Since: Mar 09

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#595231 Sep 24, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quotedI text>
If you think there is such a thing as peace, you are a fool of your own folly.
I am asking in complete sincerity when I ask if everything is ok?

You seem pretty upset friend and I am guessing Topix may not be the reason

I'm heading home in about an hour. If you want to bounce anything off me by t-mail feel free

Hope all is well

(T) Peace

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#595232 Sep 24, 2013
scaritual wrote:
And the dreaded letter avalanche.
http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg601/sca...
Have you met Mr. X?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#595233 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>The only way I "changed" the question was to add the specific scenario in which you made your statement
You judged that the actions of someone on Topix tainted Christianity. I understand why you wouldn't line that as it simply highlights the absurdity even more
And you were not judging him based on an official ideology so this is all just red herring filler. Although I could debunk that just the same. But for now I'm going to stick to the exact situation we were talking about which you still have refused to address.
A specific poster who is a Christian gave his personal view. Please explain how that taints hundred of millions of people or Christianity on general? Do you have any knowledge that hundreds of millions of people share that exact same view zoned that they were taught it by the Christian faith because it is an official teaching?
If bit you are simple engaging in stereotyping and bigotry
As for my posts, please provide any where I denigrate anyone for being Mexican. Am I culturally biased? Sure. I prefer the lifestyle and customs of America. So what? That's not bigotry. That's personal preference. Is someone being bigoted towards America if they say the show Honey Boo Boo is trash? Reality TV is a part of our culture
It's simple. You have a religious text. Christians have a religious text. Without that text there would be no Christians.

Christians claim to follow the precepts and teachings said to be contained in that religious book. When a Christian, does something or says something that does not adhere to the outlines in that book, it reflects upon all of Christianity.

What I pointed out is not one singular aberration, confined to one individual. It is seen thousands of times a day, throughout Christianity, by the individual members of Christianity.

It's no different when a football player or players for a team, or the coaching staff of a football team is caught doing something against the rules or standards set by the organization or governing body.

It reflects upon the entire organization >and< the individuals that caused that to be.

The problems within Catholicism and Protestantism in regards to child abuse and abuse are perfect examples of that.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#595234 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Im not exactly sure what we are talking about here BT
I think you may have misread my post
Or I simply am not seeing the connection you are making
My post was about not judging a group of people based on the actions of one member of the group acting on his personal feelings and not a shared group ideology.
What exactly are the specifics of the scenario you described and how are you applying that to the point I was making about not stereotyping? It sounds like you are talking about a very specific one on one confrontation in battle. I would agree anything besides addressing the immediate threat would be irrelevant. I'm just not sure how these posts are connected
Ya...I may have misinterpreted your meaning....
BUT...I have given relative response to actuality...and you KNOW it.
It is what it is...and I live by it.
Simple as that....still
HipGnozizzz

Altona, IL

#595235 Sep 24, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
I was pretty good with your post until you came to "Paul".
At that time I lost all respect for any more rhetoric you may have posited.
Well it'll take me a awhile to get over my dismay, but I still have to ask,

does Paul tell his followers they must set an example or does he not?

Rhetorical question.

Why would you have a problem with pointing that out?

Since: Mar 09

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#595236 Sep 24, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>

We can look at RR and his racism and see how that taints all Christians. It's obvious. Why? because that is something many Christians do, is example racism, and RR's evidencing that racism only goes to confirm what is known, and seen within Christianity.e.
Do you even understand how preposterous this is?

A lot of people with brown hair are racist too. Dies that taint all people with brown hair?

Can you show me where RR's racism is a bi-product of his Christian beliefs? Then can you show me that he learned that as an official teaching of the faith?

You have used an example of someone who is racist that just so happens also happens to be a male, Christian, father and any other dozens of classifications he might fall into

There is no connection between his racism and Christianity other than your bigotry towards Christianity

That's kinda ironic. Or at least it should be.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#595237 Sep 24, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
The last comment you make is what truly reveals your mind.
<quoted text>
There is that outstanding example of the Christian mentality.
It's Christians like you that taint the rest of Christianity.
Really? I hope I tainted it enough to keep the likes of you out of it. That would be a great accomplishment.

