Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#562370 Jul 25, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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The new motto for the American school system: Go draconian or go home!
hahaha! It'd be better than what they currently do.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#562371 Jul 25, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
God is in the business of saving people, not torturing them. Jesus is Redeemer, and whether we believe it or not, he is awfully good at what he does. He is the Savior of the world (John 3:17), not the Savior of a fraction of the world. "God so loved the world" (verse 16)¬ónot merely one out of 1,000.
God has ways, and his ways are higher than our ways.
So...who does your deity save?

Since: Sep 12

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#562372 Jul 25, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. fight? Not really, not my style. It was a serious question ..
.. most Christians consider both homosexuality and abortion immoral. If a gay gene is found and science is unable to to negate it, then what? Do you let the embryo live, knowing as an adult, it will be gay or do you abort ??..
.. can you see the dilemma Christians would face? And, no, I don't want a fight. You can choose not to respond ..
Hello HL..
Most of those Religious people that you are referring to also uses their own "opinions" about what is moral and/or immoral. If they don't or never have done something then it is WRONG!!! LOL. I honestly believe that if some of these folks were actually living in the time of the crucifixion, they would be the one's who would scream the loudest " crucify him..crucify him..
Lord knows that they do it enough already. These are the very one's who pick out all the condemnation versus instead of spreading the Good News..They want to CRUCIFY!!!!!!!! Nothing changed much over the years. Remember, it WAS the religious leaders who wanted to kill Jesus but yet they killed people for killing people and for committing adultery..

Since: Sep 12

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#562373 Jul 25, 2013
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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So...who does your deity save?
It isn't "who DOES He save..Its who he DID save..EVERYBODY..He came to save the world. ALL means ALL.:)

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#562375 Jul 25, 2013
Grace Walker wrote:
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It isn't "who DOES He save..Its who he DID save..EVERYBODY..He came to save the world. ALL means ALL.:)
That's awesome. Uhm, I'm guessing you're meaning some non-material sense, given that this world is full of poverty, suffering from disease and, you know, other belief systems that have other deities.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#562376 Jul 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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To you. To me, the essence of the statement was that there is a god. The question is completely different with and without that premise.
I'm asking to understand and acknowledge my beliefs in your communications. You seem to be expecting me to ignore yours embedded into the question instead. Well, no. Frankly, I'm tired of accommodating the Christian majority, and I'm starting to get the impression that I don't have to any more.
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Now you're telling me that the question was actually a statement,like a push poll. I would have answered it as a question had you left the religious implications out of it.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Perhaps there was no disrespect intended. I'm telling you that I find your presumption offensive. Will you not modify your language to acknowledge that our beliefs differ?
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I don't need to correct any thoughts. Carry on as you wish, and I will, too.
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That's wrong two ways. You asked me a question fit for a fellow theist, not an atheist. And it's not about rights. Your god mention was gratuitous, and I find it offensive. You have the right to be offensive, and I have the right to read it as such.
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I wasn't talking about rights. You were.
And you do have freedom to express yourself, but not free from criticism.
I'm sorry to you find even presumptions. I told you the conversazione with both you and Mark has been my first with this subject matter with of a non believer in the Christian Faith with any thought of concerting anyone.

Respect for me to any of you has been acceptance of this fact. But if you want to draw a line in this, without me still believing there is a God - or Jesus -..within my conversation, then it is no more less disrespectful to speak to me of none.

So if religious implications are expressed in all the Bible quotes I see you use, my expressions were never targeted against your beliefs on purpose, but somehow seem to have been seen as such by you. You truly have been in this game a long time, and I truly am very new.

You see... I truly don't draw a line between theist or atheist when it comes to safety... or rescue. And I really am thinking of everyone on this earth.

Oh well... take care. You have taught me much. I told you I am a quick learner. Even an encyclopedia Britannica set, given to me as a gift once to answer my questions was declines as kindergarten, and I gave it to a child.

We both have always been free to carry on... so thank you.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#562377 Jul 25, 2013
*** Correction @ Ians
I'm sorry that you find even presumptions.

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#562379 Jul 25, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
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don't lie
Eph 2;8-9. eph 1;2-12
Jesus did not die for this world of satan posession?
you forget translate original greek koine word"whole world" and meaning Cosmos by whom and for who will be crated in the close future and for whom?
2 peter 3;13.isaiah 65;17 FOR THIS WHOLE WORLD JESUS DIED,not for your haluciantions and Lies
you are dumb spiritual butt, babling own church empty doctrines
I don't need any respond from you,you are deceived LIAR,SPECUALATOR,AND DECEIVE OTHERS BY CLAIMING THAT YOU KNOW JESUS THOUGHTS?
YOU ARE NOT MY SISTER, NOR TRUE BELIEVER TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION with you ABOUT TRUE GOSPEL GOOD NEWS,
you even doesn't understand what is true witness of Good news about Kingdom of God
you also forget what jesus said,that" GOD IS GOD OF LIVING NOT DEAD"
please please?stop lies and deceive others
So when you die, He wont be your God?? Everything that I post came from the very bible that you claim you read. Yes, I am still your sister. You don't get to decide that. Jesus already did. Sorry...Love you Brother

