Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#553535 Jul 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
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Those words apply to the words belonging to man(kind) Catcher; but no to GOD nor JESUS. For all those that say they are not real,....
All you had to write is, "I am not a Ray Charles fan."

Wow!

All that over song lyrics ?

Seriously ?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#553536 Jul 2, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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What about now?
I guess it's too late?
The treatment worked as far as looks. The rest I learned to live with for the last 45 years.

Since: Mar 09

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#553537 Jul 2, 2013
Edit Annie

I would that what I think needs to be looked at is possible causality

I have no doubt some pedophiles are born that way

However we know for a fact a lot of times it is learned behavior. For whatever reason, someone that was abused will turn into an abuser

One would think a victim of abuse would be the last one to continue the cycle yet they are often the first. Why?

Is it the abuse left them without empathy for others? Is it a need hurt others as they have been hurt? Is it simply repeating learned behavior during formative years?

We know someone can learn to be a pedophile but we don't know exactly how that is or why. And this is where I think the focus needs to be.

Someone who is homosexual may experience that lack of empathy for others if they were treated poorly. They may also want to lash out. Can a societal belief of what is "deviant" effect how someone looks at other deviant behavior?

The answer why the rate of homosexual abusers is higher may simply be cyclical. And so the pattern of abuse remains the same rate for learned behavior. But a reason for looking into this may be a positive. Perhaps treating homosexuals poorly in society pushes some to become abusers? Or perhaps having to repress a sexual identity or outlet can push someone in this direction? If that is the case it might also change how we look at things like vows of celibacy

I have no idea what if any things may be connected. My only concern is the children. But I am just saying if proportionally one group abuses more and abuse can be a learned behavior, we need to look at every possible cause to see if as a society there is anything we can change or anything we have culpability in

I personally would like to know why abusers repeat the cycle. Although would we get honest answers from them? In any event, I think that is the place to start. As part of sentencing i believe abusers need to undergo psychological exams so as a society we can figure out why this learned behavior is engaged in

JMO

Since: Oct 12

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#553538 Jul 2, 2013
My son forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments.

For length of days and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.

Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart.

So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.

Trust in the Lord with all thine heart: and lean not unto thine own understanding.

In all ways acknowledge him and he shall direct thy path.

Be not wise in thine own eyes; fear the Lord and depart from evil.
Proverbs 3:1-7

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#553539 Jul 2, 2013
It shall be health to thy navel and marrow to thy bones.

Honour the Lord with thy substance and with the firstfruits of all thine increase.

So shall thy barns be filled with plenty and thy presses shall burst out with new wine.

My son despise not the chastening of the Lord; neither be weary of his correction:

For whom the Lord loveth the correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

Happy is the man that findeth wisdom and the man that getteth understanding.

For the merchandise of it is better than the merchandise of silver and the gain thereof than fine gold.
proverbs 3:8-14

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#553540 Jul 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Russell covers that well in his section entitled "The Moral Problem"
http://www.users.drew.edu/~jlenz/whynot.html
"Christ certainly as depicted in the Gospels did believe in everlasting punishment,...
One should understand that Jesus was a Jew. Even today the Jewish concept of "an everlasting Hell" is what in common terms is called a "guilty conscience".

How many people do you know that are "haunted" by mistakes of the past, will "carry guilt to their grave". We can carry these feelings over accidental and purposeful actions to the extreme and create for ourselves a "Hell on earth" in our psyches.

However, it is possible that Jesus had been Hellenized and had adopted pagan beliefs in an afterlife thus a Tartarus and Elesian Fields dichotic hereafter concepts.

In the later case, one could argue (depending on the Jewish doctrine)that he was a sinful Jew OR that there was nothing wrong with postmortem speculation.

In reality, if the Sanhedrin wanted to get rid of him it would have been for far more things that Jesus said than claiming to be the Messiah (which never was, nor is, blasphemy in Judaism).

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#553541 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Oh, ok. Sorry.
I concede that, I misunderstood you.
No problem.

Do not take things literally. Communication is far more than words.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#553542 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Legally? No. They are illegal killing, hence murder.
Then mafia 'executions' are not 'executions'.

Did you know that Latin (Romans) had more words for
'kill' and 'death' than any other language ?

Since: Oct 12

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#553543 Jul 2, 2013
She is more precious than rubies: and all the things thou canst desire are not to be compared unto her.

Length of days is in her right hand and in her left hand riches and honour.

Her ways are ways of pleasantness and all her paths are peace.

She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her.

The Lord by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.

