Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“"None shall pass"”

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#594902 Sep 24, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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This usage of the phrase "the church" seems to elude the Christians. It's a continual stumbling block for them. But since communicating with such people isn't the purpose of any post, it's not an issue.
It has been one of the many words the meaning of which gets changed on the fly to fit whatever one needs it to mean.

My point is that Christianity is NOT based on what the Bible says but on 1700 years of what religious leaders CLAIM it means.

No person could simply read the Bible on their own and come to a single one of the conclusions that are espoused by Christianity.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#594903 Sep 24, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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The problem there is obvious: All you have to do to convince a believer that something is moral is to convince them that it is the god's will.....
That has occurred constantly over the last 1700 years to justify murder, torture and genocide.

The History of Christianity itself proves it is a failed moral system.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#594904 Sep 24, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Never tried, LOL. But that reminds me of this song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =q8ljHOSqc4AXX
Tori Amos is wonderful. If I could sell my soul to the Devil..... LOL

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#594905 Sep 24, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
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I am Little whispers frenny....
Now you have done it lol. You going to have to set a skunk booby trap and lace it with a cabbage head. But my frenny can I ask what you going to do with it once you catch it. Oh no you don't, I know what your thinking share with lil whispers. Nagative lol lol
I already got enough raskel pets at my place.

“what are you talking about you”

Since: Mar 11

schlappington, by god

#594906 Sep 24, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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........ it's time the decent folk on this thread awoke from their slumber and realize the damage caused in the name of Christianity ..
*rolls i's*
http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-ap...

yuns bettur off stikin two likin' verginers
www.thereligionofpeace.com
frig my lifes

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#594907 Sep 24, 2013
Wisconsin Sikh Temple massacre, Aug. 5, 2012. The virulent, neocon-fueled Islamophobia that has plagued post-9/11 America has not only posed a threat to Muslims, it has had deadly consequences for people of other faiths, including Sikhs. Sikhs are not Muslims; the traditional Sikh attire, including their turbans, is different from traditional Sunni, Shiite or Sufi attire. But to a racist, a bearded Sikh looks like a Muslim. Only four days after 9/11, Balbir Singh Sodhi, a Sikh immigrant from India who owned a gas station in Mesa, Arizona, was murdered by Frank Silva Roque, a racist who obviously mistook him for a Muslim.

But Sodhi’s murder was not the last example of anti-Sikh violence in post-9/11 America. On Aug. 5, 2012, white supremacist Wade Michael Page used a semiautomatic weapon to murder six people during an attack on a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin. Page’s connection to the white supremacist movement was well-documented: he had been a member of the neo-Nazi rock bands End Empathy and Definite Hate. Attorney General Eric Holder described the attack as “an act of terrorism, an act of hatred.” It was good to see the nation’s top cop acknowledge that terrorist acts can, in fact, involve white males murdering people of color.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594908 Sep 24, 2013
The murder of Dr. George Tiller, May 31, 2009. Imagine that a physician had been the victim of an attempted assassination by an Islamic jihadist in 1993, and received numerous death threats from al-Qaeda after that, before being murdered by an al-Qaeda member. Neocons, Fox News and the Christian Right would have had a field day. A physician was the victim of a terrorist killing that day, but neither the terrorist nor the people who inflamed the terrorist were Muslims. Dr. George Tiller, who was shot and killed by anti-abortion terrorist Scott Roeder on May 31, 2009, was a victim of Christian Right terrorism, not al-Qaeda.

Tiller had a long history of being targeted for violence by Christian Right terrorists. In 1986, his clinic was firebombed. Then, in 1993, Tiller was shot five times by female Christian Right terrorist Shelly Shannon (now serving time in a federal prison) but survived that attack. Given that Tiller had been the victim of an attempted murder and received countless death threats after that, Fox News would have done well to avoid fanning the flames of unrest. Instead, Bill O’Reilly repeatedly referred to him as “Tiller the baby killer." When Roeder murdered Tiller, O’Reilly condemned the attack but did so in a way that was lukewarm at best.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594909 Sep 24, 2013
Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church shooting, July 27, 2008. On July 27, 2008, Christian Right sympathizer Jim David Adkisson walked into the Knoxville Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee during a children’s play and began shooting people at random. Two were killed, while seven others were injured but survived. Adkisson said he was motivated by a hatred of liberals, Democrats and gays, and he considered neocon Bernard Goldberg’s book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America, his political manifesto. Adkisson (who pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder and is now serving life in prison without parole) was vehemently anti-abortion, but apparently committing an act of terrorism during a children’s play was good ol’ Republican family values. While Adkisson’s act of terrorism was reported on Fox News, it didn't get the round-the-clock coverage an act of Islamic terrorism would have garnered.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594910 Sep 24, 2013
The murder of Dr. John Britton, July 29, 1994. To hear the Christian Right tell it, there is no such thing as Christian terrorism. Tell that to the victims of the Army of God, a loose network of radical Christianists with a long history of terrorist attacks on abortion providers. One Christian Right terrorist with ties to the Army of God was Paul Jennings Hill, who was executed by lethal injection on Sept. 3, 2003 for the murders of abortion doctor John Britton and his bodyguard James Barrett. Hill shot both of them in cold blood and expressed no remorse whatsoever; he insisted he was doing’s God’s work and has been exalted as a martyr by the Army of God.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594911 Sep 24, 2013
The Centennial Olympic Park bombing, July 27, 1996. Paul Jennings Hill is hardly the only Christian terrorist who has been praised by the Army of God; that organization has also praised Eric Rudolph, who is serving life without parole for a long list of terrorist attacks committed in the name of Christianity. Rudolph is best known for carrying out the Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta during the 1996 Summer Olympics—a blast that killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Hawthorne wasn’t the only person Rudolph murdered: his bombing of an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama in 1998 caused the death of Robert Sanderson (a Birmingham police officer and part-time security guard) and caused nurse Emily Lyons to lose an eye.

