Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#577661 Aug 23, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I fit under the banner "everyone who believeth" :)
:)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#577662 Aug 23, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
Puff Piece # 666 - GHS

Christianity cannot erase man's need for pleasure, nor can it eradicate the various sources of pleasure. What it can do, however, and what it has been extremely effective in accomplishing, is to inculcate guilt in connection with pleasure. The pursuit of pleasure, when accompanied by guilt, becomes a means of perpetuating chronic guilt, and this serves to reinforce one's dependence on God.

Christianity, with some exceptions, has never explicitly advocated human misery; it prefers instead to speak of sacrifices in this life so that benefits may be garnered in the life to come. One invests in this life, so to speak, and collects interest in the next. Fortunately for Christianity, the dead cannot return for a refund.

Through inculcating the notion that sacrifice is a virtue, Christianity has succeeded in convincing many people that misery incurred through sacrifice is a mark of virtue. Pain becomes the insignia of morality - and conversely, pleasure becomes the insignia of immorality. Christianity, therefore, does not say, "Go forth and be miserable". Rather, it says, "Go forth and
practice the virtue of self-sacrifice".

In practical terms, these commands are identical.

In exchange for obedience, Christianity promises salvation in an afterlife; but in order to elicit obedience through this promise, Christianity must
convince men that they need salvation, that there is something to be saved from.

Christianity has nothing to offer a happy man living in a natural, intelligible universe.

If Christianity is to gain a motivational foothold, it must declare war on earthly pleasure and happiness, and this, historically, has been its precise course of action.

In the eyes of Christianity, man is sinful and helpless in the face of God, and is potential fuel for the flames of hell. Just as Christianity must destroy reason before it can introduce faith, so it must destroy happiness before it can introduce salvation.

I am Imhotep® and I approve this post.
I too approve this post.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#577663 Aug 23, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>wear women monthly period diapers, because soon you geet leaks and s...flashes to your pants

but try to feel good, dr Shrink 12 times a day pray for your wrecked old consumed by Aids AND DRUGS dead body?
speechless

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#577664 Aug 23, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>Religious nonsense, men do not have and have never had the lifespan of trees.
The ents do.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#577665 Aug 23, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text> http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

I feel like I should wear a lab coat when I'm here.
Then shower when you leave.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#577666 Aug 23, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>Me either!

I'm from Inobtainium, just left of Wendy's .

I hate my supervisor. Behind her desk it says.‘You don’t have to be mad to work on Earth but it helps.‘ Mind you, she’s written it in her own crap!

”A lot of Christians wear crosses around their necks. Do you think when Jesus comes back he ever wants to see a fuckin’ cross? It’s kind of like going up to Jackie Onassis with a rifle pendant on.”
- Bill Hicks (read Bill Hicks Comedy God)

;)
lol

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

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#577667 Aug 23, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Most cristers I see here are nothing more than wannabe gods.
Their words and acts will surely NOT place them in the "heaven" they would believe they have secured.
All one has to is read the posts and compare them to the "narrow path".
Nuff said..
...But you won't make that call :) nuff said.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#577668 Aug 23, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>And I knew it even at the time. I was, I think, about 15.
Storytellers are what we used before radio. They'd go from house to house, get fed and put up, and even paid money in trade for stories and history.
That would be an awesome job
Imhotep

Windermere, FL

#577669 Aug 23, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>A Spiritual high is an amazing feeling....
So is white widow!
Truly amazing

Remember... your God made Marijuana and man made alcohol... think I might trust your guy on that! Is the only thing he's gotten right! ;)

“Romans 8:1.”

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#577670 Aug 23, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>A Spiritual high is an amazing feeling....
It truly is!!!

It has to be experienced to be understood. Trying to explain it to an unbeliever would be like a bird trying to explain what flying is like to a turtle. The only difference would be that the turtle would be more open minded about what the bird is saying.

That's why I think it's so funny when the atheists in here say that they are "open minded" and that they are "free thinkers". The reality is the only thing they're open minded about is what they can observe with their five senses. And the only thing they're free thinkers about is what other atheists say that they also believe.

