Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#576496 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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If I had had anything to say to you, it would have been advice about choosing your words more carefully, not chastisement.
I have never been very PC.

I should have said "I hope you find God soon."

Same sentiment.
Imhotep

United States

#576497 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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I've been praying for that damned white sheet for a while now.
God answered "No".
Damn it.
Ok, God. You da man.
Who knew the devil had a factory where he made millions of fossils, dinosaur bones, Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal skeletons, which his 'faithful' folliwers distributed throughout the earth, in order to confuse Christians?

;)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576498 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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So how is the above not a "wall of separation"?
"I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."

Thomas Jefferson.

Perhaps there is, I've never considered it as a wall, per se. Just a separation so the people can have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion, as American atheists would have you believe.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576499 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I can't say anything about the murderers, but I know for a fact that each of those above educational institutions only preaches burning witches via the Bible. That's all they talk about.
In High School they have:
Burning witches 10, 20 and 30 and Burnin' da witch 13, 23, and 33 for non-matriculation students.
I do believe you're just talking out yer ass now.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576500 Aug 21, 2013
BenAdam wrote:
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I see you point.
Professional demolition would be best. But RR said only burning was legal. Gotta follow the laws.
How ya feeling after that Vicodin, Ben? Better, I hope.

“Ditat Deus”

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#576501 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Love and withholding housework.
But....

Then....

How would the dishes get clean???

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#576502 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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"I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."
Thomas Jefferson.
Perhaps there is, I've never considered it as a wall, per se. Just a separation so the people can have freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion, as American atheists would have you believe.
And here you will find the teeth of the dragon, poised for war and ready to battle...you. Freedom rings without your ideas...... also.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#576503 Aug 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Communism in its pure form isn't much different than Socialism. It is basically predicated on people sharing resources. Like many things it has been twisted and perverted into benefitting those in power but in theory it's not a bad thing. Although to the best of my knowledge its ideology has nothing to do with having or not having religious beliefs. Somehow that kind of just became part of the package as many communist countries are run by dictatorship that IMO wants to eliminate it as a means of control. The government leaders wanting to take the place of God. Not that religion can't be exploited as a means of control. It just is done in a more subtle way.
Lots of things work in theory. Adding man to the equation is what always seems to screw it up
Hope you are feeling better
You are correct, the original Communism of Marx and Engles had nothing to do with religion. What is now called Communism does usually incorporate religion and if not promoting atheism, it does repress religion to a great extent.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576504 Aug 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Hilarious
Guess its a good thing he isn't a mechanic, goat herder, or Christian. You treat those people like shit.
HA HA HA HA HA!!!!

Those poor goat herders....

Maybe young Catch lost a bad lawsuit against them or something.

Since: Mar 09

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#576505 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You're projecting you own violent history onto us. Those aren't humanist values.
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Like that? You're setting a fine example.
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This is peaceful.
And we are tolerant of you..
Thats only because you have no choice

Is the poodle tolerant of the lion?

If you had the numbers you would run this country like a dictatorship. Telling people where Nd when they can exercise rights guaranteed by the Constitution

Don't confuse impotence for tolerance. Even if someone is tolerant of your impotence:) But you are a bigot to the core. Not being able to do something is very different than choosing not to

What was that, like 4 posts? I don't know how you write me dozens of times some days! That was about 3 more than I normally do unsolicited. There just was too much low hanging fruit. I will leave the obsessions to the professionals:)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#576506 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
He said that he hoped a particular person died so that he could piss on their grave. How does that make you feel?
I wondered why he felt that way.
RiversideHick wrote:
From my point of view, it appears that you hate us. Not any one or two particular people, it seems that you just hate all of us and everything that we stand for. That's why I call you a bigot.
I don't hate any of you.
RiversideHick wrote:
If you're not a bigot, I am very willing to entertain the idea. But you have to demonstrate to me why you are not.
I've already done that. I don't intend to repeat myself. Your mind is se.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Christianity is bigoted against both gays and atheists
RiversideHick wrote:
See, that right there is why I call you a bigot and why I think you're a bigot. You've given a label to all Christians for the acts of some Christians.
And that's why I've given up trying to explain myself to you. You are confounded by the simplest concepts, like the difference between an ideology and a group of people.
RiversideHick wrote:
No matter which way you slice it, when you label all for the acts of some that makes you a bigot.
This is bigotry by your own definition:

"The fool says in his heart,'There is no God.' They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good" - Psalm 14:1

My objection to that is not.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#576507 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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If you believe that, that's fine.
Maybe you can make me believe you.
Please tell me where the Bible tells ME to kill a witch.
(not the story, but where it tells me to do so)
Go.
I, personally, don't want you to by religious type faith believe anything, and as far as showing you where it tells you to kill a witch in the bible...