Rudolph’s other acts of Christian terrorism include bombing the Otherwise Lounge (a lesbian bar in Atlanta) in 1997 and an abortion clinic in an Atlanta suburb in 1997. Rudolph was no lone wolf: he was part of a terrorist movement that encouraged his violence. And the Army of God continues to exalt Rudolph as a brave Christian who is doing God’s work.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594912 Sep 24, 2013
The murder of Barnett Slepian by James Charles Kopp, Oct. 23, 1998. Like Paul Jennings Hill, Eric Rudolph and Scott Roeder, James Charles Kopp is a radical Christian terrorist who has been exalted as a hero by the Army of God. On Oct. 23, 1998 Kopp fired a single shot into the Amherst, NY home of Barnett Slepian (a doctor who performed abortions), mortally wounding him. Slepian died an hour later. Kopp later claimed he only meant to wound Slepian, not kill him. But Judge Michael D'Amico of Erin County, NY said that the killing was clearly premeditated and sentenced Kopp to 25 years to life. Kopp is a suspect in other anti-abortion terrorist attacks, including the non-fatal shootings of three doctors in Canada, though it appears unlikely that Kopp will be extradited to Canada to face any charges.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594913 Sep 24, 2013
Planned Parenthood bombing, Brookline, Massachusetts, 1994. Seldom has the term “Christian terrorist” been used in connection with John C. Salvi on AM talk radio or at Fox News, but it’s a term that easily applies to him. In 1994, the radical anti-abortionist and Army of God member attacked a Planned Parenthood clinic in Brookline, Massachusetts, shooting and killing receptionists Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols and wounding several others. Salvi was found dead in his prison cell in 1996, and his death was ruled a suicide. The Army of God has exalted Salvi as a Christian martyr and described Lowney and Nichols not as victims of domestic terrorism, but as infidels who got what they deserved. The Rev. Donald Spitz, a Christianist and Army of God supporter who is so extreme that even the radical anti-abortion group Operation Rescue disassociated itself from him, has praised Salvi as well.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594914 Sep 24, 2013
Suicide attack on IRS building in Austin, Texas, Feb. 18, 2010. When Joseph Stack flew a plane into the Echelon office complex (where an IRS office was located), Fox News’ coverage of the incident was calm and matter-of-fact. Republican Rep. Steve King of Iowa seemed to find the attack amusing and joked that it could have been avoided if the federal government had followed his advice and abolished the IRS. Nonetheless, there were two fatalities: Stack and IRS employee Vernon Hunter. Stack left behind a rambling suicide note outlining his reasons for the attack, which included a disdain for the IRS as well as total disgust with health insurance companies and bank bailouts. Some of the most insightful coverage of the incident came from Noam Chomsky, who said that while Stack had some legitimate grievances—millions of Americans shared his outrage over bank bailouts and the practices of health insurance companies—the way he expressed them was absolutely wrong.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594915 Sep 24, 2013
The murder of Alan Berg, June 18, 1984. One of the most absurd claims some Republicans have made about white supremacists is that they are liberals and progressives. That claim is especially ludicrous in light of the terrorist killing of liberal Denver-based talk show host Alan Berg, a critic of white supremacists who was killed with an automatic weapon on June 18, 1984. The killing was linked to members of the Order, a white supremacist group that had marked Berg for death. Order members David Lane (a former Ku Klux Klan member who had also been active in the Aryan Nations) and Bruce Pierce were both convicted in federal court on charges of racketeering, conspiracy and violating Berg’s civil rights and given what amounted to life sentences.

Robert Matthews, who founded the Order, got that name from a fictional group in white supremacist William Luther Pierce’s anti-Semitic 1978 novel, The Turner Diaries—a book Timothy McVeigh was quite fond of. The novel’s fictional account of the destruction of a government building has been described as the inspiration for the Oklahoma City bombing of 1995.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594916 Sep 24, 2013
Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City bombing, April 19, 1995. Neocons and Republicans grow angry and uncomfortable whenever Timothy McVeigh is cited as an example of a non-Islamic terrorist. Pointing out that a non-Muslim white male carried out an attack as vicious and deadly as the Oklahoma City bombing doesn’t fit into their narrative that only Muslims and people of color are capable of carrying out terrorist attacks. Neocons will claim that bringing up McVeigh’s name during a discussion of terrorism is a “red herring” that distracts us from fighting radical Islamists, but that downplays the cruel, destructive nature of the attack.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594917 Sep 24, 2013
"Kill for Jesus!"

