Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#565033 Jul 30, 2013
Shrinky has eproctophilia

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#565034 Jul 30, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Hey Quad,
Epiphany has joined in too.:)
That is a good question PW. But I wonder if there has ever been nothing but respect for human choices. Maybe in Eden before the apple was eaten. Some on both sides disrespect the choices of others.
I don’t really think atheism is really being fought against in here as much as the gang and some of their friends are in here fighting Christianity. Christians fighting back, in the right way or wrong way I do under stand It may not be the right thing to do but to me it is understandable. No one Atheist or Christian like someone trying to use them as a door mat! Fighting is what the gang wanted and came in here for and did their best to cause to happen in the first place. It is what they wanted.
I have not seen Christians fighting with non-Christians and vise versa before until I got on topix. I have see both Christians and Atheist put the other down but not seen the bickering like they do here. I know it happens and worse but I have not seen it.
There are some shoddy Christian organizations but I don’t think there are really that many considering how many Churches there are. Some Atheist in here have been calling things man made that are not man made. Some times the calling of man made is man made. I’m thinking you and I would not agree on that subject but I still want you as my Quad.
I don’t really know PW. But I do know it is both sides. Not just Christians. I really think a lot come in here just to fight. Sad that.
Actually I do know why all the fighting. Satan.:) HFN
Ja I saw that lol... somehow I understood there were 5 ?

… Whatever any call man-made, facts are the father of' the Christian Church became very much a man through Rome putting themselves on the throne of, so 'man-mad' was my vocab long before I knew atheist - by term. Such beliefs and topix net are all very new to me, otherwise it is a global issue which is taking place, and nothing any one says can detract from the fact that God uses anyone to test the spirit of any of us in the faith. I don't see choices as a threat when no-one can in essence leave God out of the final word – His from the start – and see both positive and negative in the bigger picture now no different than in any biblical age.
… we shouldn't be a Jesus believer if we can't stand the heat.

The beginning and everything between is history which not a soul can change... let alone before that. It's Now hat counts, that we find ourselves at a new beginning as promised...
…'Then he told me,“Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, because the time is near. 11Let the one who does wrong continue to do wrong; let the vile person continue to be vile; let the one who does right continue to do right; and let the holy person continue to be holy.”'
Rev 22:10-11
I can't understand why a Christian cannot move on and into this frame of mind without judgement of anyone once we have overcome? Or maybe I am just another peace warrior calling for peace among Christians who are supposed to know better... But my Love extends into your land, which many on earth have joined forces with, where much comes out of into the west. From currency, military, and beliefs which are not altogether free of the judgement yet. That concerns me...
… sounds like Abraham's plea for Sodom and Gomorrah lol - where even Jesus said it would be better for Sodom in this time than hypocrites - so ja... I care...
Love always HFN... my space is up! I care for you too and saw you personal pleas as well. God help you there my sister :)

Since: Mar 09

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#565035 Jul 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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In the way that I believe that everyone is agnostic. All have doubts, esp. at a subconscious level.
That was kind of the same thing I was going for as well. That subconsciously we all process things differently.

It would be an interesting thing to know I guess as far as going the other way. Do believers have lingering questions deep beneath the surface?

For me I have already accepted there may be things I have wrong. There has been a lot of influence by man as far as the direction organized religion has gone. Are some age-old teachings incorrect? Are some personal interpretations incorrect? I changed how I view hell decades into my faith.

I have no doubts at to the existence of God. But I am sure some of the things I have learned about him and interpreted the Bible I may have gotten wrong. I believe the subconscious processes tons more information than our conscious mind. And some of that information we are not even aware of. I believe a lot of our connections exist on a subconscious level be it instincts or spiritual or sixth-senses. It would be interesting to know what all our mind has taken in and how much the disparity exists between our conscious and subconscious mind

(T) Peace
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#565036 Jul 30, 2013
'Who Is Wrecking America?'
The rapture evangelicals and the neocons are euphoric at the prospect of nuclear war.

by Paul Craig Roberts [Assistant Secretary of the Treasury ...( left because of US Corruption...)

