Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#562616 Jul 26, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
Words satisfy the soul as food satisfies the stomach; the right word on a person's lips bring satisfaction.
hi - what version are you quoting from? it's very good, at least for the proverbs:)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#562617 Jul 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
... To me, that is best explained by calling the god a creation of men."
Like String Theory.

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#562618 Jul 26, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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I think you're describing something called 'cherry-picking' or 'quote-mining' where you keep the bits you like and disregard the bits you don't.
What you just said seems to fly in the face of every christian who has ever said, "you must read the bible as a whole, you cannot just pick isolated parts".
So which is it? Keep what I want or take the bible as a whole?
I am not the master of your mind. It up to you what you believe or disbelieve. I share it all with you good, bad or indifferent and the rest is left up to you as a individual.
Only you can decide what you want for yourself.
Just sayin it is my opinion only.

“"None shall pass"”

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#562619 Jul 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I think he could do better. If I were a god that wanted to be known and loved, you'd know me, and I'd be irresistible. I can't even find your god, and I spent five years searching.
I found something better than a deity from a book.

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#562620 Jul 26, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
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So...we are all "antiques" on here....
Just a bunch of Antiques posting to each other....LOL
Hey Epi are theses antiques collectables,I bet a bit pricey too.lol

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#562621 Jul 26, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
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So...we are all "antiques" on here....
Just a bunch of Antiques posting to each other....LOL
Yep.

Cars over 25
Furniture over 100
Computers over 10
People.... "older than me"

LOL

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#562622 Jul 26, 2013
grace walker wrote:
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No embarrassment my friend..I even told G that it was an article that I read. I didn't see the need to cite my findings because who would have actually clicked on the cite??? I cite enough in school, where it actually matters but thanks for doing it on my behalf..much appreciated
Agreed.

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#562623 Jul 26, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
Many Christians are convinced that everyone who did not profess Christ before death, even those who never so much as heard of Christ, are now in hell, being tortured in agony by God—the God the same Christians ironically proclaim as compassionate, merciful, loving and full of grace.
"God loves you," some of us Christians seem to be saying, but then comes the fine print: "If you don’t say the sinner’s prayer before you die, then my merciful Lord and Savior will torture you forever."
Gospel= Good News
The gospel of Jesus Christ is good news. It remains forever, good news, the best news imaginable, for absolutely everybody and everything. It is not merely good news for the few who came to know Christ before they died; it is good news for the whole of creation—even for all those who died before they ever heard of Christ.
Jesus Christ is the atoning sacrifice not merely for the sins of Christians but for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2). The Creator is also the Redeemer of his creation (Colossians 1:15-20). Whether people know that truth before they die is not the thing that determines whether it is true. It depends entirely on Jesus Christ, not on human action or human response of any kind.
Jesus said, "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life" (John 3:16)
and "die" are not the same thing. Belief keeps people from perishing, but it does not keep them from dying.
The kind of perishing that Jesus is talking about here, translated from the Greek word apoletai, is a spiritual death, not a physical one. It has to do with utter destruction, with being abolished, put an end to, or ruined. Those who believe in Jesus will not come to such a final end, but will, instead, enter into the life (zoe) of the age to come (aeonion).
Some enter into the life of the age to come, or kingdom life, while they still live and walk on the earth, but in the grand scheme of things, this happens to only a few of those who make up the "world" or "kosmos" that God loves so much that he sent his Son to save it.
( The Kingdom of God is within Us)
I know you heard that verse a thousands times..I have but never really meditated on it much.
Sometimes we read where Jesus is talking about "life" and most people automatically assume that He is talking about eternal life but is He? When He speaks of eternal life..He says...Eternal Life..Not Life..as in THIS LIFE..
What about the rest? This verse does not say that God cannot or won’t bring to faith any of those who die physically before believing.
The idea that physical death is a barrier to God’s ability to save, or to his ability to bring a person to faith in Christ, is a human interpretation; the Bible states no such thing. We are told that everyone dies, and then they are judged (Hebrews 9:27). But let us remember that their Judge, thank God, is none other than Jesus, the slaughtered Lamb of God who died for their sins—and that changes everything.
If the One who judges us is the One who died for us..What do you think the verdict will be??
Where do we get this notion that God is only able to save live people and not dead ones? He conquered death, didn’t he? He rose from the dead, didn’t he? God doesn’t hate the world; he loves it. He didn’t create humanity for hell. Christ came to save the world, not to condemn it (John 3:17).
So you see, maybe men have created a god that best suits their agenda and ignore all this..
hi Grace -

i understand and can agree with everything you're saying in priciple, but i'm leary of preaching an ambiguous "love" and an ambigous god without proclaiming HOW God is able to love sinners and what/Who it cost Him; i.e., the GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, not just the same christless/crossless jibber jabber of the world. i'm not implying that you didn't preach the unadulterated Gospel, but there are many who don't:)

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#562624 Jul 26, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
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and you told her in public......
Yep:

" I found something a little interesting but it will take a few pages to post it all."

