Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562404 Jul 25, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. fight? Not really, not my style. It was a serious question ..
.. most Christians consider both homosexuality and abortion immoral. If a gay gene is found and science is unable to to negate it, then what? Do you let the embryo live, knowing as an adult, it will be gay or do you abort ??..
.. can you see the dilemma Christians would face? And, no, I don't want a fight. You can choose not to respond ..
I find using "sins" to drive a wedge between our recognition of others as valuable, lovable humans to be a greater "sin".

For every "sin" I see in another I can find seven more of my own.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#562405 Jul 25, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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There is a quantum probability that Schrodinger's cat is a dog. <smile>
Ja... as close to the possibility that my uncle is my auntie.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#562407 Jul 25, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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WOW!
I didn't read ahead. I swear.
Coincidence or is my mind gone to the dogs ?
<hugs>
You can read and that's what counts. It happens to the worst of us!~~ hugs ~~ I thought you car was supposed to be antique? Congrats there too.

“saved From jesus”

Since: Jul 11

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#562408 Jul 25, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. fight? Not really, not my style. It was a serious question ..
.. most Christians consider both homosexuality and abortion immoral. If a gay gene is found and science is unable to to negate it, then what? Do you let the embryo live, knowing as an adult, it will be gay or do you abort ??..
.. can you see the dilemma Christians would face? And, no, I don't want a fight. You can choose not to respond ..
I think many would just be in denial...thinking they can pray it away....or beat it out of them.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562409 Jul 25, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
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The verse says nothing about that belief having to come prior to physical death. In fact, it says that believers will not perish, and since even believers die, it should be obvious that "perish" and "die" are not the same thing. Belief keeps people from perishing, but it does not keep them from dying.
The kind of perishing that Jesus is talking about here, translated from the Greek word apoletai, is a spiritual death, not a physical one. It has to do with utter destruction, with being abolished, put an end to, or ruined......
Reading through again.
It is this point where you and I differ, I think "apoletai" can occur while one is still alive...and be resurrected from.
I base this on the following:

"Leave the dead to bury their own dead." He is referring to the "living" as just as "dead" as the one who is being buried.

IMHO Jesus rarely talked about physical death at all.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562410 Jul 25, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
But salvation is only for Christians," the fundamentalists howl. Yes, of course it is. But just who are "the Christians"? Are they only those who repeat the sinnerís prayer? Are they only those who are baptized by immersion? Only those who belong to the "true" church? Only those who are absolved by a duly ordained priest? Only those who have ceased sinning.(Have you? I havenít.) Only those who come to know Jesus before they die? Or does Jesus himself, the one into whose nail-pierced hands God has given all judgment, decide who is and is not ultimately to be included among those upon whom he will have mercy? And while he is at it, does he, the one who conquered death and grants eternal life to whomever he will, decide when he might bring a person to faith, or do we, the all-wise defenders of the true religion, make that determination for him?
Excellent post. Much to think about. I am not in total agreement but when the stones are thrown I will stand beside you.
Thank you

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562413 Jul 25, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
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It isn't "who DOES He save..Its who he DID save..EVERYBODY..He came to save the world. ALL means ALL.:)
If we are all incapable of true righteousness then a loving God would understand that the "sin of unbelieving" is the greatest one we need salvation from. Thus, the Atonement through Jesus would, by that love, apply to even atheists.
Otherwise, it is not forgiveness but a conditional purchase of one's "soul".

Love, even love for God, can not be bought (IMHO)... even by God.

Dang, You are making me think. <hugs>

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562414 Jul 25, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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That's awesome. Uhm, I'm guessing you're meaning some non-material sense, given that this world is full of poverty, suffering from disease and, you know, other belief systems that have other deities.
I can comment on disease.

I am convinced I am happier with my illness than many healthy people.

So, IMHO it is "some non-material sense".

Hope that made sense to you.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562416 Jul 25, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
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Yes you are right, I can choose not to respond. Or, I can choose to respond. With or with out anyone's permission. But, thank you for it anyway :) That is an interesting hypothetical dilemma. I don't know the answer. Those who hold those views would have a dilemma in that hypothetical scenario.
What if science shows that doors are really cows and it's freezing cold outside......can you see the dilemma a person that wants a cheeseburger would face? Eat their door and freeze to death or leave the door and starve to death. What will they do? What will they do?:) Have a good evening HL :)
Eat the cow and use the hide as a blanket from the cold.