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#565037 Jul 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Not an opinion at all. Reality and truth.
Would you believe I met Abraham Lincoln ?
Yes. Did he really hunt vampires?

Since: Mar 09

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#565038 Jul 30, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Sometimes when you bored or lookin for something different to do. Go into the internet under New Mexico black bears was some videos of black bears going thru electric doors at a motel quite funny how they can make people scatter. Good example of modern tech and the wild getting together in this world. What really cool is when you can get up on something high out harms way with a pair of field glasses and watch them, tis quite interesting. Well jabber enough have a good day.
I have always enjoyed the national geographic films or Discovery Channel or animal Planet films where they observe animals in the wild at a distance to learn how they live. So many animals have basically their own rules as far as how they communicate, decide who is the dominant leader, how they hunt, mate, etc

I saw a special even on wild dogs that run in a pack and it was pretty amazing. The pack will maintain the same number of dogs. If they lose one, they will recruit another. They have a leader that tells them when to attack or when to retreat. There is a second-in-command basically if something happens to the pack leader. And a bunch of stuff that was more complex than I would have ever guessed.

Ants, bees, Lions, etc, etc all have established rules within their pack or colony. Nature is just amazing to me. I'd love to have an opportunity to observe some things first-hand

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

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#565039 Jul 30, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
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Thanks you. You said this a lot better than I did about the spirit.
No problem

I understood what you were getting at

(T) Peace
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Ciudad De Panamá, Panama

#565040 Jul 30, 2013
Offshore company registration, bank account and Mastercard debit card with no name on the plastic or magnetic stripe $2500
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Since: Mar 09

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#565041 Jul 30, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Thanks! Nice to see u too!!:-D
:)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#565042 Jul 30, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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That was kind of the same thing I was going for as well. That subconsciously we all process things differently.
It would be an interesting thing to know I guess as far as going the other way. Do believers have lingering questions deep beneath the surface?
For me I have already accepted there may be things I have wrong. There has been a lot of influence by man as far as the direction organized religion has gone. Are some age-old teachings incorrect? Are some personal interpretations incorrect? I changed how I view hell decades into my faith.
I have no doubts at to the existence of God. But I am sure some of the things I have learned about him and interpreted the Bible I may have gotten wrong. I believe the subconscious processes tons more information than our conscious mind. And some of that information we are not even aware of. I believe a lot of our connections exist on a subconscious level be it instincts or spiritual or sixth-senses. It would be interesting to know what all our mind has taken in and how much the disparity exists between our conscious and subconscious mind
(T) Peace
Thanks. Excellent post and I agree.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#565043 Jul 30, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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Yes. Did he really hunt vampires?
And ate them.... After roasting them of course.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#565044 Jul 30, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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I have always enjoyed the national geographic films or Discovery Channel or animal Planet films where they observe animals in the wild at a distance to learn how they live. So many animals have basically their own rules as far as how they communicate, decide who is the dominant leader, how they hunt, mate, etc
I saw a special even on wild dogs that run in a pack and it was pretty amazing. The pack will maintain the same number of dogs. If they lose one, they will recruit another. They have a leader that tells them when to attack or when to retreat. There is a second-in-command basically if something happens to the pack leader. And a bunch of stuff that was more complex than I would have ever guessed.
Ants, bees, Lions, etc, etc all have established rules within their pack or colony. Nature is just amazing to me. I'd love to have an opportunity to observe some things first-hand
(T) Peace
Nature makes more sense than people.

“FOUR HORSEMEN!”

Since: May 13

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#565045 Jul 30, 2013

Since: Mar 09

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#565046 Jul 30, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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This is not quite accurate.
When one leaves the faith of Christianity there are repercussions. Some who at one time that called you friend suddenly feel different about you. Others that at one time thought you were a good person now see you as the enemy...an angel of darkness...a demoniac.
Very few of those that used to call you "brother or sister" wish you good luck.
When Matt made the choice to leave his Christian faith behind...his fellow Christians (here on Topix) made him a target of that "love" that some Christians are so good at sharing with those that believe differently (yes...in case you were wondering...sarcasm).
Although he posted it once, I am not going to say who used to be Matt From Akron as most people probably only know him by his new name

It didn't change anything between us. He is one of my favorite posters on Topix, although I haven't seen him in a while.