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#595238 Sep 24, 2013
I died briefly earlier today and woke at the pearly gates, where I was taken to a room in front of St. Peter. There was a clock on the wall it was at 12:00.
I asked if this what what time it is? To which he replied ..."No this is your lie meter, so that you can be judged, by how many lies you told and the more lies you told,the more it turns .
Everyone has a meter of their lies here, and all will be judged by it."

He then said, "you did pretty good, so good in fact we will send you back to complete your days on Earth"

I said really? Thanks, I will live the rest of my days as honestly as possible, so that everyone know me as a good man.

But.....

I then asked everyone has one?

He replied, "Yes everyone has one"

I said, I want to see Obama's, to see how truthful he is.

He said......

"Oh that one is locked up in the big bosses , because it's special!"

I asked,well whats so special about Obama's lie meter.

He replied...

" The Big Boss keeps it on the ceiling in his office."

A asked him but why does he keep Obama's
meter in his office.

He replied... "because that thing is spinning so
damn fast...
The Boss is using it for a ceiling fan!"

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#595239 Sep 24, 2013
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
It's simple. You have a religious text. Christians have a religious text. Without that text there would be no Christians.
Christians claim to follow the precepts and teachings said to be contained in that religious book. When a Christian, does something or says something that does not adhere to the outlines in that book, it reflects upon all of Christianity.
What I pointed out is not one singular aberration, confined to one individual. It is seen thousands of times a day, throughout Christianity, by the individual members of Christianity.
It's no different when a football player or players for a team, or the coaching staff of a football team is caught doing something against the rules or standards set by the organization or governing body.
It reflects upon the entire organization >and< the individuals that caused that to be.
The problems within Catholicism and Protestantism in regards to child abuse and abuse are perfect examples of that.
The fact that people broad-brush, stereotype, engage in bigotry, make people guilty by association, blame organizations for individual failings, etc may be a reality. That doesn't mean it's right. And to defend its practice is just wrong.

You are essentially saying its ok people are ignorant and others should acquiesce to fit their expecting to help ensure they don't have an excuse for their bigotry

When the twin towers were attacked, to many all Muslins became the enemy, even ones totally loyal to the United States. The reality is that is what the reaction was. But was it right?

According to your logic, it would be absolutely justified

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#595240 Sep 24, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Does anyone reading along need me to respond to this?
I'm trying not to be mean, but...
I don't care if you are "mean". Means nothing to me. I'm going to respond back to you as I choose. so---write you write writer.

Since: Mar 10

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#595241 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Annie
Nobody is trying to drag you into anything
You voluntarily entered when you made misleading posts
I simply added the omitted information to give people a clearer understanding
Its not like you to claim information you read and not source it
If you didn't get the information from where I said, then I will let you source your own posts. I can however link the ones I read saying exactly what you said from a real state company if you really need me too
But we both know where it came from
What are you implying Annie's agenda was in posting some info regarding Mexico?
You seem to be grasping at straws here in an attempt to ,yet again, spin
and discredit someone you perceive to not be on "your side".

I will ask again.. Have you ever vacationed in Mexico?

And here's a couple questions : you truly do not believe your behavior on this thread
does not impact others thoughts regarding Christianity? You think your slander on here
and your obsession w topix
doesn't make
people wonder what monster resides in that heart of yours?

You find yourself exempt from practicing human decency.. Forgiven ?
You can be as hateful as you choose to be?
And you -laugh out loud - all the while?

Is this what Christ has done for you?

Since: Mar 09

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#595242 Sep 24, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya...I may have misinterpreted your meaning....
BUT...I have given relative response to actuality...and you KNOW it.
It is what it is...and I live by it.
Simple as that....still
Well yeah I certainly agree that if someone poses a threat to me I don't give a damn about their affiliations or anything else other than neutralizing the threat.