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#562381 Jul 25, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
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don't lie
Eph 2;8-9. eph 1;2-12
Jesus did not die for this world of satan posession?
you forget translate original greek koine word"whole world" and meaning Cosmos by whom and for who will be crated in the close future and for whom?
2 peter 3;13.isaiah 65;17 FOR THIS WHOLE WORLD JESUS DIED,not for your haluciantions and Lies
you are dumb spiritual butt, babling own church empty doctrines
I don't need any respond from you,you are deceived LIAR,SPECUALATOR,AND DECEIVE OTHERS BY CLAIMING THAT YOU KNOW JESUS THOUGHTS?
YOU ARE NOT MY SISTER, NOR TRUE BELIEVER TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION with you ABOUT TRUE GOSPEL GOOD NEWS,
you even doesn't understand what is true witness of Good news about Kingdom of God
you also forget what jesus said,that" GOD IS GOD OF LIVING NOT DEAD"
please please?stop lies and deceive others
I thought you left the JW religion. It is YOU that are continuing in that belief but it doesn't matter really. Jesus Loves everybody enough to die for them. Just because your JW teachings tell you to believe otherwise, you should at least believe Jesus first. Have a goodnight my grouchy old man of a brother.((hug))((hug)) Now go get some shut eye. Time for lights outs. I will leave the hallway light on for you and try to keep the patient in the next room from disturbing you. Lots a love to ya Shrinky

Since: Oct 10

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#562382 Jul 25, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. fight? Not really, not my style. It was a serious question ..
.. most Christians consider both homosexuality and abortion immoral. If a gay gene is found and science is unable to to negate it, then what? Do you let the embryo live, knowing as an adult, it will be gay or do you abort ??..
.. can you see the dilemma Christians would face? And, no, I don't want a fight. You can choose not to respond ..
Yes you are right, I can choose not to respond. Or, I can choose to respond. With or with out anyone's permission. But, thank you for it anyway :) That is an interesting hypothetical dilemma. I don't know the answer. Those who hold those views would have a dilemma in that hypothetical scenario.
What if science shows that doors are really cows and it's freezing cold outside......can you see the dilemma a person that wants a cheeseburger would face? Eat their door and freeze to death or leave the door and starve to death. What will they do? What will they do?:) Have a good evening HL :)

Since: Sep 12

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#562383 Jul 25, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
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I told you you red communistic scumbag
I urinate on your thanks and any responds
start worship GW,new pope on topic,maybe she saves you or date you,
ask old east german man or polish man what they think about scum a...les like you,esspecialy when they could'nt buy cigarettes only picked up butts from street walkway thrown by pigs and scums like you,you poor embrio fish brain secular humaity morality higher from Gods morality
bhwa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you idiot of whole cyber space
Calm down before you burst an artery. Geez, you need a padded room tonight?? LOL

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#562384 Jul 25, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
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what GW says is not truth according to Bible 2 PETER 3;13. isaiah 65;17.Isaiah 51;16.Rev 21;1
Isaiah 51;17
for behold I create new heavens and new earth( whole world cosmos)
and the former shall not be remmebered nor come into mind(THIS IS WHOLE NEW WORLD JESUS DIED FOR THEM REV 7;9
" saved great crowd from all languages, tribes,toungues....." doesn't mean whole old world
GW just contradict 2 Tim 2;16 and fit Bible passages to fit her church fake agenda
if you got Bible,read those passages given by me,
and try to understand word "whole world in greek koine language
WHOLE WORLD MEANS NEW CREATION NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH
not this filthy lost world rule of FATHER MASTER DECEIVER FATHER OF ALL LIES,POWERTY,WARS,HATE AND GW
have goo night sweety
I am sure she will get right on that. LOL. Get a grip on reality Shrink. You are not God and you aren't very good at greek or Hebrew. Were you one of those Pharisee's that Jesus was talking about? He told you to Stop It..

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562387 Jul 25, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No, I don't see that at all, Lacez, but agree that it would only be a percentage that would be affected and will leave it at that. Please accept my apology for any indication on my behalf that your DNA could have been traumatised and been repaired. That was arrogance and no way on the road to humility.
I knew my faith in you wasn't misplaced.