Although I remember people actually used to accuse him of really being an atheist who was pretending to be a Christian because he clearly had some doubts as to the Bible and some things about the religion itself. I personally never felt like he was pretending. It seemed more to me like he simply was in the process of coming to terms with the fact that he no longer believed

But was it leaving the faith that people gave him a hard time for? I ask just because I have never seen anyone give someone a hard time for having doubts or leaving the faith. A lot of Christians I am sure have had times in their lives when their own walk was a tentative. I could see if someone thought it wasn't legit or because after leaving he became a critic of the faith. Not saying it couldn't have happened, I just would be surprised. But not just for leaving. Do you recall which it was?

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#565047 Jul 30, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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LOL, that's for sure
I saw your other post saying it can be easy to get sucked back in. I think in part it is because no matter how long of a break is taken, Topix has a habit of having the exact same conversations going no matter how long you are gone. People spend literally years making the same argument. So the same thing someone may have tired of before they left is the same thing they see when they get back. Although I think when people take a step back and a break from Topix and do other things in real life, they appreciate all the more that they have that option.
Hope to see ya again soon. If you ever have any interest in FB you just talk to some of the women that have been in the family group. You would be amazed at how many faces from the past are still around. Not often mind you but they are all accessible. It is basically like the reason for coming back here except no landmines to dodge:)
(T) Peace
Hey Skom!
Always good to see you again. Time is catching up with me also re where I am as to when to move on, and I have writing for Africa... It truly has been a huge slice of my life... if not 99 % lol So... very soon... maybe a month or weeks, I'll have to turn my full attention there.

I had to learn there to defuse bombs, and you wouldn't believe the amount of folk who just want the answers as to how... when it was their lives too we were defusing them for. Unreal how many can stand and watch, and still believe at the same time we can speak... and even more unreal when we are judged for being so crazy! lol

I don't have nor wish to have FB due to the fact I don't have time for other social events. But be happy and stay safe, and ja... I hope we can catch up before I'm outa here. But while here, JC posted an interesting one last week... here's his and my answer to.

I have enjoyed reading yours and LW nature posts very much. I say ditto to you both there and think only of the wild babies that are hand raised who certainly show what a bit of human love can do to turn the tables on 'really wild'. Beautiful stuff. Such docos are my favorite from the heavies.

Love always Dare Brother. Did you ever get that undercover boss I posted you?
Peace be with you...:)
I really gotta go right now also my friend... until we meet again. Aloha.
Chess Jurist wrote:
I found a piece worthy of a read:
http://open.salon.com/blog/virginia888/2011/1...
It reminded me of the talented folks who have graced these pages:
IANS, HFY, OYE, HipG, X, WiP (RiP), and others.
Apparently, according to the above link, Jesus graced this thread too -- but I don't remember that.
Regardless, this thread has been blessed with talent from whence much can be learned.
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Hey Chess...
I always said from when I have been in here only, that topix would make a good 'dialogue script' for anyone with the time!
... just imagine
... Jesus made even more popular via non believers as well.
He must be one of the hottest topics by now on planet earth.
... a bit like getting a book banned to sell.
WoW. The power Jesus had.

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#565048 Jul 30, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Your right and if you think about it it’s actually funny. But then sometimes I have a weird sense of humor.
Thank you for the heads up on FB. I guess Face book is fun but I just can’t seem to get into it. And some jerk may get on there just to get personal information. As long as I’m on topix, even if it isn’t often, I probably will not be on FB. I do have some E-Mails including yours so I can chat with someone that way. I don’t often anymore but I can. Even if I don’t have someone’s E-Mail I can probably get a message to them through someone else.
I like seeing you here too and miss you and some others when I’m not here. I guess that’s why I keep coming back. Plus I don’t like someone trying to tell me what I can and can’t do on topix LOL, except topix itself.
HFN
LOL

I hear ya on the weird sense of humor and not being too receptive to being dictated to!