By his knowledge the depths are broken up and the clouds drop down the dew.
Proverbs 3:15-20
Mark

Hedel, Netherlands

#553544 Jul 2, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>It is a natural separation as the results of our work ~ why do you think our future realm would be the continuation of argument and disbelief? Do you think the next realm should have debates about their being a next world, or do you think there would be a natural progression, those are still asking questions and tossing insults around heading that way and those that are seeking to care for each other this way? Do you think we should take all that is wrong in this world and drag it around forever, letting it get worse along the way? We will be the results of the nourishment of our DNA ~ just like the caterpillar to a degree, and accordingly, we are building our own futures. When we give up our Soul, we want to make sure that we are giving up something ...... and I'll leave that something up to the individual, because we don't all have the same expectation of outcome :)
Hi Serah,

I am not quite following you. What next realm are you talking about? And what do you mean about giving up our Soul?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#553545 Jul 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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...
I believe he's as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
You're as queer as a three dollar bill.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#553546 Jul 2, 2013
The end-runs around Roe v. Wade if allowed to continue will eventually give the state the right to force women to have abortions.

THAT was an opinion of one of the justices deciding RvW.

"Sold his birthright for a mess of pottage." THAT is what America is doing.
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. Christianity has always been a white patriarchal religion that embraces the enslavement of others be it blacks, atheists, gays, Hispanics or females ..
.. yesterday, Ohio passed a stringent abortion law that virtually withdraws a woman's right to her body. What's missing from this picture ??..
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ohio...
.. do you see any women? You guessed it !!- a Christian governor flanked by men ..
.. in Texas today, another draconian anti-abortion bill will probably pass. Who presented it? You guessed it !!- a Christian governor and his male cohorts. This bill even prevents rape crisis centers from counseling a woman on her options and will make abortion in TX virtually illegal ..
.. turn about is fair play, right? If men can tell women what they can and cannot do with their womb, women should be able to tell men what they can and cannot do with their penis. Wouldn't you agree ??..

Since: Oct 12

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#553547 Jul 2, 2013
My son, let not them depart from thine eyes: keep sound wisdom and discretion:

So shall they be life unto thy soul and grace to thy neck.

Then shalt thou walk in thy way of safely and thy foot shall not stumble.

When thou liest down, thou shalt not be afraid: yea thou shalt lie down and thy sleep shall be sweet.

Be not afraid of sudden fear neither of the desolation of the wicked when it cometh.

For the Lord shall be thy confidence and shall keep thy foot from being taken.

Withhold not good from them to whom it is due, when it is the power of thine hand to do it.
Proverbs 3:21-27

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#553548 Jul 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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*looks around*
Nah, I'm good.
Naw.

You're not.

But pretending seems to be your forte.

Since: Mar 09

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#553549 Jul 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. Christianity has always been a white patriarchal religion that embraces the enslavement of others be it blacks, atheists, gays, Hispanics or females ..
.. yesterday, Ohio passed a stringent abortion law that virtually withdraws a woman's right to her body. What's missing from this picture ??..
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ohio...
.. do you see any women? You guessed it !!- a Christian governor flanked by men ..
.. in Texas today, another draconian anti-abortion bill will probably pass. Who presented it? You guessed it !!- a Christian governor and his male cohorts. This bill even prevents rape crisis centers from counseling a woman on her options and will make abortion in TX virtually illegal ..
.. turn about is fair play, right? If men can tell women what they can and cannot do with their womb, women should be able to tell men what they can and cannot do with their penis. Wouldn't you agree ??..
You can do whatever you want with your body

You can tattoo it, dye it, cut it, pierce it, and use it it for pretty much whatever you want without needing the consent of anyone...so long as it doesn't hurt others

Pro-Life advocates are concerned about the completely separate life and body within your body. The one with separate brain-waves, heart-beat, emotions, pain-centers, hands and fingers, etc.

A newborn is also responsible for others to live. It is still murder to kill a newborn

I have pretty much conceded overturning Roe vs Wade is not the best approach. We would never be able to practically enforce it as everywhere from the cops to prosecutors to courts to jails couldn't handle the load. It would create serious problems for doctor/client confidentiality. Many women would still continue to get abortions illegally, especially with things now available like the morning after pill. And too many other details to get into.

The better focus would be on education, contraception, counseling as to options such as adoption and services available for single mothers, which btw Pro-Right activists have fought tooth and nail for what reason I can't imagine as why would anybody want someone to have an abortion based on ignorance? We also need better foster care programs. Cranking out unwanted babies with nobody to care for them and then jailing mothers who might already have other kids to take care of isn't a good solution imo. Sad as it is, sometimes as a society we just have to be practical.

