Why Should Jesus Love Me?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#575997 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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I've never wrote I think God is perfect.
That doesn't mean I don't think that.
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Then you contradict your own beliefs. Creating the ruse that you don't believe your deity is perfect, while believing that it is, is totally dishonest on your part.
I never wrote that God isn't perfect. Scar claimed I had, even if it was unintentional.

I never said I don't think God isn't perfect, I was defending the fact that I never wrote that.
Imhotep

United States

#575998 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Excellent link
Top of the morning to you.
Doc. ;)

I have a lot of good links I love to do research on religions.

I was never 'blessed' with any faith nor were my parents so I find it interesting.
<sarcasm intended>

<sips coffee>

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/ro...

The master orator

Imhotep's doctors have discovered the following about Dr. stinky - et al

Jesus Roachs© posting in atheist forums have a mental disorder which manifests itself with an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration.

Behind this mask of ultra-confidence lies a fragile self-esteem, vulnerable to the slightest criticism.

They present a persistent sense of inadequacy, a tendency to self-diminishment, sometimes resulting in excessive aggressiveness through overcompensation.

Too harsh?

;)

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#575999 Aug 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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Ya know what?
I think it's about time you figure out if you are a "christian" or not.
You "say" you are a christian, but your words say otherwise.
You leave me no other choice but to believe you are a dissembler or an outright liar.
Because I don't care what you think. You're not my judge, you're not my family and you're not my friend. You're just some anonymous poster on a free website.

You mean nothing to me.

Since: May 09

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#576000 Aug 21, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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LOL. That's even better than Hey Diddle Diddle.
hahaa... Thanks.
Imhotep

United States

#576001 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Excellent link
I omitted the treatment that my medicine man recommended! <Haitian zombie>

Dr. stinky I think could use this what you say?

Thorazine 500 mg?

;)

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#576002 Aug 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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It's no joke on you.
It is what it is sis.
I grew a bit concerned as know what some type of prescription drugs can do to a person. Like alter the thinking, walking ect.
Some drugs labeled will read do not operate machiner or drive and some of them have some crazy side effects too. So maybe you can understand my expressed concerns here in the threads last night.
I would rather it be a joke on me then to learn he was in trouble for streaking. Now you know the pictures that floated thru my mind.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576003 Aug 21, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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I know it seems contrary to what you would think,(medical)science has actually lessened the casualties we inflict during war,and while the science of bombs, missiles, and even small arms have become more advanced, they've become more precise and inflict less civilian/collateral damage.
We wage warfare much more efficiently now, we save much more casualties that would have normally died, from both slight injuries and serious injuries. On both sides.
I can't recall where I ran across the statistic/comparison, but some of the wars in times past were absolutely atrocious in the amounts of people who died(both military and civilian), and many times an attempt to save people wasn't even made. They often killed the injured, presumably to shorten the time spent suffering, or, it was an enemy and expected. Over all, there is less war, world wide, than just about any time in history. Oft times the opposing force was absolutely decimated in lives lost, and even the victor would take tremendous casualties.
We have instantaneous world wide communication now so it may seem more, but 100+ years ago, people in whatever region of the world were only concerned with what went on locally, and were not aware of what went on continents away, across oceans etc.. The point being, is war used to be much more prevalent, but we were less aware of that, then.
Now, we hear about every little skirmish and it's STILL less than 100/200/500 years ago and further in the past.
So, not only has our warfare or the way we wage war and respond to the logistics of human life and loss of life become "kinder". We fight less.
For instance, from 1991-1999, there were 70 wars that occurred. From 2000-2008 there were only 48, and 19 of those wars were begun in the previous 8 years-1991-1999. Also, 15 of the wars in the 2000-2008 period ended before 2008. http://www.warscholar.org/index.html
I couldn't readily find info for the last four years.
Theists, and Christians especially don't like this type of info about wars.
They nEED it to be worse. Prophecy and the *gods* have declared the world will get progressively worse, but its actually getting better.
They can't have that. In many religious mythologies, it has to get worse before the gods intervene. We, "evil atheists", and others understand the gods will not show.
Things aren't getting worse. It's getting better. Science does that. Science makes things better.
It drives theists nuts to hear that, because their belief tells them it must get worse.
scaritual wrote:
Theists, and Christians especially don't like this type of info about wars.
They nEED it to be worse.
I have no idea what you mean. Christians love it when things get better, I was just point out the awesome warfare and weapons of mass destruction that science has given us.

:)

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#576004 Aug 21, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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I grew a bit concerned as know what some type of prescription drugs can do to a person. Like alter the thinking, walking ect.
Some drugs labeled will read do not operate machiner or drive and some of them have some crazy side effects too. So maybe you can understand my expressed concerns here in the threads last night.
I would rather it be a joke on me then to learn he was in trouble for streaking. Now you know the pictures that floated thru my mind.
Hiya, Whispers!

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#576005 Aug 21, 2013
RiversideHick wrote:
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I do not want what you think I want.
I would desecrate nobody's grave.
I want nobody tortured.
I don't think you're a scumbag.
I forgive you for your cruel words.
I can move on.
Can you?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#576006 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:

The people who killed witches in the name of your god apparently thought that it applied to them.
Yes, they were ignorant.

Just as ignorant, it seems, as some of the people posting here this very day. Where's all the "progress"?
Why did your bible command people to kill witches in the past? Is that OK with you?
Because people beleived that witchcraft was a real thing and it scared them, just as it scared the Pagan Romans, where witchcraft carried the death penalty.

It was part of God's covenant with the nation of Israel. There were specific laws given by God to Israel as part of His covenant with them. This covenant began with Abraham, but these laws date from the time of Moses.