Christian terrorism is alive and well in North America.

Brag on God!

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#594918 Sep 24, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
"Kill for Jesus!"
Christian terrorism is alive and well in North America.
Brag on God!
Woo see you awoke in a bad mood. Go back to bed and get up on the other side. lol Life will look much roser for ya.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

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#594919 Sep 24, 2013
You're jealous and bitter because I'm young? Your personality guesses are infantile and stupid. No one not making you waste whatever few days you have left on this earth arguing with made up internet personas online. Don't blame me because you're Old. There is absolutely no way I would quiver and shiver into an obsolete dead carcass existence when I'm old arguing with people that by free choice have chosen their religion. You and internet personas like "it aint necessarily so" get demeaned because your reasoning and intellect is slow and stupid and you choose to argue with people that are intellectually better than you. You and him will continue to get demeaned because you choose to do an activity every day that begs for you to be demeaned. I will do so gladly.
[QUOTE who="Happy Lesbo"]<quoted text>
.. you, Skom and Dr. Shrink all suffer from arrested development. Your neotenic posts contain personality traits found in 6-12 year-olds with poor coping skills. It's the very reason you seek and believe in a supernatural Force that will never forsake or abandon you ..
.. instead of acting like mature adults, you demean others and usually end up in trouble, even in prison ..
.. you use religion to gain allies in your quest for vengeance against some unseen enemy and, like many shamed clerics, you do not believe societal rules apply to you ..
.. good people who believe in a Power greater than self are snookered in by folks like you; an internet version of Ted Haggard, David Koresh or Pat Robertson ..
.. it's time the decent folk on this thread awoke from their slumber and realize the damage caused in the name of Christianity ..
I no care what you think about Christianity. Long after you and that Yosemite Clown is dead Christianity will be alive and well. Your opinions about Christianity are worthless. No one not forcing you to become a Christian---you can go die believing an tooth fairy made you and Planet Spock fly over the Earth and drop you from the sky into whatever house and wherever you grow up. That your business--no one cares.

I no have any quest for vengeance on this fantasy site. Unlike you I know this site is all make believe and have no consequence to offline life. Is your stupidity and childish fantasy why you link this fake site to anyone going to no jail or societal rules. The only thing matter on here is Topix Internet Rules.

Maybe instead using your last few remaining days turning into an old cranky shriveled up lonely existence of a fantasy made up persona on a site which might as well be a video game--maybe you can [awake]from that wasteful experience and live out your days offline behind this fantasy billboard smelling the roses, have a walk in the park, visiting a mall, take a trip, visiting friends, family, loved ones. And if you don't have none of those--find a community of senior folks either in a nursing home or other establishment where the company of people are of like mind, face to face, body to body, eye to eye contact that enhances the human experiences instead of sitting at your computer slowing dying arguing with made up inter personas about their religion that you can't Change.

Stupid woman.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594920 Sep 24, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Woo see you awoke in a bad mood. Go back to bed and get up on the other side. lol Life will look much roser for ya.
I am not in a bad mood.

Sorry the truth offends you.

“"None shall pass"”

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#594921 Sep 24, 2013
More Christian terrorism:

In March 2006, for example, six members of the Nation’s Knights of the Ku Klux Klan pleaded guilty to a variety of weapons and conspiracy charges in connection with an illegal gun trading scheme in the early 2000s to finance a plan to blow up the Johnston County, North Carolina, courthouse.

In August 2005, North Georgia White Knights member Daniel James Schertz pleaded guilty to building pipe bombs designed to blow up buses carrying Mexican and Haitian migrant workers from Tennessee to Florida. In November 2005, he received a 170-month federal prison sentence.

In 2003, Pennsylvania Klan leader David Hull was convicted of a variety of illegal weapons charges in connection with an alleged plot to use hand grenades to attack abortion clinics; he also allegedly told an informant that he had turned his car into a “suicide bomb on wheels.”

In 1997, in one of the more spectacular cases, three Klansmen and a Klanswoman—Edward Taylor, Jr., Shawn Dee Adams, Catherine Dee Adams, and Carl Waskom, Jr.—were arrested for plotting a series of terrorist acts in north Texas, including an attack on a natural gas processing plant. This would merely serve as a diversion for a $2 million armored car robbery designed to finance further acts. While surveilling the natural gas refinery, Klan members noticed children nearby and realized they would be likely victims of a blast.“But if it has to be,” Catherine Dee Adams said, in words caught on tape,“I hate to be that way, but if it has to be…” However, because another Klan member had reservations and alerted the police, the plot was foiled before it could be carried out. The four were arrested in April 1997 and eventually pleaded guilty to a variety of charges.

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