<smile>

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#562388 Jul 25, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
what GW says is not truth according to Bible 2 PETER 3;13. isaiah 65;17.Isaiah 51;16.Rev 21;1
Isaiah 51;17
for behold I create new heavens and new earth( whole world cosmos)
and the former shall not be remmebered nor come into mind(THIS IS WHOLE NEW WORLD JESUS DIED FOR THEM REV 7;9
" saved great crowd from all languages, tribes,toungues....." doesn't mean whole old world
GW just contradict 2 Tim 2;16 and fit Bible passages to fit her church fake agenda
if you got Bible,read those passages given by me,
and try to understand word "whole world in greek koine language
WHOLE WORLD MEANS NEW CREATION NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH
not this filthy lost world rule of FATHER MASTER DECEIVER FATHER OF ALL LIES,POWERTY,WARS,HATE AND GW
have goo night sweety
So there are some contradictions here? Not totally surprised.

:)

Uh, thanks. You, too.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562389 Jul 25, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
The name of the Lord is strong fortress; the godly run to him and are safe.
Masada.

<face palm>

Since: Sep 12

Location hidden

#562391 Jul 25, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
don't lie
Eph 2;8-9. eph 1;2-12
Jesus did not die for this world of satan posession?
you forget translate original greek koine word"whole world" and meaning Cosmos by whom and for who will be crated in the close future and for whom?
2 peter 3;13.isaiah 65;17 FOR THIS WHOLE WORLD JESUS DIED,not for your haluciantions and Lies
you are dumb spiritual butt, babling own church empty doctrines
I don't need any respond from you,you are deceived LIAR,SPECUALATOR,AND DECEIVE OTHERS BY CLAIMING THAT YOU KNOW JESUS THOUGHTS?
YOU ARE NOT MY SISTER, NOR TRUE BELIEVER TO HAVE ANY CONVERSATION with you ABOUT TRUE GOSPEL GOOD NEWS,
you even doesn't understand what is true witness of Good news about Kingdom of God
you also forget what jesus said,that" GOD IS GOD OF LIVING NOT DEAD"
please please?stop lies and deceive others
I will try to be as "good" and "loving" as you pop. I looked up the word "world" in Greek just like you ask me too and ummm, is says the same thing..

According to the Greek Lexicon of Brown, Driver and Briggs, p 447-448, the Greek word kosmos has a number of meanings:

1. Adornment, adorning, such as in women's attire.

2. In philosophical usage it means 'the world, the orderly universe' in the sense of the sum total of all that is here and now.

3. "the world" as the sum total of all the beings above the level of the animals.

4. "the world" in terms of the planet earth on which humans live. This also includes the idea of the planet earth in contrast to heaven.

5. "the world" as mankind...

You misunderstood the meaning. Tell your priest that he was wrong. ok!!

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562392 Jul 25, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
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You said that, not me. And it has nothing to do with progress being made in regards to Down Syndrome. You will have to find someone else to pick a fight with on that one HL.
True. I don;t recall you getting involved in any of the "gay debates".

Since: Sep 10

Hefei, China

#562393 Jul 25, 2013
Catcher here.

Just checking in to let you know I'm still alive and kicking. I'm in Huangshan (Anhui province) in the hinterlands of China. Travel is by horse cart and bicycle taxi. No English, difficult to know what one is ordering to eat, I'm seen as someone from another planet.

The people are incredibly warm and friendly, water buffalo, rice fields and chrysanthemum plantations are all around, and the Yellow Mountain is indescribable (google Huangshan and see pictures).

Some are Buddhists or Tao (the religions appear to be in harmony with one another), or atheist. Saw one or two Catholic churches along the way, in larger towns. The villages are 1000 years old or more, and many are in "original" condition. Only problem--it's hot. I have decided it's not a good idea to end up in the Lake of Fire. Tell Red Apples and trifecta I said so, and that I'm trying to be good.

In case you wonder how I can communicate, today for the first time I found a computer (from the '80s?), and somehow I managed to get past the Chinese characters and find Topix. Is this an incredible world we live in, or what?

A few more days, and I'll be back to Western civilization. The transition will be a bit difficult I think.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#562394 Jul 25, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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I cannot think of a better way to communicate. A wise man once told me to learn the language of a culture best through their sacred text book... and the Bible speaks many languages!
'My ways are not your ways nor my thoughts your thought' right ? Isaiah 55:8
That is a rule of anthropology as well. <smile>

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#562395 Jul 25, 2013
@ Ians

I find this even funnier in my last post to you. Words I never knew existed - but were my wrong spelling - are actually words which are real and can fit!

"... the conversazione with both you and Mark has been my first with this subject matter with of a non believer in the Christian Faith with any thought of concerting anyone. "

conversazione = Italian
(Fine Arts & Visual Arts / Art Terms)(Literary & Literary Critical Terms) a social gathering for discussion of the arts, literature, etc.
[literally: conversation]

concerting
Verb
Arrange (something) by mutual agreement or coordination.

Lol Ians... thanx for the English lessons too.

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