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OK. Of course, that sounds a lot like the naturalistic process, the one we undergo without any help from a holy spirit.
I would think that the Christian should make that progress just by virtue of having a supernatural spirit infusion, and should so it better and faster that those attempting the accomplish the same transition without it. It would be evidence of a god to both the soul directly affected by the spirit, which would strengthen the god-human relationship in that life, and would also serve as a beacon to the rest of us.
How do you reconcile that with the claim that an omnipotent and omniscient god very much wants us to know and worship him? To me, that is best explained by calling the god a creation of men.
With all due respect, these are the kinds of things that argue against the existence of the god to me. Time after time, when there is an opportunity for a god to show itself, instead, it is invisible. Whenever the god has a chance to make an impact in a way that would be apparent, it doesn't. Consider the studies on the efficacy of prayer. Prayer doesn't accomplishes anything in these studies. Why? Does prayer suddenly lose its power when being studied?
These matters are generally explained away in terms of belief by faith being superior to the god, or that it is a sin to test the god. As I said, to me, having to resort to answers like that is sufficient evidence that the god a creation of men.
Thanks for your response. I have been doing a lot of thinking, searching and talking to God today and I found something a little interesting but it will take a few pages to post it all. To be honest, I was a little stunned at what I found but it does make more sense than anything else that I have ever heard before. First, I will answer your questions above with a big fat " I DONT KNOW"..Who knows the mind of God? I am impressed with what you are asking though and I was especially impressed with this response "The God is a creation of men" <end quote>..Very interesting and I somewhat agree. Of course I know it is the other way around, however, It does seem like men have created a god that is very different than the One that created us. Everywhere you look we see different interpretations and somebody is always telling someone else " God Says this or that" or God wants us to do this or that and even tells us WHO God Loves and I would like to point out a few things that I discovered. Get ready for the "hives" to start buzzing and stinging me for this but if we really open our eyes to this, maybe we will see what God may really be like..
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