“The who whating how with huh?”

Since: Dec 12

Earth

#560792 Jul 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
This is only one definition of the word, usually given as the second or third meaning in dictionaries. The shore of a river and the place where you deposit money can both be called banks. That doesn't make them the same thing.
The number one definition - the one that applies to Christianity - usually includes words like supernatural, god or deity, and worship: "the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods"
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl...
You are talking about two different things. Humanism is not a religion in the principal sense of the word, only in a metaphorical or second sense. It's closest to number 2 in this dictionary: "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects"
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religi...
A third sense of the word is even more metaphorical, and implies an intense devotion as football might be to a fanatical fan: "a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion"
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/engl...
Humanism is no more like Christianity than it is like football, even though all three can be called religions using three different definitions of the word.
Beautifully put Doc, however, might it not be easier for folks to comprehend if one simply says;

Humanism = Caring about all people and stuff.

Just a thought.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#560795 Jul 21, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
People die all the time protecting other people's children.
That is why I said unless my lifestyle changes!!

If a child is running across a road, I would automatically do my best to save the child, actually, anyone, not just a child, and the same if I was swimming or something similar.

People are being killed all the time ~ they publicly hang homosexuals in some countries today; I would not swap my life for theirs by flying over to their situation and offer myself as a deal. I know that for a fact because it is happening all the time and I haven't done it.

Neither have you and neither has most of the population of the world we live in. Even if people do die all the time protecting others children or parents, brothers or sisters. Totally different to offering oneself as a sacrifice though, by a long shot of the imagination.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#560796 Jul 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey ShrinkyDink. Say something nice.
Please.
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
nice words doesn't match with not always nice Truth
Ugly truth is that IANS is and his his clicque of immoral gays and lesbians are detestable full of s....atheistic viomits and disguist rejecting own Maker
f...them
if they spew at my Father, they spew at me too,
in return they receive fountain of cow urines, and few buckets of horse dung throw on their stupid head+ few Farts stinking like old cheesburgers mixed with not diagested Budweiser beer
Please say something nice. Like this:

Hello there, how are you doing?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#560798 Jul 21, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
<quoted text>
Beautifully put Doc, however, might it not be easier for folks to comprehend if one simply says;
Humanism = Caring about all people and stuff.
Just a thought.
Or you can say;

Humanism: We're good without God.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#560799 Jul 21, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
She's getting transgendered people mixed up with gay people.
I think lying about not posting to me anymore is the least of the problems she has.
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR... post559953
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
You mean "treatment" like making you bathe with your father?
You're sick.
>
>>Serah<
Don't ever bring my Father into your low down postings, EVER again; please. He is dead and buried, but his Soul is linked to me and what I read, he knows. You cannot imagine how my heart felt reading your sick words.
>
> http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR... post560095
> Lacez wrote:
You are horrible at reading plain English. I didn't mention your father at all.

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You clearly wrote "your father" in your first posting, and then you are saying you didn't mention "your father" at all. I think you are your own worst problem and that you love arguing with people thinking it gives you a status of satisfaction at being right.

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#560800 Jul 21, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. to me, it's toxic. Posters like d'Shrink or Adam aren't worth reading and they're on my ignore list along with a few others in this forum ..
.. we all handle things differently. Silence is a great tool. To me, slapping Serah on the skull isn't going to make her wake up. While I do not know her relationship with her brother, her sibling probably knows exactly how she feels and I will not shutdown our communication by hammering her. She 'got' the DNA error. Baby steps ..
:-)

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#560801 Jul 21, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Because Christianity does not need defending you wit.
Christianity is growing and is adding approximately 25 million new converts per yr. Christianity is healthy and thriving.
http://fastestgrowingreligion.com/numbers.htm...
Did you think Christianity needed you?? LOL..oy!lol.
So I don't need to defend Christianity from the likes of you, you're a joke. It's just your imaginations dreams and delusions why you think there is any threat to Christianity.
I go after all of you humanists. But out of all of them here, you're the most unintelligent, thus you're an easy target ~~grin~~
I could not care less what you say about Christianity the Church or Jesus Christ. It's your religious affiliation that motivates me in my attack on you. your religion is evil and it must be confronted without mercy. And as long as you're on this billboard, don't expect any less from me, "Dr".
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>And as long as you're on this billboard, don't expect any less from me, "Dr".
Nobody expects any less from you.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#560802 Jul 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
Have you made time to watch the Daily Show? Jon Oliver has been hosting all summer. He's sharp.
I saw him just once. I thought he was a permanent replacement. Just for the summer you say?
Astra

Blacktown, Australia

#560803 Jul 21, 2013
Atheists are the worst killers humanity has ever come across.

