Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Ol Salt

Silver Springs, FL

#561256 Jul 22, 2013

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561257 Jul 22, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>You are a clueless and griefing concern troll.

"Wahhh don't mention my dead father, or my dead brother, or my single staight and childless uncle who all died in misery".

Wow god really smiles on your lot doesn't he?

"Treatment like bathing with 'your' father" did not specifically refer to YOUR father, it refers to a gay person being told to bathe with his father(or her mother) which was advocated as a way to "strengthen the sense of masculine or feminine identity and correct distorted styles of relating with members of the same and opposite gender" in their treatment of homosexuality. Even an idiot could ascertain that, you aren't even an idiot.

If "bathing with serahs daddy" is a prescription for a straight life I'm sure he'd have been a busy man given how many christian parents would want their deviant offspring cured.

You are one of the true flakes of the thread, congratulations.
I feel as you do.
I have no idea how someone could take it her way unless they intentionally want to try and make themselves the victim.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#561258 Jul 22, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm goofin' on ya. It's also a mild protest against forced acceptance of supposed social values.
Surely, you can't be serious.

I am serious, and stop calling me Shirley.
Mark

Hedel, Netherlands

#561259 Jul 22, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
See writer, Christians [know] why you are here.
You say you use to be a Christian, you left Christianity, why not move on?
I will tell you why. Gross Inferiority and Colossal Fear.
...
None of your thousands of writings bloviating or pontification or jawing your discussions or arguments will not matter one bit then.
And that is simply why you're here....FEAR. uh huh.
And the Christians here KNOW it Mr 'it aint necessarily so'
We know it.

You won't find Secular Humanists on the internet arguing against Islam in such forces as Secular Humanist argue against Christianity.
We know it. We know about your FEAR and your Inferiority Complex.

So it quite OBVIOUS to Christians that when you come here day after day after day arguing with us, we know exactly why...FEAR.

Who do you think you are kidding Doctor?
So you are saying:
People questioning this God are fearful of him.
People that dare not question this God are not afraid of him?

So who are the God-fearing? The believers or the unbelievers?

I think that there are three categories of people
- the unbelievers, either good or bad, they do not fear God
- the good believers, they are God loving people, having lived good lives they feel no fear.
- the evil believers, they are God fearing people, having lived bad lives they want to believe they are saved by grace.

I think this last category are the most stern believers. They need this belief for their self-interest. They know they deserve punishment, but they want to believe they are rewarded in stead for believing they are not punished. The need this believe the hardest and that is why they fiercely hold on to it. Basically evil people always want to appropriate what is not rightfully theirs, and that is why they claim heaven too.

In what category do you place yourself?
The good believer, or the saved by grace evil believer?

I think the churches prey on the guilt-feeling of people. We can not do evil without feeling guilty. Deep down we know we are going to pay. We just know it. So the churches created this pardon. They make people feel extra guilty and then offer pardon. But as the guilt keeps creeping up, they keep coming back for more pardon, like an addict needs new dope. It is a trillion dollar business. Do not buy into the afterlife insurances sold by churches.

You and I know deep in our heart that we meet the consequences of our actions. We can not save ourselves by wishful thinking, what the church calls hope. They not even need to convince people, as people easily want to believe they won the jackpot. I think it is a ruthless business, but it is in the nature of the evil to rip each other off.

Be honest. Do you think good people should be jailed, but bad people should be let out of jail because they believe in their pardon? Is that Divine justice? If someone murdered your family, should he be rewarded with the Hilton for saying: I am sorry, please forgive me to the highest authority? Is that your idea of Divine mercy?

Whatever you did T that made you so bitter, try to make up with love before you die. Do it while you still have the chance.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561260 Jul 22, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>Stalking is hiding in someones yard wearing night vision goggles after going through their bins.

Viewing publicly accessible information on the internet is not stalking and never will be...except to a concern troll.
Right you are.
The reason it's called "public information" is because it's there for the public to see.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#561261 Jul 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Would you say the same to a homosexual that was the victim of a hate crime?
Do give me the specifics regarding the differences...and how you could even consider either to equitable.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561262 Jul 22, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>lol.
Is that how we justify bigotry these days??
He tried, he failed.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#561263 Jul 22, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Just passing by. My thought is those cowards (lapd) have no excuse for upholding the law they swore an oath to. But what do you expect? From Obama Holder on down most in this nation don't give a damn about the word they give. I watched this live on tv and thought it was Waco again.
So did I. Catch and I were discussing what he would do, and where he would be at the time....my prospect was right on the money...just a little delayed because of his circumstance. They could not afford to let this individual have any voice in a public forum(court), so they elected to "silence" him. If I were to state pubicly what I know, I would probably suffer the very same fate.
Tonto

Upper Darby, PA

#561264 Jul 22, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>You think what you will ~ your judgement is considered and I am happy to leave it hiding there!!
Why you christians always talk judgement if you say that god is love?

