Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#552451 Jun 28, 2013
Bongo wrote:
<quoted text> are you trying to say if ians said it then it aint necessarily so?
Exactly!

I told him he should change his name to

"it aint necessarily true"

But yeah, I guess he can keep it as is!

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#552452 Jun 28, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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Well, our stories are too logical for most people to get their head around. We don't have a sky daddy that created a son, who then created the world. We also don't believe that a human could die and come back to life, making his sacrifice not a sacrifice. I guess it doesn't appeal to people who r obsessed with miracles.
Fair enough.

So you guys don't believe in elephants astride a giant turtle?

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#552453 Jun 28, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I know they do and I'm fed up it.
I just told u that the caste system is so precious, I never said i hated it. We need the caste system!! But White people keep smashing the caste system because they don't understand sh*t about it. Our younger generations have also started going against the caste system, but those idiots never go against the class system.
You just don't get it. The caste system is NOT the class system. The class system is based on money, wealth, power etc...the caste system isn't. The caste system was to do with intellect. You should read 'Plato's Republic' to get a better understanding. In India the caste system was corrupted. This was due to greedy Hindus, the Muslims and the wonderful British. The class system has taken over India, it has taken over the whole world, the caste system is just a show.
A poor person can be from a high caste. It has nothing to do with money!! A brahmin will always be a brahmin, even if he becomes poor. If he adopts the behaviour of shudras, then he is no longer a brahmin. This is clearly stated in the Hindu and Sikh scriptures, shudras have been called brahmins and vice versa.
The USA is all about class system. You won't see an educated, rich person marrying a toilet cleaner. Come on, open your eyes. The class system is everywhere! The west and the east is controlled by people who have a lot of money in their pockets. They r not the brahmins.
You don't have much understanding about our culture, so there's no point. I would have to sit here and explain all the Indian History and give u quotes from our scriptures and that is just going take too long, coz u still not going to believe me.
Peace!
You believe that all people from the sub-continent should be treated differently in accordance with their caste?

Since: Mar 09

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#552454 Jun 28, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
<quoted text>
I’m glad you are glad I was here.:) It’s always good to hear from you friend. I’m not really going to be back on now I just thought some of you might like to know about that.
Yes all is well, concidering I’m no longer a spring chicken. LOL I hope you are good too. It’s nice not to have to wade through all the, to make it simpler I’ll just say hogwash. I’m sure you know what all the hogwash is. LOL
HFN
I am going to miss you

Is there anyway to contact you?

Does anybody have an email they could t-mail to me?

If not i can post a yahoo one I have

I definitely would like to be able to touch base just to know how you are doing

Wish you all the best

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

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#552455 Jun 28, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
I, for one, don't want to see churches forced to marry gay couples, or any couples for that matter. If they want to exclude black couples, interracial couples, or whatever, I want them to be able to do that.
The main reason is, I want people to see how prejudiced and backwards the religion is when it's not being legally obligated to do better.
The secondary reason is fairness. The government should not force churches to provide a public service, unless of course the churches are publicly subsidized. Ooops.
Tax-exempt is not the same as being publicly subsidized

And you should oppose it on the basis of the governemnt shouldn't be able to force any private institution to do anything so long as what they do is in accordance to the law

What if your pretend Internet group of "secular humanists" was real and you were forced to accept Christin membership? It would kind of defeat the purpose no?

But regardless of the result, it is the principle at stake. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship

Since: Mar 09

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#552457 Jun 28, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks
You passed up my question: where is a place of refuge where your GOD promised?
Examples:jim jones, david koresh, harold camping, and many more, pastor/pimps.
You seem to be reluctant in admitting this is a total, not partly, entertainment site. We are all here because it's "Free".
Anyone actually "full" of joy wouldn't come to an entertainment site to express joy, at least not me. We all would like to be in a better position in this life, professing christians on this thread for the moment maybe content, but not happy, that's why some continually beg and beg a GOD for this and that.
Are Professing christians "insecure"?...Believ ers and non-believers are pretty-much here for the same reason,.."Entertainment ".
A GOD is not real,.. that's why people seek out people!
Mike

I have explained you this before

Just because people have God in their life doesn't mean they are not allowed to have friends or seek comfort from humans

The Bible promotes fellowship constantly

I don't know what you don't understand

My only guess is that perhaps you are a loner, you may have even admitted as much, and perhaps it irks you to see people who are not. Because i have never come across anybody in my life before you that gets so agitated by people engaging in friendship or providing comfort, and to the point where you mock people for offering a shoulder to someone who lost a loved one and claim the person who shared that is lying

I don't know why positive human emotion aggravates you so much

But we are allowed friends Mike. It is even encouraged

Ecclesiastes 4:9-10
Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their work: If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up!