You select and discard what you want from the bible at a whim, as long as it suits your twisted logic.

This is the rule: The only "Real Christian™" is the one you happen to be talking to at the moment, and they'll tell you who isn't, a "Real Christian™".

They always are a, "Real Christian™", however, and that belief comes from the bible, no matter how bizarre it is.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576508 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You're projecting you own violent history onto us. Those aren't humanist values.
<quoted text>
Like that? You're setting a fine example.
<quoted text>
This is peaceful.
And we are tolerant of you. Religious intolerance involves police, armies, prisons, Inquisitions, concentration camps, and the like. We will limit our weapons to reasonable words - humanist values.
Perhaps by tolerance you mean acceptance of Christian bigotry: atheophobia, homophobia and misogyny.
No. That's not negotiable.
No. I will stand beside you and fight against Christian homophobia. Always.

I'm referring to Christian ethics, family values, trust, honor, hard work, dedication and loyalty. Not just to Christians, mind you. We are, or some of are anyway, compassionate to all.

Atheophobia?! You think we fear and hate atheists? Where'd you get that?

Misogyny? Like making the woman clean house while the man's at work? How terrible of us.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#576509 Aug 21, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Stalin killed them in the tens of thousands, but we know you are not communist. Ben on the other hand is identifying with a mass murderer not unlike Hitler.
There you go lying again.

I said I am beginning to understand him, that is a far cry from identifying with him.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#576510 Aug 21, 2013
Freedom is to...choose,
Whatever they agree with,
or
Whatever pisses them off.

I wouldn't have it any other way?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576511 Aug 21, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:

I think RH would burn witches at the stake, given the proper order from his deity.

It aint necessarily so wrote:

Of course he would. Those are Christian ethics: whatever they believe the god commands is good.
It aint necessarily so wrote:

Like that? You're setting a fine example.
Like that? You two are setting a fine example.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#576512 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
(...) it should read "Thou shalt not suffer a poisoner to live."
But King James was Wiccaphobic, so he changed it.
And you still buy it.
So I ask again.
Please tell me where the Bible tells ME to kill a witch.
Yeah, about that...

From the Septaguint

kashaph {kaw-shaf'}
Meaning: 1)(Piel) to practice witchcraft or sorcery, use witchcraft 1a) sorcerer, sorceress (participle)
Origin: a primitive root; TWOT - 1051; v
Usage: AV - sorcerers 3, witch 2, witchcraft 1; 6
There still were many who wished to follow pagan beliefs and consort with the dead. The sorceress was someone who dealt with drugs or herbs for occult purposes.

From the Targumim

verb piel participle feminine singular absolute
1051.0 (k¹shap) use witchcraft. Denominative verb.
(1051a)(keshep) witchcraft.
(1051b)(kashsh¹p) sorcerer.

Translated word meanings from BibleWorks 9.0

The word,"witch", is appropriate.

Since: Jan 11

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#576513 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
Just look at the works of Washington, Newton, Mozart, Pascal, Boyle, Cromwell, Descartes, Shakespeare, Galilei, Copernicus, Pasteur, Kelvin, Edison, Bell, Tesla, Planck, Ford, the Wright bros, Churchill, Lewis, Kennedy, and arguably Darwin.
Then you'll start to understand the contributions Christians and Christianity have given to this world.
Hahahaha.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576514 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Sweet. I will immediately begin looking for the Christian gene. It will be up to parents whether they want to keep pregnancies harboring this gene...
It's prolly right next to that elusive gay gene.

Tell me, ever see an infant with any kind of sexual desires?

I mean, I guess if they were 'born that way', as a white man is born white, you'd be able to tell. Genetically I mean.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#576515 Aug 21, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>Actually my only point was on the correlation to that and the perception of atheism somehow becoming the driving force politically. Which would be the case if somehow the "church" was in its death throes and 95% of its influence was removed from government.
Whether or not there should be a stigma wasn't my focus. Although for me personally I go by the individual and don't really care what, if anything, someone believes so long as they aren't hurting anyone.
But statistically speaking there ought to be at least 20 atheists in Congress. Now there may be all sorts of other factors given the small overall percentage that could come into play but I'd say its a safe best there are at least some. If the political climate is still such that they won't even admit it, it's hard to imagine where this secular humanist movement exists outside of Topix. At least with the accomplishments that have been inferred.
In a nutshell, my point is some people aren't living in reality. Whether people approve or not is irrelevant, the facts are America is predominately still run by Christians.
It would be pretty tough for an atheist to be voted in, so the ones that are there are hidingfromyou.:)

Kurt Vonnegut - are you familiar with him?- was a humanist, and a member of the humanist society.

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