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#561265 Jul 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
This Pomona person if very intelligent and correct.
Thanks for bringing this post forward.
You dont have a clue as to how foolish you look do you?

You sit there and sing the praises of Jesus daily and you haven't, for 2 years, even attempted an effort of emulating him.

I dont doubt you think he is intelligent and correct your both about as worthless as tits on a boar......Two peas in a pod......
Tonto

Upper Darby, PA

#561266 Jul 22, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Today's Prayer
Dear Father in Heaven, Please work in me today to ripen the fruit of the Spirit. Help me to bear this fruit in my life...to show and share love, joy, and peace; to be long-suffering, gentle, and good; to have strong faith; to be meek and temperate, slow to speak and quick to listen. I want to walk in the Spirit so that my life will be pleasing to you and a light in the darkness, that the world may know that You are God. With praise a
and thanksgiving, in the name of Jesus. Amen
Prime time with God
Mmmmmmm...you live too long in teepee. You know nothing of world.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561267 Jul 22, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>Serah...this post is written to you from my heart...I need to say this...I hope that you take it the way it is intended.

I truly believe that your brothers loneliness is not because he is gay. It is (IMO) because society has played a role. Society has told him that he is a vile, unworthy, filthy POS that will surely burn in hell. All of this because he wants to love someone of the same-sex. Society has robbed him from being with someone that would have changed his life...someone that could have changed loneliness to happiness.

I know a man that lost his battle to AIDS. The same disease that your brother is fighting. The difference between him and your brother...he had someone that he loved...that loved him in return...someone that he built a life with...that was by his side while AIDS deprived him of his stamina. They married during that brief time that same-sex marriage was legal in California.

Many diseases deprive someone of their stamina. My mother had rheumatoid arthritis that over the last 15 years of her life left her barely able to walk or do the things that she had done before it became so severe.

It is not my agenda to change anyone's mind on whether they agree with homosexuality or not. I only want society to let them have that chance at happiness...to not force them in to the life that your brother has experienced.

My heart goes out to him...
That was very nicely written, Annie.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561268 Jul 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, that's my claim.

[QUOTE] And why would that matter even if that were true. Violence aggression is inherited, too. It's still unacceptable. "

That depends on where the aggresion is targeted, doesn't it? I mean, football players, boxers, soldiers, etc are all trained to be aggresive and violent. If honed properly, aggression is a great thing to have in your box of tricks.

[QUOTE] Are you hoping to excuse homophobia with a demonstration that it may be biological? That won't succeed. We wouldn't care. "

Others have the opposite feeling towards homosexuality - that if it is indeed biologicl, they wouldn't care.

Why is your thoughts better than theirs?

[QUOTE] So what is your bedrock position? Why are you making a point here, and exactly what is it? Do you not agree that homophobia is unjust and harmful to people, and that it should be suppressed whatever its biological and cultural basis?
If not, where do you depart form that, and why?"

I don't agree that homophobia, in and of itself, is dangerous. I think that whe you couple discrimination with homophobia, that's incredibly dangerous - to both the gays AND to the mind of the person discriminating.

So no, I do not agree that homophobia is unjust. No more than I think hydrophobia is unjust.
I just realized something incredibly contradictory in your statements.

You think that homosexuality is not innate, but that homophobia is?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561269 Jul 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>There it is!

Now take tht feeling of confusion you have towards me not liking to see two girls making out.

Got that feeling?

Good.

Now - tell me again that homophobia is unnatural and wrong. Because what you are feeling is heterophobia, in a sense. You don't understand why I'd feel that way (as a straight man).