But let me ask you a very serious question. I have no intention of some long drawn-out debate as I concede going in this issue has probably been talked about a lot by people and almost never results in a change of position. But the question is this:

Do you think it is morally right to abort an unborn baby at:

8 months and 29 days?
8 months and 28 days?
8 months and 27 days?

If you could count backwards for me and let me know when it becomes ok and why, on what day, please let me know. Counting forwarding with some arbitrary cutoff date is easier to justify for some, though no different imo. But counting backwards, what day does it become ok? And if you can't pick a day, how can you rule out the POSSIBILITY at least that this was always a life?

Since: Oct 12

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#553550 Jul 2, 2013
Say not unto thy neighbor, Go, and come again, and tomorrow I will give: when thou hast it by thee.

Devise not evil against thy neighbour, seeing he dwelleth securely by thee.

Strive not with a man without cause, if he done you no harm.

Envoy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways.

For the forward is abomination to the Lord: but his secret is with the righteous.

The curse of the Lord is in the house of the wicked: but he blesseth the habitation of the just.

Surely he scorneth the scorners: but giveth grace unto the lowly.

The wise shall inherit glory: but shame shall be the promotion of fools.
Proverbs 3:28-35

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#553551 Jul 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Good Morning RA
I absolutely believe that
The reasons he gives make zero sense
And there are so many other countries he could have went to that are so much better where he would still have the same advantages yet not be somewhere that minimum age is $5 a day for the country for non-professionals and $8 for them
Yet look at the proximity to the United States. Just far enough away where he can't be extradited or charged for civil cases. Yet the absolute closest to it where he could still sneak back across avoid process servers to see family
Everything about it looks like someone who wanted to make sure they just got across the border for legal reasons. Add to that the way he talked about his patients and how he would get rid of them if they didn't follow his instructions and the way he wrote scripts while denying blatantly obvious truths about addictive medication and it would all line up.
And I bet you this is when his Internet campaign took off
It was probably a Christian that sued him
JMO
.. for me, Red Apples hit an all-time low by insisting Alice (River Tam) is lying about her leg amputation. Your thoughts ??..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#553552 Jul 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
The end-runs around Roe v. Wade if allowed to continue will eventually give the state the right to force women to have abortions.
.. I'm not tracking. Can you provide a bit of explanation ??..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#553553 Jul 2, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>**PORTIONS SNIPPED**
Do you think it is morally right to abort an unborn baby at:
8 months and 29 days?
8 months and 28 days?
8 months and 27 days?
If you could count backwards for me and let me know when it becomes ok and why, on what day, please let me know. Counting forwarding with some arbitrary cutoff date is easier to justify for some, though no different imo. But counting backwards, what day does it become ok? And if you can't pick a day, how can you rule out the POSSIBILITY at least that this was always a life?
.. at 8+ months, you have a baby, not a zygote or fetus. There's a difference ..

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#553554 Jul 2, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. for me, Red Apples hit an all-time low by insisting Alice (River Tam) is lying about her leg amputation. Your thoughts ??..
I haven't seen it

But I thought i made this abundantly clear already

I absolutely refuse to explain myself when it comes to admonishing friends to someone who doesn't do it herself

Not only you don't do it, you go to the absolutely realms of absurdity to defend it

IE: "filthy gay liar"

I have never in my life seen a group of people try to call others out for not rebuking hard enough or not rebuking enough when they don't rebuke at all

When you show you are capable of rebuking a friend on ethical and moral grounds, then perhaps we can talk. And at that point I will explain to you how unethical it is to try to use a rebuke over moral or ethical grounds as Topix currency. I am responsible for what I say. And there are a couple of things you will never see me do on Topix

1) Be an ass to someone who gives a sincere apology

2) Call someone out for not rebuking enough or hard enough

It makes a mockery out of what should be givens. What should be just unwritten, understood rules in civil society. These aren't things you try to get cheap leverage from. Even if from an enemy, you tip your cap in this regard.

From the day you came here and thought emotionally blackmailing into admitting where i stand on homosexuality and societal issues thinking i would have to choose between being perceived as a bigot or fighting with other Christians gave me a very good understanding of how you operate. Had you understood me better you would have known why I wasn't worried about giving my opinion, although out of principle I put it off for a bit as I found your tactics disturbing

Those are my thoughts. You need any more?

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