I'm just glad to know we kinda had two different things going in there for a minute as it appeared I had offended but didn't know how

It's all good

(T) Peace

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#595243 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Im not exactly sure what we are talking about here BT
I think you may have misread my post
Or I simply am not seeing the connection you are making
My post was about not judging a group of people based on the actions of one member of the group acting on his personal feelings and not a shared group ideology.
What exactly are the specifics of the scenario you described and how are you applying that to the point I was making about not stereotyping? It sounds like you are talking about a very specific one on one confrontation in battle. I would agree anything besides addressing the immediate threat would be irrelevant. I'm just not sure how these posts are connected
Oh Skom. it is not based in concern with you personally. It is based in anyone who would have the audacity to personally threaten me. I have been on that razor many times, and as you see, I am still here. I have no fear...been there done that... Yes...I was speaking of any one on one confrontation...and I will gladly welcome any challengers. I guess you may have given me the opportunity to make it available ...I may be "old", but I am still quite "deadly".
Anyone who wishes to try me is more than welcome...just PM me.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#595244 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>heh
"Billboard credible"
For some that has become an oxymoron
Considering the faux nature of the billboard, that not too far off. But to me the writings only have to do with this billboard. So then there is some credibility responding to another writing. At least respond to the point.

“Why does my ignorance”

Since: Mar 11

justify your deity?

#595245 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Does a politician who is literally called a representative make all his constituents look bad when he does something wrong even though they had no foreknowledge of his actions and many may not approve?
They're asked to resign if they represent their party in socially unacceptable ways.
Whether it is race, religion, government, etc the rules don't change. We all answer for our own actions. And nobody else does.
You're correct here in that we need to hold religion to a higher standard. We cannot allow for adults claiming that myths and miracles are objectively real phenomena - that's like claiming the Easter Bunny, unicorns or sorcery are real.

It's harmful to children and weakens the education system to allow fairy tails to be taken seriously just because someone says "it's my religion."
Skombolis wrote:
Am I culturally biased? Sure. I prefer the lifestyle and customs of America.
It's not a preference thing. You don't really have a choice, having had your brain develop there.

Since: Mar 09

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#595246 Sep 24, 2013
If an American commits a crime, does it taint all Americans?

After all, we all belong to a society that is governed by laws which are in large part a reflection of our morality

So if an individual fails to live up to what is expected of him, which is to follow the laws of the land, does that taint America and its citizens? Or is it simply an example of an individual acting of his own accord where he is the only person his actions reflect on?

“God of War”

Since: Dec 10

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#595247 Sep 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Killing civilians is murder, justifying it doesn't change that fact.
Nope, but it maybe morally wrong, and murder is a crime only when it is illegal. It doesn't have to be just, but I agree it should be, and only be done in just cause.

Murder is unlawful killing.

"Self-defense: acting in self-defense or in defense of another person is generally accepted as legal justification for killing a person in situations that would otherwise have been murder. However, a self-defense killing might be considered manslaughter if the killer established control of the situation before the killing took place. In the case of self-defense it is called a "justifiable homicide".[9]
Unlawful killings without malice or intent are considered manslaughter.
In many common law countries, provocation is a partial defense to a charge of murder which acts by converting what would otherwise have been murder into manslaughter (this is voluntary manslaughter, which is more severe than involuntary manslaughter)
Accidental killings are considered homicides. Depending on the circumstances, these may or may not be considered criminal offenses; they are often considered manslaughter.
Suicide is not considered murder in most societies. Assisting a suicide, however, may be considered murder in some circumstances.
Killing of enemy combatants by lawful combatants in accordance with lawful orders in war, although illicit killings within a war may constitute murder or homicidal war crimes."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder#Exclusion...