Comprende?
Not understanding and hating are two different things.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#561270 Jul 22, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:

.. no. However, in many instances, it leads to discrimination and much more ..
Agreed.
.. my 'quarter up the nose' is a true event. Nobody stopped it. I found the child in the fetal position, crying; his nose bleeding. This type of situation happens hundreds of times every day in every schoolyard, in every playground ..
Poor baby. I mean the kid, not you. That's awful. When I was in school, I got picked on 'cuz I was short n skinny. Then came high school and I sprouted like a wee-wee at a strip joint. By 11th grade, I was known as the bully beater-upper. I never started a fight, but I always finished them. The little nerds in school were my buddies.
.. children become bullies because of what their parents teach them. My guess? Your attitudes regarding homosexuality are a reflection of statement's made by your father, a pastor, while you were a child ..
.....siiiiiigh.....

You are correct. I've had to fight back my inner-bigot. From my grandpa hating blacks to my dad hating gays and <grunts> everything in between.

I think I'm doing pretty damn good, though. I'm really close with several "Al's", a black dude, and his wife n kids, and I even have one gay buddy, Ken. He's great, hard working, honest & he doesn't have a lisp (which makes it easier for RR, you know).

I'm winning! I'm fighting back! I'm proud.
.. it starts with you, how you teach your children ..
Indeed. A few weeks ago, my boys were in a tissy fit, my oldest son(16) got pissed and called his brother a f*ggot. I got up, went to their room and thumped his skull. I told him that's a terrible thing to say and that I don't wanna hear that in my house.
<< going to deli for fresh roast beef >>
Good girl. You'll make a helluva dishwasher, I mean wife, someday.

:p

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561271 Jul 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Possibly sometimes.
Can you demonstrate otherwise?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#561272 Jul 22, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
If I walked into a room where two babes were doin the dirty, I sure as would pull up a seat and watch if they let me.
I know you would, I think most guys would. It just doesn't do anything for me.

(I even fast forward the girl on girl porn)

*runs*
Tonto

Upper Darby, PA

#561273 Jul 22, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>I doubt after you're dead your soul will be so appreciative.
See writer, Christians [know] why you are here.
You say you use to be a Christian, you left Christianity, why not move on?
I will tell you why. Gross Inferiority and Colossal Fear.
Almost nothing you say against the Church matters, why? Because You must die.
So all this writing you write about "specimen to study" or the church is an "infection" or the Church effect on "culture"---you know none of that don't matter one crap if the Christians right and you face YHWH in rejection of his Son Jesus Christ.
None of your thousands of writings bloviating or pontification or jawing your discussions or arguments will not matter one bit then.
And that is simply why you're here....FEAR. uh huh.
And the Christians here KNOW it Mr 'it aint necessarily so'
We know it.
You won't find Secular Humanists on the internet arguing against Islam in such forces as Secular Humanist argue against Christianity.
We know it. We know about your FEAR and your Inferiority Complex.
Christians know when it comes to our faith, the rubber meets the mat in >>Spirit<< after we die. So we not really concerned about your >>Fleshly<< criticisms of the Church
So it quite OBVIOUS to Christians that when you come here day after day after day arguing with us, we know exactly why...FEAR.
So. You can write your observations about Christians and the Church on this billboard to your fellow Humanists. Trying to put on a front, that Christians and the Church are so fascinating to you from an observational POV.
While the Christians and the Church Knows, none of what you write matters, because when it come time to take that last breath, all of your analysis or discussions or pontification or bloviating you won't be thinking about, but a terrorizing trembling fear as you feel death spreading over you scared to crap that Yeshua Christ is the only Begotten Son of YHWH Almighty.
We know that writer. The Christians here know that. And this goes for your other humanist friends as well.
Who do you think you are kidding Doctor?
~~grin~~
You write much but say nothing.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#561274 Jul 22, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Because RR wants to think of homophobia as natural in some way.

Why do you automatically link homophobia to bigotry?
Because the large majority of homophobic people are bigots.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#561275 Jul 22, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course you're happy.
To belittle and try to place yourself above others is your foie gras.
O_o

Who plants grass in their foyer?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Top Stories Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Why are Europeans a race of savages, thieves, a... (Jun '15) 5 min Johnny 464
News Plurality of Americans think Trump is failing (Mar '17) 52 min Is this True 47,087
News Roman Catholic church only true church, says Va... (Jul '07) 1 hr kent 692,110
Prove there's a god. (Mar '08) 3 hr Gabriel 990,677
American Soldiers - Duty, Honor, Country (Jun '11) 5 hr DJ Crazee 39,286
beware of raymond rotolo / ps inspections llc 11 hr BEWARE_RAY_ROTOLO 1
Why I’m no longer a Christian (Jul '08) 12 hr waaasssuuup 445,850
More from around the web