Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#559881 Jul 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
There are four "witnesses" that disagree. That makes sense.
The problem for Christianity since 350 AD is trying to make them all agree.
IMEO, the Gospel of Mark is the probably the most accurate, Matthew adds to the legend, Luke collects diverse tall tales and John simply piles it high and deep.
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I tend to think those discrepancies were left intact for the specific purpose of allowing conjecture and 'wiggling room" within, "interpretation".

Like a built in personal disclaimer system.

'WELL, LUKE SAYS..."

BUT REMEMBER, MATTHEW WROTE THIS..."

"THE VERSION BY MARK IS..."

The end result being that people can claim it's all about personal revelation.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#559882 Jul 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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As usual
This is why you remain willfully ignorant.
ROFLMAO

Sure! I should have went to Bible College instead of Universities.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#559883 Jul 19, 2013
Christians like you just get your rocks off saying the same incorrect shit over and over again.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#559884 Jul 19, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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No I'm not, anymore. Not entirely sure I ever was. I'm awake and free. No religion for me.
.. WOW! Now you are free to walk the spiritual path of your choice ..

.. enjoy yourself !! be free !! walk proud !!

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#559885 Jul 19, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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Wow, that's pure golld.
Hey Lupy!

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#559886 Jul 19, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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The end result being that people can claim it's all about personal revelation.
I think that is what it was supposed to be. Sadly, "The Church" screwed THAT up.

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#559888 Jul 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
There are four "witnesses" that disagree. That makes sense.
The problem for Christianity since 350 AD is trying to make them all agree.
IMEO, the Gospel of Mark is the probably the most accurate, Matthew adds to the legend, Luke collects diverse tall tales and John simply piles it high and deep.
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No problem for me. They all agree and always have. It is easy to make things look like they disagree just as scar just did. There is no contradiction and Jesus didn't lie. The things he said openly is what was explained to the disciples. No lie, and I bet if someone were to look up a few words it would give even more clarity. I keep hearing about all of these contradictions but am yet to see any. No, I can not explain Mary and Joseph going to Egypt. But that doesn't mean it can't be done. In fact I throw a possibility out right now. Mary and Joseph went to Egypt and the king or what ever died soon there after. They returned and finished out the things that were required with Jesus and then went there way. The key being going to Egypt before finishing and returning to finish. It is quite easy. If there is one possibility then it can not be claimed as a contradiction. I have been giving some of you guys to easy of a time as you are giving others a hard time. claiming things to facts that are not facts. Hope all is going well with you this evening G :)

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#559889 Jul 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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It too would have died out if it hadn't been wholly paganized.
I agree, the Hellenization that had already begun to permeate Judaism was finally made accessible to the masses(pagans) when Christianity emerged on the scene.

Christianity contained elements that were acceptable to a broad range of religious belief systems at the time.

Rome gave it the final spit shine, and later enforced it, no less.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#559891 Jul 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Been there done that.
I don't wanna bother again.
I'll just point out your skeptic apologetics and you'll refute by pointing out my Christian apologetics.
What's the point?
In other words, you are deflecting, because you know you can not refute what was said.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#559892 Jul 19, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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I tend to think those discrepancies were left intact for the specific purpose of allowing conjecture and 'wiggling room" within, "interpretation".
Like a built in personal disclaimer system.
'WELL, LUKE SAYS..."
BUT REMEMBER, MATTHEW WROTE THIS..."
"THE VERSION BY MARK IS..."
The end result being that people can claim it's all about personal revelation.
The "makings" of a "perfect con".

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#559893 Jul 19, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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IOW - The only type of free will you can accept is absolute free will to do whatever you want.
Guess what?
God already gave that to you.
If you are punished for knowingly doing something wrong, you'd still blame God.
No, those are your words, not my words.

You do that often.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

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#559894 Jul 19, 2013
Dr shrink wrote:
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HL jealous frick is in action with AAA deep inside of her hole without of bottom?
fart at your red huge alcoholic nose swollen by your friend dr Shrink farts?
.. the obscene world of a Christian psychotic ..

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#559895 Jul 19, 2013
scaritual wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*waits for an atheist to deny that*
*....and waits*
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Yeah, and I think you'd probably agree, that is a limited type of free will that humans can exercise.
Our immediate and current actions may not be the result of free will, like having to crossing terrain, physical limitations, or that we do have to eat and sleep, etc. But, reflecting on those actions and what we did once and what we had little choice in during that first encounter, and will do later, allows us to modify how we react to those relatively immutable aspects of physical existence we face. So I think we do have free will in that respect. But, no matter how we may choose to traverse or encounter something in the future, and even currently, if it's a mountain, for instance, we still have to cross it, or go around it, or dig a tunnel through it. We still must go from point A >to> point B, and that path may not be due to a choice of free will, but necessity alone, and unavoidable.
As far as the deity given "free will".
I don't think there is rational reason or logic that you can apply to a god concept that would create special beings with free will, and then; Restrict that free will by demanding we don't use it freely. Give us an inquisitive yearning for knowledge that is all around us, then punish us for using either of those things that the god placed there for us to choose from in the first place, by demanding our deaths, or, blind submission to the notion of - "These are the only types of free will that I approve of, have faith in this and follow my rules, or die"
We don't have free will. We have free choice. The consequences of our choices are what they are.

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#559896 Jul 19, 2013
scaritual wrote:
I've seen some BAD mushrooms in my day.

http://dsmedia.ign.com/ds/image/article/695/6...

RiversideRedneck

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#559898 Jul 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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ROFLMAO
Sure! I should have went to Bible College instead of Universities.
It'd help you understand the bible more.

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#559899 Jul 19, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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Wow, that's pure golld.
WOW that was pure BS

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#559901 Jul 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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I think that is what it was supposed to be. Sadly, "The Church" screwed THAT up.
If there was any message in that book, or related by that person named and claimed to be the Jesus!, then it was you don't need an authority to tell you what to do, you know what is right or wrong, you can do that all by yourselves, treat each other well, now get on with it.

It's a pretty old philosophical message. Maybe the oldest one of all.

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#559902 Jul 19, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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They don't say freewill is no existent.
They say that BASED ON CHRISTIANITY'S BELIEF that God knows what you will do before you do, it negates the possibility of freewill.
You aren't very bright. That might be why you are a Christian.
I disagree it does not negate our free choice. If my parents put a plate of spaghetti in front of me and a plate of cabbage in front of me. They would know what I would choose. But it would still be up to me to choose. Just because someone says it negates the possibility of free will (though freedom to choose is more accurate) doesn't in any way mean it is true. And in fact it isn't true.

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#559903 Jul 19, 2013
JuicyLullz wrote:
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Wow, that's pure golld.
awww, shucks..

“It's Time. . .”

Since: Jun 13

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#559904 Jul 19, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. you're not a Christian? OMG! All this time I thought you were. Are you serious ??..
I think she was always a bit confused on that one.

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