Truth be told the most closed minded people you'll find are atheists. Which we see on display in here on a daily basis.

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#577671 Aug 23, 2013
Seraphima wrote:
<quoted text>I love animals but Chihuahua's rule my heart..lol..The one on my avatar is treated as if she was my baby. When my daughter got married,I had "empty nest" syndrome so my husband got me her..I tell people she has her fathers Greek nose and her mothers Spanish eyes..lol
I am pretty bad about adopting and keeping for ever. As I had three of them for a number of years now and just got another about two months ago. My honey say if it walks thru the door it going to get spoiled by me. Whoo one of my nasty flaws lol. Yep me too love those critters make the best of buddies.
Imhotep

Windermere, FL

#577672 Aug 23, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>:)i
Not so grasshopper

Confucius say...
"Man who Man who make love in grass, have peace on earth"

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#577673 Aug 23, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>Though it does sound like a strange concept and Hiding unknowingly hinted at it with her first reply... I have to agree with you.
1. "Biological forms have inherent limitations which medical interventions or engineering may or may not be able to overcome. Natural selection has developed potential biological immortality in at least one species, the jellyfish Turritopsis nutricula.
Certain scientists, futurists, and philosophers, have theorized about the immortality of the human body, and advocate that human immortality is achievable in the first few decades of the 21st century, while other advocates believe that life extension is a more achievable goal in the short term, with immortality awaiting further research breakthroughs into an indefinite future. Aubrey de Grey, a researcher (Gerontologist) who has developed a series of biomedical rejuvenation strategies to reverse human aging (called SENS), believes that his proposed plan for ending aging may be implementable in two or three decades.[4] The absence of aging would provide humans with biological immortality, but not invulnerability to death by physical trauma. What form an unending human life would take, or whether an immaterial soul exists and possesses immortality, has been a major point of focus of religion, as well as the subject of speculation, fantasy, and debate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortality
2. http://www.today.com/id/45654223/ns/today-tod...
3. So Drs. Hiding and Ben, this naturally leads me to another question slash statement.
Your quote above backs up every statement I made.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#577674 Aug 23, 2013
Qu_innocence wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>Though it does sound like a strange concept and Hiding unknowingly hinted at it with her first reply... I have to agree with you.
1. "Biological forms have inherent limitations which medical interventions or engineering may or may not be able to overcome. Natural selection has developed potential biological immortality in at least one species, the jellyfish Turritopsis nutricula.
Certain scientists, futurists, and philosophers, have theorized about the immortality of the human body, and advocate that human immortality is achievable in the first few decades of the 21st century, while other advocates believe that life extension is a more achievable goal in the short term, with immortality awaiting further research breakthroughs into an indefinite future. Aubrey de Grey, a researcher (Gerontologist) who has developed a series of biomedical rejuvenation strategies to reverse human aging (called SENS), believes that his proposed plan for ending aging may be implementable in two or three decades.[4] The absence of aging would provide humans with biological immortality, but not invulnerability to death by physical trauma. What form an unending human life would take, or whether an immaterial soul exists and possesses immortality, has been a major point of focus of religion, as well as the subject of speculation, fantasy, and debate."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immortality
2. http://www.today.com/id/45654223/ns/today-tod...
3. So Drs. Hiding and Ben, this naturally leads me to another question slash statement.
Here, to read more on this topic - I believe they also have papers on it, too:

http://www.mfoundation.org/

It's a foundation that actively supports research projects into life extension and youth extension (they consider those to be the same problem).

Aging is not an intractable problem, but it's incredibly complex.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#577675 Aug 23, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
Another way of looking at it---You reject the existence of a Deity, stopped seeking a Deity. You don't care, so now YHWH Almighty don't care either. And simply just waiting for you to Die, You will have proof that a Deity exist then, and after you get you proof then YHWH hand out to you judgment and a horrific punishment to you for eternity for rejecting Him.
That's certainly another explanation from MPOV, of why you do not have any evidence of an Almighty Deity.:) <quoted text>???
I'm writing here discussing religion and exercising my free will to participate on an internet forum, not that its any of your business.
Go read again...I never said there are 6 billion Christians...I said 6 billion plus people on the earth..iyai!.
???
Is what you reading? you high on drugs or something Mr? lol.
I said it's not the responsible of anyone to prove to you that YHWH Almighty exist. That is YHWH almighty job.
What contradiction you talking about??? you high or something?
Comprehension is a basic skill "scientist", learn it.
hahaha!