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#595248 Sep 24, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh Skom. it is not based in concern with you personally. It is based in anyone who would have the audacity to personally threaten me. I have been on that razor many times, and as you see, I am still here. I have no fear...been there done that... Yes...I was speaking of any one on one confrontation...and I will gladly welcome any challengers. I guess you may have given me the opportunity to make it available ...I may be "old", but I am still quite "deadly".
Anyone who wishes to try me is more than welcome...just PM me.
I am sure you are still quite capable friend

I don't think anyone is looking to test that

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#595249 Sep 24, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>I am asking in complete sincerity when I ask if everything is ok?
You seem pretty upset friend and I am guessing Topix may not be the reason
I'm heading home in about an hour. If you want to bounce anything off me by t-mail feel free
Hope all is well
(T) Peace
No Skom. I am fine. Not to worry. I do have my moments of test, but not one I know of has ever been able to conquer that moment as of yet. LOL! Thank you for your solace my friend. You do have an affinity for such things...it is quite obvious...and thank you for bringing it to my attention...I will take it into consideration(only because it came from you). You are a "friend" in many ways. You can take that from a "heathen" as truth.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#595250 Sep 24, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. correct - throw tantrum, insult and claim victory. It's the infinite donut ..
<quoted text>
.. are you referring to logic and dignified debate? If so, you're chasing Dorothy's rainbow because Trifecta, Skom and Dr. Shrink are morally, spirituality and intellectually bankrupt ..
<quoted text>
.. the Big 3 will continue their character assassinate. Like myself, Catcher ignores Skom's constant fabrications and outright lies, Trifecta waves his pom-poms and Dr. Shrink farts. The Three Musketeers ..
<quoted text>
.. accede? They're going to feel justified no matter what you write about the pitfalls of religion; they carry on the inquisitions with words instead of swords ..
.. you cannot control what they write, their intellectual dishonesty or who they decide to confront ..
.. because Annie agreed with me, she suffered the "Wrath of Skom." Decent Christians on this thread do not hunger for such treatment so, basically, they've surrendered this thread to the idiocy of the Big 3 ..
.. Tide, Scar, Catcher and a few others could help you in your quest but if the Big 3 are unwilling to education themselves, to act civilly, it's a futile exercise ..
.. if everyone ignores the Big 3, perhaps we can experience civil debate with folks like Epi, BT, Annie, Ben or Lil Whispers ..
.. when it comes to the sacred religions of the ancients, few people realize how much knowledge BT, Ben and myself have. They never ask because they're not interested in how Christianity evolved from earlier religious systems and they'll will never read a book like SECRET TEACHINGS OF ALL AGES by Manley Hall ..
.. I know you are a physician, that Catcher is a Harvard Law School graduate and that HFY is studying for her Ph.d. The Big 3 want to believe they're better than you because they have Jesus ..
.. from Day 1, Christians in this forum have pegged me as an atheist. You, Catcher and HFY know they're wrong yet you supported me because of your high moral code and ability to allow me to find my own spiritual system ..
.. in order to accomplish our goal, the Big 3 must be ignored ..
.. Catcher has asked me to try one last time but if the character assassinations, lies and contemptible psychological profiling continues, I'm out of here ..
Bye! lol.

But you writing worth a response.

If you not an atheist---good for you.

Well you can ignore my writing and go have discussions "with folks like Epi, BT, Annie, Ben or Lil Whispers"

What's stopping you? you should have done that long time. Maybe you can't because I and other more assertive Christians writings bother the heck out of you.

"The Wrath of Skom"??? lol. Sound like a bad science experiment.

"you cannot control what they write...or who they decide to confront .." Well stated. The quicker you other cohorts learn that--the better.

"They're going to feel justified no matter what you write" yes yes. again correct.

"If so, you're chasing Dorothy's rainbow..." oy!lol! you now only realizing that? But why you tell "it aint necessarily so"? I want him to keep chasing the rainbow. There is a deep pit at the end of that rainbow ready for him. Tell him keep chasing.

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