"State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government, sometimes combined with active suppression of religious freedom and practice.

State atheism in Albania was taken to an extreme during the totalitarian regime installed after World War II, when religions, identified as imports foreign to Albanian culture, were banned altogether.[30] The Agrarian Reform Law of August 1945 nationalized most property of religious institutions, including the estates of monasteries, orders, and dioceses. Many clergy and believers were tried, tortured, and executed."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism

www.atheisticviolence.wordpress.com

“The who whating how with huh?”

Since: Dec 12

Earth

#560805 Jul 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
There are plenty of homophobic women, maybe not on this thread but they're out there.
I think y'all are misinterpreting the use of the word homophobia, it's quite different than gay bashing or hatred.
Look at it this way; Does a person that is hydrophiboc hate wter or hate swimming? Neither, their fear it. They don't want to eradicate it, they just stay away from it.
I get what you're saying and I don't think it's even necessarily a phobia or something a non gay woman (insert acceptable pc term here) even wishes to stay away from. I'm of course, talking about personal experience. I personally don't care what anyone chooses to believe, faith wise, I only care when a person inflicts their choice unto me by telling me what my choice should be and in some cases even threatening me with hellfire and whatever else. Same goes for the gay issue, with me it's a non issue, I'll even fight for their rights as I believe in free will and equality and all areas, some of my best friends are gay in fact and they are some of the most beautifully kind hearted people I've ever encountered. The only thing I take issue with is someone telling me I must be a lesbian and must be with them, aggressively, by someone I mean woman, that I feel, is disrespect for another human, I don't mean joking around either.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#560807 Jul 21, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
if nobody knows how we are doing behind posts,
this word would be LIE and sticking nose in his private ugly worthless poor mexican life,or others?
please
also this word is not proper,
I never ask PLEASE
people who are abominable filthy atheistic scums and moraly dead?
rejecting own Maker is insult own creation and own life dependent for gods Air,food, sun,weather etc....all god gave us
and those stinks immoral scums steal life from God only to insult and spew at own MAKER
F....THEM+Farts huge like Skud missles at 1992 dessert Storm against S.Hussain
Sigh....

Hello, how are you?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#560808 Jul 21, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
<quoted text>
I should've said recyclic. Someone gets it.
<smile>

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#560809 Jul 21, 2013
River Tam wrote:
Your words are riveting.

lol

“The who whating how with huh?”

Since: Dec 12

Earth

#560810 Jul 21, 2013
Astra wrote:
Atheists are the worst killers humanity has ever come across.
"State atheism is the official promotion of atheism by a government, sometimes combined with active suppression of religious freedom and practice.
State atheism in Albania was taken to an extreme during the totalitarian regime installed after World War II, when religions, identified as imports foreign to Albanian culture, were banned altogether.[30] The Agrarian Reform Law of August 1945 nationalized most property of religious institutions, including the estates of monasteries, orders, and dioceses. Many clergy and believers were tried, tortured, and executed."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism
www.atheisticviolence.wordpress.com
Incorrect. Chrisjewlims/Communists *most of which are Christians of the roman variety* are.

Atheism is lack of religion and they fight to supress it with good reason, to stop wars, murder and feed starving children being some of them.

I personally think tolerance for all beliefs but at the same time if religions cannot join as one, they should be, for the good of all mankind, be eradicated completely.

Most religious people have no real faith in anything other than their own egos and the gold paved, blood stained wide road.

Keep studying though, see if you can stumble across all the information and not just what suits your agenda.

Have a lovely lovely day :-)

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#560811 Jul 21, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>That is why I said unless my lifestyle changes!!
If a child is running across a road, I would automatically do my best to save the child, actually, anyone, not just a child, and the same if I was swimming or something similar.
People are being killed all the time ~ they publicly hang homosexuals in some countries today; I would not swap my life for theirs by flying over to their situation and offer myself as a deal. I know that for a fact because it is happening all the time and I haven't done it.
Neither have you and neither has most of the population of the world we live in. Even if people do die all the time protecting others children or parents, brothers or sisters. Totally different to offering oneself as a sacrifice though, by a long shot of the imagination.
Agreed! Except the "offering as a sacrifice part".