Not getting into another plagiarism "snitch and bitch".

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#562625 Jul 26, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Funny that my Father was a great mathematician, and finance is my path and my daughter is doing an Accounting degree and is already a bookkeeper. I also believe my Father's ancestors are German Jews, but have not been able to substantiate that yet. A Christian to my mind is an evolved Jew as such, seeing as JESUS was a Jewish Rabbi.
Jews were meant to be very good with money, but history tells us this.
1. I was making a joke.
2. The reason Hews were involved in Medieval banking was because the RCC declared that banking (charging interest on leant money) was a sin.
3. The Knights Templars found a way around the sin by calling it a "service charge" instead of "interest"...and paying a "tithe" from their profits to the Vatican.

“"None shall pass"”

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#562626 Jul 26, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
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Cause I have no interest in your word games. You guys aren't honest and I dont have the time for the games.
I'm glad that bothers you. I see your keeping that file on me now. LOL.
So you're a hypocrite as well as a jackass.

OK

Bye!

“"None shall pass"”

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#562627 Jul 26, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
Children who mistreat their fathers or chase away their mother are a public disgrace and an embarrassment.
And according to the Bible are to be stoned to death.

“"None shall pass"”

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#562629 Jul 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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LOL.
You mock the wisdom of the scriptures?
That one caught my eye, too. Apparently, anything passes for wisdom if it's in the book and written sententiously, however inane.
"It's better let a fool kiss you than to let a kiss fool you."
"A kiss is shopping upstairs for downstairs merchandise."
"A man with five dicks will have pants that fit like a glove."
Any of those could be in the bible.
Exactly. The Proverbs are nothing more than a collection of old Jewish sayings. The Tradition continues to this day.

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#562630 Jul 26, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Sorry, Epi. This may be encouraging, but it is a false promise. And obviously so. What else have you been promised from the same source?
I know - I'm a horrible. demon infested person for pointing out the obvious.
There are tomes of apologetics to explain away that verse.
All of them are bigger failures than the verse itself.

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#562632 Jul 26, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
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hi - what version are you quoting from? it's very good, at least for the proverbs:)
New living translation.

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#562633 Jul 26, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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Yeah, it was getting annoying, her quoting proverbs out of context. I challenged her on it before, but she babbled something incoherent - finally G_O_D explained it to me.
So then I thought I'd just make fun of how ridiculous it is. You can get such good at advice anywhere - and better, to be honest, since we live in very different times.
Agreed.

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#562634 Jul 26, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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And according to the Bible are to be stoned to death.
lil whispers wrote:
Children who mistreat their fathers or chase away their mother are a public disgrace and an embarrassment.

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I don't recall...what does it say about fathers and mothers that gave their children reason to mistreat and disgrace them.

I have often thought of the commandment...

Honor thy father and mother...

I have often thought about those parents that don't deserve to be honored.

They exist...we read about them every day...those parents that abuse their children. Are those children still expected to...honor thy father and mother?

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#562635 Jul 26, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I'm not going to carry on with this topic anymore at all. G is right, I am way out of my league.
I will apologise to anyone I have offended over these last weeks and will never be able to explain why I feel the way I feel. It has been very personal and it is my life ~ not really meant to be shared with a group of strangers from all walks of life, all over the world.
My postings will be more Scriptural and Prayer like, pertaining more to the topic of the Forum ~ Cheers, Serah
I think if you stick to posting scriptures.. All will be well..
You are a menace.

Your apology that ends w a "but , this is why I..."
- means nothing..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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Fennario

#562636 Jul 26, 2013
grace walker wrote:
Exactly Ian's..That's why I was impressed with your statement about men created a God. His own followers seem to limit God and bring Him down to their personal beliefs and then try to threaten others while at the same time, they try to convince people how loving He is
From my perspective, its people using a god sock to bark at other people.
grace walker wrote:
If we truly believe in the power of God, why do His followers limit him and His power? Is it only to keep others obedient to their rules?? I wonder!!!
Yes, of course. God or no god, using a god puppet gives one the authority of a god with many people. Just act indignant and say "ye" and "sayeth" a lot. Seriously.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#562637 Jul 26, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
I'm sure transitioning back to Western culture will be hard....Are we happier...really?
I am very happy. You are apparently less so.

Why always the dig at what man has made? Life is much better now than ever in terms of life expectancy. literacy, crime, opportunity, human and civil rights, average wealth, average work, leisure time, safety, lethal diseases, nutrition, comfort - I could keep on going. Too bad you have been taught to see through all of that and see only the misery and failure.

And your church is responsible for much of that.

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