I use my same Topix identity on FB. So that is always an option if you don't want to create an account with your real name. I resisted FB for a long time as I didn't want to be involved in two things as this place takes enough of my time. But I was glad I did it because a lot of old Topix regulars are there. It has been pretty quiet there as of late but its nice to have the option to stop in and see people or be able to message them as a lot of emails people exchange are not their main ones so they don't always check them frequently. I know i rarely go on my free emails unless like I sign up for a site and have to click on a confirm link

But just happy you are still checking in here. Talk to you soon:)

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

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#565049 Jul 30, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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You are not just responsible for yourself...you are responsible for the body of Christ...the church. What you do and say reflects upon that body of Christ...the entire body. You might not like that...but oh well!
Your obsession about feces not only reflected upon you Trifecta...but also on the entire body of Christ.
That is what I think...what I was taught.
There are not any verses that support that. That is basically saying the entire body of hundreds of millions of people should be subject to stereotyping based on the actions of some of its members. A person's sin is their own.

Being part of the body of Christ means several things.

1) It means that like a body, it has many parts. And while some parts may be more vital than others, we were made into a body so nobody would claim they are more important than another or say other believers are not needed. It is to ensure all believers are treated equally

2) It means we have a responsibility to use the Bible for teaching and correction and training in righteousness where iron sharpens iron.

3) We are not to cause one another to stumble

4) It means believers who make up the body of Christ have received God's mercy

We are to try to bring those in the body, who have turned to sin, back into the ways of Christ.

But nothing I have ever seen in the Bible says one person's misconduct reflects on all other believers. If you happen to remember what, if any, verses were used to teach you that, I would be interested in learning them

Since: May 12

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#565050 Jul 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
Yes, one must believe on Jesus Christ in this life. Does no good after they are dead, they can't believe in the grave. <quoted text>??? is which bible you reading? Yes, rewards are in the bible in numerous places-
and each one will receive His own reward ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR.”(1 Corinthians 3:8)
“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to everyone ACCORDING TO HIS WORK.”(Revelation 22:12)
So Jesus answered them and said,“Assuredly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brother or sisters or father or mother or wife or children or land, for My sake and the gospel’s, who shall not receive a HUNDREDFOLD now in this time … and in the age to come, eternal life.”(Mark 10:29-30)
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things DONE IN THE BODY, according to what He has done, whether good or bad.”(2 Corinthians 5:10
Can I borrow some of your bs please? I need some toilet paper.

Since: Mar 09

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#565051 Jul 30, 2013
Edit Annie

Meant to say

There are no verses THAT I AM AWARE OF that supports that

Since: Jan 11

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#565052 Jul 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
That's the reason you give right? Islam has had many more effects on the world lately...9/11 bombings in the U.S. Bus bombings in UK. Attacks in Spain. Suicide bombings in Afghanistan and Iraq killing thousands of people, shooting school girls in the head, etc, etc.
How come you don't oppose that religion?? huh??
I do oppose that religion. I just don't address it often. I know you don't understand why, so I'll explain.

Most of the people in my realm of influence readily accept that Islam is a dangerous religion. I don't need to convince them of that. Islam has nearly no political or cultural influence in the country I live in. Christianity has a lot.

Islam and Christianity are different kinds of threats.
trifecta1 wrote:
If you was truly an atheist, you would be as politically motivated to oppose Islam as you do Christianity.
That has nothing to do with atheism.

But for the record, I oppose Islam more than Christianity. Islam has the potential to bring about the end of humanity. I don't see that being likely with Christianity. You're in second place though.
trifecta1 wrote:
They are both religions with a Deity and both religions have done many bad things in the name of God.
Which religion do you think did more harm? Islam is the worst right now, but that hasn't always been the case.

There are also many smaller religions and cults which are potentially more dangerous than Islam or Christianity. Why am I not talking about them?
trifecta1 wrote:
So--when you can show me where you rack up over 10,000 writings somewhere railing against Islam, then I will believe you're truly an atheist.
Trifecta, that has nothing to do with what makes me an atheist.
trifecta1 wrote:
If you can't show those writings, to me, you're nowhere near an atheist, not even close. A Hypocrite maybe, but no atheist.
You'll always be a buffoon to me, writer.

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