1. Deities don't exist.
2. Your deity is a subjective one.
3. What you wrote above isn't even reflective of what Christians believe.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#577676 Aug 23, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
One could also note that the secret to immortality is cell replacement without degeneration. One of the same mechanisms that drives evolution is that which causes most of the aging process. It could be argued that mortality is a requirement for, and possibly evidence of, evolution.
Excellent point - and not one pursued actively enough. I would guess, b/c, science already accepts evolution.

On the other hand, from a theoretical standpoint, we should include your statement above in the kinds of systems that evolution produces. Then, they would be (and I'm oversimplifying):

1. coding system for building bodies
2. reproduction/replication, competition, differential survival
3. death

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#577677 Aug 23, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
OK, no wine.
Can you get a little wild without it ? LOL
I have tea and coffee.
I remember you blushed with the ice cube effect and that was only in my playin mode. lol.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#577678 Aug 23, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
Btw, a fair amount of biological anthropology is now examining senescence, as a product of evolution - what are the trade offs and why, etc.
Imhotep

Windermere, FL

#577679 Aug 23, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL
You are a sucker for sarcasm juicy, Love you!

I find these posters highly entertaining.
Most have scant knowledge of their own holy guidebook, Especially those that post Scripture.

I see nothing here but one liners, Awaiting my rapier wit, comedy fodder.

I do not pretend to be able to prove that there is no God.

I equally cannot prove that Satan is a fiction. The Christian God may exist; so may the gods of Olympus, or of ancient Egypt, or of Babylon.

But no one of these hypotheses is more probable than any other: they lie outside the region of even probable knowledge, and therefore there is no reason to consider any of them.

The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more often likely to be foolish than sensible.

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#577680 Aug 23, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
<quoted text>
It truly is!!!
It has to be experienced to be understood. Trying to explain it to an unbeliever would be like a bird trying to explain what flying is like to a turtle. The only difference would be that the turtle would be more open minded about what the bird is saying.
That's why I think it's so funny when the atheists in here say that they are "open minded" and that they are "free thinkers". The reality is the only thing they're open minded about is what they can observe with their five senses. And the only thing they're free thinkers about is what other atheists say that they also believe.
Truth be told the most closed minded people you'll find are atheists. Which we see on display in here on a daily basis.
Just excellent

Exactly right. The group on Topix anyway is nothing but shadow images of those before them. When I read Catcher's post saying the Bible was written by goat herders the first thing I wondered was if he even recognized the blatant hypocrisy and glaring elitism of whether regurgitating what he has heard other people say is so reflexive for him that he doesn't even consider the implications. And all if them copy each other constantly, even if it means taking stances in computer opposition to what they have expressed previously.

And how I'd it bring open minded to only accept what can be proven and then without proof to support the belief the supernatural doesn't exist, they are insistent that it doesn't. They are so close minded they won't even adhere to their own criteria if by doing so they can remain close minded

I would pity them if not for the hate they exhibit. And not just for not knowing Christ or modding out on the peace that faith brings but for the fact they have allowed themselves tone one so arrogant and jaded that they reject anything that can't be proven to them. So much of the beauty in this world comes from tapping into natural forces.

I know you and Larry don't get along but I was really happy to see when he talked about the orange moon after the full moon and was going to ponder it'd significance. To someone with nothing but science it means nothing. But for others it represents a part of a beautiful and mostly unknown part of the world. Why else would man be moved to ponder his existence or God or life's questions by simply looking at a moon if all he saw was a different reflection of light? The reason man can ponder great questions is because he doesn't think he is the greatest thing in the universe. To some of these atheists, the greatest thing in life will never be more than themselves and their own selfish desires

Sad that

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