs back to you! You prolly can't even imagine what I have planned for the next 6-9 months. I plan to do things that the norm says is absolutely impossible. BUT...they are absolutely wrong! Most of it I have already done in theory and practically...I simply need to convince myself that it is all correct now...and repetition is the answer to success. Oh..I really have no "free" time
Mental process works 24 hours a day--like it or not...there is no rest for the weary...til it's all solved. Then ya can party! Topix is my "break" from mental stress and the work...so thank you all...

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#595346 Sep 25, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
Yarf, yarpo, Yaaarf!
Good to see you, Hiding.

Yarrrgraa, yahhhrrr, Yowie!

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#595347 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>...If a mailman molests a child, should that taint all mailmen?...
If 25% of all mailmen molest children and claim that it is the policy of the post office and the post office doesn't say otherwise. Yes. It does.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#595348 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Sure I do
What's to reason any way?
You claimed the actions of one person taints hundreds of millions of people
I didn't even bother to see what your complaint was over. I was skimming your post and your bigotry stuck out like a sore thumb
Why don't you explain how the actions of one person taints Christianity?
I love hearing bigots rationalize
christianity is a failed moral system.

When someone claims to be a christian, and behaves poorly, that reflects very little upon the system, what is significant is when others who claim the system is moral, fail to critique the bad behaviour, that condemns the system.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#595349 Sep 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Harry Truman was the flood god?
God was an amateur. It took him 40 days to wipe out a few thousand hunter gatherers.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#595351 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
You made an ass out of yourself with that quiz ...
I made an ass out of you, and I'm about to do it again.

You were vaunting your excellent knowledge of the bible, but you couldn't answer even a single question correctly. Let's look again at questions with the correct answers as well as your answers:

=== The questions and answer key ===

[1] What were Jesus' very last words on the cross?

There are contradictory answers.

John (19:30) says that Jesus' final utterance was,“It is finished.” With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit." - John. Luke (23:46) says it was,“Father, into your hands I commit my spirit.” When he had said this, he breathed his last."

[2] Is man saved by faith or works?

Both.

In one part, the bible says that man is saved by faith, not works ("For by grace are ye saved through faith... not of works." - Ephesians 2:8-9) and in another, the exact opposite ("Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only." - James 2:24)

[3] Can men be righteous?

Yes and no

According to Genesis 7:1,,Job 2:3, and James 5:16, Man can be righteous, whereas according to (Romans 3:10, man cannot be righteous

[4] Have men seen God?

Yes and no.

Men have seen God ("So Jacob called the place Peniel, saying, "It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared." - Genesis 32:30), and also, no man has seen God ("No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known." - John 1:18)

[5] Is every word from God true?

Yes and no.

According to Proverbs 30:5, every word of god is true, while we are told that God deceives prophets at 1 Kings 22:23, and the wicked at 2 Thess. 2:11-12). So, you have your choice again.

[6] Does God grow tired or weary?

That depends.

God is tired and rests ("on the seventh day he abstained from work and rested" - Exodus 31:17), yet God is never tired and never rests ("The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary" - Isaiah 40:28). Go figure!

[7] What was Jesus reply when the Sanhedrin asked if he was Messiah?

That also depends.

According to Mark (14:62), when asked if he was the messiah, Jesus to the Sanhedrin "I am." According to Matthew (26:64), it was, "You have said so." And according to Luke (22:67-8), it was "If I tell you, you will not believe." So take your pick.

=== your answers ===

1) Acts 1-8 about waiting for the Holy Spirit. Don't have time to post whole verse
2) James 2:24-28.
3) Yes but only by doing the Lord's will. You probably don't understand the verse that says no man is righteous is talking about why every man must become a believer. After he is righteous under God
4) Not his face in real life. Only in visions which is all man's mind could handle is his own perception
5) Yes
6) Not in the physical sense
7) He said if He told him that the man wouldn't believe him. But in Matthew he talks about his return and how any but him would be false Christs

Now you tell me which one you got right.
Skombolis wrote:
You can keep asking. The answer will remain the same.
Yes, I know. I am content with that.

Ready for the second quiz? Ready to show off your biblical mastery again?

Since: Jul 09

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#595352 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>What an individual does reflects on the individual
Period
And it would be beyond hubris to think my actions reflect on Jesus
What is the difference between your answer and how people justify racism?
a philosophy is a choice.

The philosophy of christianity is said to be contained in the bible, all can read for themselves.

It is not bigotry to disagree with evil.

Not all of those who follow an evil path, are evil people, it remains however that the path is evil.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#595353 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Edit G
Consider your issues lately about racism
So if I see someone black do something bad, I can claim it taints black people in general?
And if not, what possible difference is there?
Both cases would be taking the actions of one person and applying them to hundreds of millions of people
I am going to keep pointing out these "ethics" by so-called secular humanists in here. And while its not personal with you friend, if you are going to defend it I want to know how
(T) Peace
no one has a choice of skin color, nor does skin color teach behaviour.

philosophy is an adopted choice. you are not obligated (like skin color) to adopt an evil philosophy. You could choose to be a decent person.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#595354 Sep 25, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree. When one joins a group one represents that group and the group is affected by anything the individual does. By Chrisitnity refusing to disown anyone, they are accepting and supporting those individuals. Just like Washington supports political corruption.
IMHO Those who claim to be Christians and do not attempt to follow His teachings are virtually spitting on Jesus.
They are IMHO traitors to that to which they pledged their lives and souls.
Yeah.

It's the same in the military. The actions of one affects the entire platoon, unit, etc... Those actions of the few directly speak to the whole.