Sorry, it's an ancient survival trick.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562417 Jul 25, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Catcher here.
Just checking in to let you know I'm still alive and kicking. I'm in Huangshan (Anhui province) in the hinterlands of China. Travel is by horse cart and bicycle taxi. No English, difficult to know what one is ordering to eat, I'm seen as someone from another planet.
The people are incredibly warm and friendly, water buffalo, rice fields and chrysanthemum plantations are all around, and the Yellow Mountain is indescribable (google Huangshan and see pictures).
Some are Buddhists or Tao (the religions appear to be in harmony with one another), or atheist. Saw one or two Catholic churches along the way, in larger towns. The villages are 1000 years old or more, and many are in "original" condition. Only problem--it's hot. I have decided it's not a good idea to end up in the Lake of Fire. Tell Red Apples and trifecta I said so, and that I'm trying to be good.
In case you wonder how I can communicate, today for the first time I found a computer (from the '80s?), and somehow I managed to get past the Chinese characters and find Topix. Is this an incredible world we live in, or what?
A few more days, and I'll be back to Western civilization. The transition will be a bit difficult I think.
If you get a chance, feed the fish at one of the temple ponds. They say it is good luck. I just think the fish are cool and deserve to be hand fed.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562418 Jul 25, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Really ?
I must be a very small fish in a very big pond which has a leak in it, and so can fit into many places a big fish can't! lol
A flying fish!

How wonderful!

Love and hugs to you.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562419 Jul 25, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Ja... as close to the possibility that my uncle is my auntie.
My Aunt was said to have "a lot of balls". LOL

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562420 Jul 25, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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You can read and that's what counts. It happens to the worst of us!~~ hugs ~~ I thought you car was supposed to be antique? Congrats there too.
Over here, more than 25 years old is an 'antique car'. The Vette is 33 years old.
Will have the new engine in it in about three weeks. Doing some interior work on it now.

Since: Oct 10

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#562421 Jul 25, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Reading through again.
It is this point where you and I differ, I think "apoletai" can occur while one is still alive...and be resurrected from.
I base this on the following:
"Leave the dead to bury their own dead." He is referring to the "living" as just as "dead" as the one who is being buried.
IMHO Jesus rarely talked about physical death at all.
Interesting. I was just giving thought to this very thing today while on a delivery. I agree. Regarding another post, the respect is mutual.
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#562422 Jul 25, 2013
Experiencing God Day By Day:
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Walking Worthy
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Only let your conduct be worthy of the gospel of Christ.(Philippians 1:27)
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Paul never lost his wonder at having been called by God. He understood that the way he lived ought to be worthy of the King who had chosen him. He knew that the mystery of the gospel had been hidden for generations and had only been revealed in his day through the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus Christ (Col. 1:26Ė27). Paul also understood that until people accept the gospel, they are spiritually dead and therefore without hope (Col. 2:13). As a result of Godís plan of salvation, those who trust in Jesus are not only made alive in Christ but are also adopted as the Fatherís children (Rom. 8:16Ė17). Paul recognized that though the Gospel sounds like foolishness to the world, it is the power of God that brings eternal life to those who accept it.
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Because Paulís life had been radically transformed by the gospel, he was intent on living to honor the gospel that gave him life. It would have been tragic to receive the riches of the gospel and then to live as a spiritual pauper. It would have been disgraceful to be saved from death by the blood of Christ and then show no reverence for that sacrifice. It would have been foolish to accept such love from Christ and then to resent what He asked in return.
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The way you live your life ought to be a tribute to the matchless grace that your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, has bestowed upon you.

Since: Oct 10

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#562423 Jul 25, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Eat the cow and use the hide as a blanket from the cold.
Sorry, it's an ancient survival trick.
Great Answer :) I thought that one up on the fly and thought it was pretty good. But I can see I will have to give them more thought :) No need to be sorry, I love it :)

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#562424 Jul 25, 2013
It is better to be poor and honest than to be a fool and dishonest.

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#562425 Jul 25, 2013
Zeal without knowledge is not good, a person who moves too quickly may go the wrong way.

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#562426 Jul 25, 2013
People ruin their lives by their own foolishness and then are angry at the Lord.

Since: Oct 12

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#562427 Jul 25, 2013
Wealth makes many friends; poverty drives them away.

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