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Harm is dependent on the individual circumstances surrounding each manifestation. The victim's "race" may be a deciding correlative factor, but not a causative one.
In the context of pre-Civil War America, one "white" man could come across two "black" men, one free, and one a slave, and say the same thing to both of them, and cause a different level of harm to each, the slave likely feeling more harm than the free man. They are both "black", but one is clearly more disadvantaged. It is only natural to assume that being reminded of that status is different than being reminded of a slightly better status. The free man may feel some comfort in knowing, "At least I'm not still a slave, so I can withstand this more now."
(I use "manifestation" because racism can also manifest as inaction, in case you were wondering)
I present the possibility that different groups, and further, each individual, respond differently to the exact same stimulus.
I have not once been harmed in any notable way by racism, personally. Most people in the hegemonic probably feel the same way. Most minority group members probably feel as though they have been harmed by racism several times, if not continually.
Racism is intolerance and prejudice based on a thing called "race".
Manifestations of racism could come in the form of hate speech or hate bombs. I think hate bombs would be worse.
Not-racism is always preferable to racism. That can be a moral judgement. The manifestations need to be judged individually, or at least based on a standard that takes into account important distinctions between them.
I don't think we disagree on much. The communication has been less than perfect.
I would imagine past experience, current status, the specific act, and result would be the four indicators
If someone has been hurt prior, their threshold for it will be lower
If an insult due to status hits home than it will probably cause more harm than to someone it doesn't apply to
Although the last two are the ones i find similar. Say someone gets in your face and calls you a racist name. Regardless of what someone has experienced prior they might feel threatened. So the act and the result would be the same
I guess the question then would extend to the cumulative effect
Perhaps it might be more accurate to say while individual acts may be equal in harm, providing the result is the same, it is the cumulative effect of past abuse and its effect that would determine the overall harm?
I agree its a complicated issue as far as quantifying
And we share the same goal of wanting to see all racism gone
I'm glad we talked it out
Some issues should go beyond the usual Topix barriers. They are too important not to.