Since: Sep 10

Hong Kong

#560812 Jul 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I know. You already told me.
Hahaha.

Very good.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#560813 Jul 21, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
<quoted text>
I get what you're saying and I don't think it's even necessarily a phobia or something a non gay woman (insert acceptable pc term here) even wishes to stay away from. I'm of course, talking about personal experience. I personally don't care what anyone chooses to believe, faith wise, I only care when a person inflicts their choice unto me by telling me what my choice should be and in some cases even threatening me with hellfire and whatever else. Same goes for the gay issue, with me it's a non issue, I'll even fight for their rights as I believe in free will and equality and all areas, some of my best friends are gay in fact and they are some of the most beautifully kind hearted people I've ever encountered. The only thing I take issue with is someone telling me I must be a lesbian and must be with them, aggressively, by someone I mean woman, that I feel, is disrespect for another human, I don't mean joking around either.
Then what say you now to the "cure" of homophobia, like a cure for smallpox?

That would remove a person's human right to choice.

I mean, you wrote "I only care when a person inflicts their choice unto me by telling me what my choice should be"

That goes all the way around, affecting everybody and everything.

Nobody *has to* feel at ease with homosexuality, right? Just as no one should tell women that they can't get an abortion because their choices somehow supersede yours.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#560814 Jul 21, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
<quoted text>
I get what you're saying and I don't think it's even necessarily a phobia or something a non gay woman (insert acceptable pc term here) even wishes to stay away from. I'm of course, talking about personal experience. I personally don't care what anyone chooses to believe, faith wise, I only care when a person inflicts their choice unto me by telling me what my choice should be and in some cases even threatening me with hellfire and whatever else. Same goes for the gay issue, with me it's a non issue, I'll even fight for their rights as I believe in free will and equality and all areas, some of my best friends are gay in fact and they are some of the most beautifully kind hearted people I've ever encountered. The only thing I take issue with is someone telling me I must be a lesbian and must be with them, aggressively, by someone I mean woman, that I feel, is disrespect for another human, I don't mean joking around either.
You aren't a lesbian, that is for sure.

“A Universal Cause”

Since: Feb 09

The Cosmos

#560815 Jul 21, 2013
We are the Kingdom some never found
the One most cannot see.
We are the Knowledge many have not known
the Truth which set us free

We are the Light who showed the way
to the path most did not follow
We are the Sound within each word
The Word which to most sounds hollow

We are the Reason so many search
for the grail that is called 'holy'
we are the Beginning and the End
between all the Real and the phony...
~ IR

" For to us God revealed them through the Spirit; for the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God. For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may know the things freely given to us by God, which things we also speak, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit, combining spiritual thoughts with spiritual words."
1 Corinthians 2:10-13

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#560816 Jul 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I agree only when we mean natural as in not supernatural, but not when we mean it as in not artificial. In this second sense, some things are natural and some things are man-made. In the first sense, even the man made stuff is natural. And natural doesn't mean good or acceptable. Smallpox is natural. So what?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
That IS my point. Just as smallpox is natural, so is homophobia. Am I wrong?
You are correct that homophobia isn't supernatural. You are wrong if you say it isn't an artifact of human culture.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Homophobia is a creation of human culture. It is an irrational and unjust idea that hurts people. It doesn't get into heads until it is put there. I would bet that deaf and blind people are never homophobic unless you can find some way to inject that idea into their heads anyway - maybe with braille.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Pure speculation, a non-answer.
It was a very good and correct answer.

To think otherwise is to say that homophobia is a natural instinct like the fear of heights, a trait acquired genetically. Infants are naturally afraid of heights:

"Scientists think that a fear of heights is a successful adaptation to our world, where falls from height are dangerous. Experiments have shown that infants and young children are naturally cautious around heights. This suggests that people are born with a dislike of heights."
http://www.planet-science.com/categories/over...

If homophobia were a biological trait hardwired into human minds by evolution like the fear of heights, it would be easy to demonstrate. We might expect to see in children old enough to know what homosexuality was, and there would be no cultures at all without pervasive homophobia.

Furthermore, the rate at which tolerance for gays is occurring in Christian cultures would be inexplicable. Only cultural evolution and not biological evolution occurs over as short a time span as less than a lifetime.

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