Ezekiel speaks of a new covenant that was to come (and has come now in Jesus). So, the old covenant with Israel was in effect from around 1500 B.C. to about 30 A.D.

So, this never applied to Gentiles or any Gentile nation, and it hasn't been in effect for the past 2,000 years anyway.

So, no, we don't have to worry about keeping a covenant that was with the nation of Israel and hasn't been in effect for 2,000 years.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#576008 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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What makes me a bigot? My reaction to the Christian church? It defines atheists in hateful terms. It has scapegoated unbelievers for centuries. It stoned, burned, stretched and impaled us when it could, and settled for demonizing and dehumanizing us thereafter such that our lives have been made more difficult and more dangerous even in modern times.
And like a good little disciple of your bigoted church, you judge me the same way vehemently and contemptuously returning fire. So who's the bigot?
It's you.
MY Christianity does not burn witches, nor does it "stone, burn, stretch or impale" you when we can.

My Christianity cares for you and cares about you.

You're pissed off at me for something I haven't done and nobody I know condones. You're like a racist black man that hates white people because of slavery. It makes no good sense to hate someone for something they haven't done.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#576009 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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More dodgeball, bigot?
Yeah, your god. You said that you hadn't claimed that your god was perfect. Do you claim that it is now, or do you consider it flawed? You played a dishonest word game, followed it up in an evasion when called on it, and now you are being called on it again.
I have never written, here on Topix, that "God is perfect".

THAT was the conversation.

That doesn't mean I don't think that, that only means I haven't written it.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#576010 Aug 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Wrong, Mangler Jr.
You asked, "Will any of you Humanists not argue this?"
What I said was, "Why would I argue with him about how he feels?"
I'm pretty sure he knows how he feels better than I do.
Perhaps you meant to ask why nobody chastised him. That's very different from arguing with him, Og.
OK, I worded it wrong. So what, I was close enough.

So let me see if I got you right...

BenAdam can put forth his feelings of hoping someone dies so he can piss on their grave and your OK with that.

But some theist can say they don't like gays and you're not ok with that.

It's your bigotry talking, IANS.

You're sad.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#576011 Aug 21, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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I think it's time you go kiss RA's toes again.
Naw, I'm not into the feet thing.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576012 Aug 21, 2013
scaritual wrote:
Isn't that almost invariably the response?
That response being similar to:
"They did that then, not now. Christians and Christianity don't do those things now."
I've heard similar responses given concerning slavery, genocide, wars, misogyny, racism and prejudice, the murder of nonbelievers, torture, and various other atrocities and injustices, too numerous to completely detail here.
It's true. The English used to invade nations all over the world, they'd kill and rape and murder and conquer. Do we condem the English today for what their ancestors did? Do you condemn them?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#576013 Aug 21, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZD-i1offKxkXX
I get chills when I watch that.

luv u

Thanks!!

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#576014 Aug 21, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hiya, Whispers!
Hi ya Mac;

Here is my tid bit of news. Leaves turning yellow and orange on the trees and falling already out here in no man land. Tempt are dropping at night too. Going to be early winter. Even critters growing heavy coats. Hope you still playing that good music as will always remember you for that well have a grand day. Glad you dropped in here for a shout.
followerofSatan

Dallas, TX

#576015 Aug 21, 2013
scaritual wrote:
RiversideHick wrote:
The Bible does not command people to kill witches. What you're reading is a story about other people in ancient times and what THEY did, THEIR rituals. Some people are stupid and/or gullible enough to think those passages are referring them them in the here and now. Don't be one if them, Tide.
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Isn't that almost invariably the response?
That response being similar to:
"They did that then, not now. Christians and Christianity don't do those things now."
I've heard similar responses given concerning slavery, genocide, wars, misogyny, racism and prejudice, the murder of nonbelievers, torture, and various other atrocities and injustices, too numerous to completely detail here.
they don't do it now because it is against the law einstein.... if they could, they would kill anyone they considered had a different view ....wise up...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#576016 Aug 21, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
Actually it's Islamic and derived from ancient Islamic laws.
Christian and Muslim are virtually the same thing distinguished only by the fact that secularism has prevailed over theocracy in the West and greatly disempowered the Christian church, which isn't a distinction in the religions at all as much as a difference in the milieu in which they function.

But look at how much alike they are:

[1] Both embrace magic, mythology, superstition, dogma, and ritual.

[2] Both grovel before an imagined angry, capricious, petty, sadistic, murderous, judgmental, Semitic desert god complete with its pantheon of demons and angels.

[3] Both believe in an afterlife and a reward or a punishment.

[4] Both attend either Mosques or churches and obey the imams or priests there.

[5] Both have an ancient holy book filled with hatred, tribalism, violence, and failed morals upon which they base their lives.

[6] Both hate gays, atheists, Jews and women's rights.

Christians like Serah will brag about how superior Christian nations are to Muslim nations, but that is thanks to secular humanism, not the chruch. The way I see it, Christians are just a camel and a prayer cloth removed from being Muslims themselves, and without secularist supervision, would be expected to behave about the same.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#576017 Aug 21, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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I don't have to be, to be a friend and understanding as a fellow human being...let alone to show love in that respect....and you have all my best interest in your endeavor-believe me-you do. If I could take your suffering on my own person, I would...just so you wouldn't have to have the pain brother. If there is a GOD, then by god let it happen. I doubt we'll be that fortunate, but it's worth the try Bro.
Thanks BT.
I would never ask anyone to carry my burden. Sit with me, yes.
Like Job and his friends.

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