And so it is with any organization, company, government and so forth.

It's often said right here on this thread by Christians that this is a Christian country. It's said when someone not Christian states Christianity is in decline that we're ridiculous, and that Christianity grows. It's said that no matter the belief set, sect denomination or way of belief, Christianity is united.

They'll point to the positive actions of one Christian or a few, and say something similar to:

"See?.. that is a Christian, look at what Christians do, that is Christianity!"

Until it comes time to accept that some members of Christianity do things or exhibit behavior that Christianity should rightly be ashamed of, and exhibits some very bad effects that Christianity does produce, then it'll be said:

"OH!.. NO!... Those are individuals, when they do that, it's the individual doing that, and that group isn't representative of all Christians!"

And that brings me back to a often mentioned observation I point out...

That's the "beauty" of the "No True Christian™" fallacy.

Only people who do nothing wrong at all are called Christian — by Christians — and those who do wrong are not Christian, no matter if the person who does something illegal, wrong or less than exemplary says they are a Christian.

It's a disingenuous claim by "Christians" who utilize the fallacy(obviously), and very convenient. When a Christian does something that casts a bad light on Christianity, they just say those people who presented a negative view of Christianity aren't real Christians and the problem is solved, no?

It's good people are standing up and pointing out these flaws in Christianity and exposing that type of "No True Christian™" thinking as disingenuous and fallacious.

The - "No True Christian™" - fallacy points to there being far less Christians in the nation than statistics say there are, meaning the US isn't a "Christian Country", if we allow Christians to make the "No true Christian", assertion, nor has it ever been. <(chuckle)>

We know that is protested, however, by all Christians, true Christians or not, and suddenly every Christian a Christian could get to say they are a Christian would indeed be a Christian...~/.

This is the rule: The only "Real Christian™" is the one you happen to be talking to at the moment, and they'll tell you who isn't, a "Real Christian™".

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#595355 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
If an American commits a crime, does it taint all Americans?
After all, we all belong to a society that is governed by laws which are in large part a reflection of our morality
So if an individual fails to live up to what is expected of him, which is to follow the laws of the land, does that taint America and its citizens? Or is it simply an example of an individual acting of his own accord where he is the only person his actions reflect on?
The USA government incarcerates and fines chriminals instead of patting them on the back and telling them to continue to commit crimes.
Much different than Christianity.

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#595356 Sep 25, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
<quoted text>
I will step up just once more here. I tried to reach out to you on the friends thread and you never extended a reply. You did however extrend a reply to another poster. You always addressed me as lil whiskers not lil whispers. I took that as a poke from you. When I see this in posters I tend to just leave them alone as know they decided what they want. I could have accepted you just as you were but you did not want that by not only your actions but your words.
I can inspite of all of this wish you the best life has to offer whether you stay or move one.
.. my apology Lil. I've not visited that thread for some time because of time constraints. This was the only forum I visited yesterday. Please do not take it personal, I did not mean to offend you ..

“MEET ROSEMARY-She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#595357 Sep 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Does anyone reading along need me to respond to this?
I'm trying not to be mean, but...
.. and, Spock wept ..

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#595358 Sep 25, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Shit Scar...My entire existence here has been an existance of "staying up too late". LOL! But "he I is!" anaways...
It ended up dropping buckets of rain here today.

You poor bastards are stuck with me this day, it seems.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#595359 Sep 25, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>If you really want to know the answer and not just look to point the finger at religion you will research and discover Al Queda is a political movement disguised as a religious one. But that is not the message they teach the grunts.....
What makes AlQueda reflect on Islam is that the rest of Islam does not denounce them and their actions.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#595360 Sep 25, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah.
It's the same in the military. The actions of one affects the entire platoon, unit, etc... Those actions of the few directly speak to the whole.
And so it is with any organization, company, government and so forth.
It's often said right here on this thread by Christians that this is a Christian country. It's said when someone not Christian states Christianity is in decline that we're ridiculous, and that Christianity grows. It's said that no matter the belief set, sect denomination or way of belief, Christianity is united.
They'll point to the positive actions of one Christian or a few, and say something similar to:
"See?.. that is a Christian, look at what Christians do, that is Christianity!"
Until it comes time to accept that some members of Christianity do things or exhibit behavior that Christianity should rightly be ashamed of, and exhibits some very bad effects that Christianity does produce, then it'll be said:
"OH!.. NO!... Those are individuals, when they do that, it's the individual doing that, and that group isn't representative of all Christians!"
And that brings me back to a often mentioned observation I point out...
That's the "beauty" of the "No True Christian™" fallacy.
Only people who do nothing wrong at all are called Christian — by Christians — and those who do wrong are not Christian, no matter if the person who does something illegal, wrong or less than exemplary says they are a Christian.
It's a disingenuous claim by "Christians" who utilize the fallacy(obviously), and very convenient. When a Christian does something that casts a bad light on Christianity, they just say those people who presented a negative view of Christianity aren't real Christians and the problem is solved, no?
It's good people are standing up and pointing out these flaws in Christianity and exposing that type of "No True Christian™" thinking as disingenuous and fallacious.
The - "No True Christian™" - fallacy points to there being far less Christians in the nation than statistics say there are, meaning the US isn't a "Christian Country", if we allow Christians to make the "No true Christian", assertion, nor has it ever been. <(chuckle)>
We know that is protested, however, by all Christians, true Christians or not, and suddenly every Christian a Christian could get to say they are a Christian would indeed be a Christian...~/.
This is the rule: The only "Real Christian™" is the one you happen to be talking to at the moment, and they'll tell you who isn't, a "Real Christian™".
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