Since: Mar 09

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#552458 Jun 28, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Lacez.
I do not think Skombolis deserves a reply from you, or anyone else.
He makes insults and lies about other posters, slandering and twisting words is what he does best.
Like I said, this is his Heaven,.sad really.
I am amazed at the amount of posters here who will call other "Christians" out on bad behavior yet,
Give this guy a free pass on being one of the biggest troublemakers on this thread.
So many hypocrites here.
I am just glad you do not let Skombolis bother you in anyway.
He is nothing more than a fool...a buffoon..
Wishing you a good day.
LOL

"buffoon" huh?

You really want in the troll-group huh? You are even copying them!

How can a person who lied about being a Christian for four years and only shows up to insult say anything about hypocrisy?

In fact let's look at these two sentences side-by-side

LeLe said

"He makes insults and lies about other posters..."

"He is nothing more than a fool...a buffoon.."

LOL. oh LeLe, scamper back to obscurity. Someone posing as a Christian for four years has no credibility. Especially not one as hypocritical as you

Since: Mar 09

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#552459 Jun 28, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
appy Lesbo wrote:seriously, if Grace conquered drug addiction by turning to God, why is that a problem ??..
<quoted text>
.. addicts like Grace practice their beliefs in a group setting or in private. I cannot understand the "you swapped one addiction for another" argument. Why do you think it's true ??..
.. as long as religion does no harm, IMO everyone is entitled to their personal belief system. I believe my daughter is the most beautiful little girl in the whole wide world. Am I correct? Perhaps not but my belief hurts nobody ..
.. if Epi wants to post a 'Thought of the Day,' a prayer and a quote, who does it hurt? The evil in Arahamic religions lies in the, "I'm right, you're wrong," concept grounded in personal interpretation of the bible. This is ego, not spirituality ..
.. you can't develop wisdom with a closed mind. I know a master when I hear or read one - there's an awareness, a serenity, a compassion and an acceptance that is impossible to fake. I want what these people have ..
Credit where it is due

Good post
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Personal observation and experience.
It is not a bad thing. Even tobacco addicts often employ 'substitution methodologies" to quit smoking.
While some use the "one addiction for another" as an insult, I do not.
Imagine if one could substitute heroin addiction with caffeine addiction. Would that be so bad ?
But, because the most common "treatment" for alcoholism and drug addiction is "spiritual" group therapy it has become a target here.
Would they rather be married to an abusive drunkard or a harmless "Jesus freak" ?
I'll take the latter.
Good explanation

Although generally "substituting addictions" gives a negative connotation. It implies equality and one negative for a different negative

Perhaps it would be better to say "replaced an addiction" than "swapped"

But I liked your explanation

(T) Peace

Since: Mar 09

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#552460 Jun 28, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. many believers on this thread will object to this post but if they use logic, they'll understand why churches must be treated like any other non-profit entity ..
.
Again, your post implies believer generally aren't capable of using logic

Perhaps instead of stereotyping and assuming you should simply wait and see what the truth actually is

I have no problem with any organization being held to the rules for tax-exempt

Even more, I don't want my church politicking as I don't think that should be its purpose

Please provide the reasons for why you assume many would object?

Just blind bigotry that tells you Christians are illogical and also feel their organization should not have to follow the law?

Its weird because some posts you seem not to be bigoted. But those are normally posts to women or in defense of a woman and maybe that isn't your real agenda?

Posts like these make it all too clear what you really think about Christians

Or again, maybe your agenda is to kiss up to Ians and you really aren't as bigoted as you come across?

With you one never really knows the motivation do they?

Since: Mar 09

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#552461 Jun 28, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>

Humanists have radically different ideas about human sacrifice. We consider it wrong,not unnecessary.
By humanists, are you talking about you and your 3 buddies on the Internet?

Can you post a membership list?

I am curious as to who is spearheading the Tidal wave on this little corner of the Topix world

And oh yeah, as usual you are wrong. There is a difference between human sacrifice and someone who gives up their life as a martyr for others

He was killed by the government, this was not a human sacrifice being performed. We call it a sacrifice because we know He did it for us

Since: Mar 09

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#552462 Jun 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Disagree about what?
You and I never disagree!
And don't go disagreeing with that.
~sigh

Word games are like Internet porn to you aren't they?

What is your fantasy? Finding a typo within a play on words?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#552463 Jun 28, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I think I agree with on you this.
If being gay is biological then they shouldn't be discriminated for it.
If Being Gay is a choice then they should have the freedom to make that choice and not be discriminated for it.
let your freak flag fly, DOG, no one is stopping you.....

Since: Mar 09

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#552464 Jun 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>
And what difference does it make if sexual orientation is a choice or not?
It must make some

Tide and Catcher have explained that is why Ians isn't a bigot despite his many, many bigoted comments and sweeping negative stereotypes and insults of all Christians, including the hundreds of millions he hasn't met because we choose to be Christian

And of course there goes the whole indoctrination and brain-washing argument

If it makes no difference, then Ians is a bigot

Which is more important to you guys, defending against bigotry or defending Ians?

Don't answer, I already know. The former is all for show and the latter is what really matters

Since: Mar 09

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#552466 Jun 28, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Sooo....... If sexual orientation is not a choice then they can be denied rights?!
O_o
You ain't making sense, counselor.
Right

This is just what he did with his Miranda example

If he says if it isn't a choice they can't be denied rights, that obviously implies they can be if it is a choice

Somebody wouldn't even need opposing counsel with this guy, just turn him lose and let him bury himself

Since: Mar 09

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#552467 Jun 28, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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That's because I'm becoming apathetic to you.
You responded to him to tell him the reason you didn't respond to him is because you are apathetic to him!

If that was true you wouldn't have made this post!

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#552468 Jun 28, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>It must make some

Tide and Catcher have explained that is why Ians isn't a bigot despite his many, many bigoted comments and sweeping negative stereotypes and insults of all Christians, including the hundreds of millions he hasn't met because we choose to be Christian

And of course there goes the whole indoctrination and brain-washing argument

If it makes no difference, then Ians is a bigot

Which is more important to you guys, defending against bigotry or defending Ians?

Don't answer, I already know. The former is all for show and the latter is what really matters
You've confused my asking what difference it makes whether its a choice or not with suggesting that it IS a choice.

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#552469 Jun 28, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. while I applaud your research, knowledge and articulation, for me, your conclusions still feel wrong ..
.. while Grace & Epi may be 'doing the work of the Lord,' they harm no one. Do you consider their dedication and faith evil ??..
.. again, calling them simple-minded only incurs animosity when we're trying to find common ground..
Yet you have posted things like believers don't incorporate logic while arguing over their pointless dogma and that most believers would not agree their church has to follow the law but if they would use logic they would see it

I would love to see a post where you say something that shows you aren't a bigot when it doesn't involve women. Maybe not women you haven't made posts about sliding your hand up their thighs

I generally would never use a positive post to criticize someone but it is starting to annoy me how fake it is seeming. This pattern just persists.

Since: Jan 11

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#552470 Jun 28, 2013
Clementia wrote:
Well, u just gotta take the risk and see, puddin'! ;-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0waJ2zHkqowXX
I'm gonna watch batman!
I'll make you a hat with a pudding storage compartment!

Since: Mar 09

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#552471 Jun 28, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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Yeah, I was thinking of ignoring his further posts again, and I will.
Oh pleased don't!

I have a big week ahead of me and I need my sleep!

Sleep that will never come if you ignore my posts! LOL

You are the one that initiates posts to me dummy! I have never thought "hmm, I wonder what that total idiot thinks about this. I am sure his input will be useful"

~snicker

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#552472 Jun 28, 2013
Aerobatty wrote:
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You've confused my asking what difference it makes whether its a choice or not with suggesting that it IS a choice.
no I didn't

Many times Ians has made blatantly bigoted comments about Christians. Several of us have taken these comments and removed the word "Christian" and replaced it with "gay" to illustrate how obviously bigoted it would be if said about another group

The argument presented was it isn't an accurate comparison as we choose to be Christian and they don't choose to be gay.

Still not sure how that explains why choosing to believe in God gives him the right to negatively stereotype hundreds of millions of people he has never met as immoral and unethical and claim we shouldn't have the right to exercise our faith in public and should be subject to ridicule if we do.

But any argument defending bigotry is stupid by definition

Regardless, their point was it isn't bigoted because we chose to be Christian and they didn't choose to be gay. So if they did choose, then finally even by their own warped logic, Ians is a bigot

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