“Ditat Deus”

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#549329 Jun 21, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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He's looking for manna.
Then he should check his wallet, that's where his EBT card is...

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#549330 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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For starters, numb nuts, Catholics don't think they can pray to God, they think they have to pray to a saint and the saint will 'pass along the message'. They completely ignore the fact that Jesus tore the veil so we could have open communication directly to God.
Need more? Or are you ejumacted enough, prufesir?
Nope.

A Catholic can pray directly to Jesus/God.

Your "tore the veil" comment is a bunch of babble and has nothign to do with prayer.

You might as well say the "torn veil" means not to use drapes on windows.

Once again, you prove you just make shit up.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#549331 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Um....
Hey that's great.
Then why doesn't he know there's major differences between a Catholic and a Protestant?
Motor oil is motor oil.

Mobil, Quaker State, come on, man.

“Are you a Problem or Solution?”

Since: Mar 09

Ann Arbor, MI

#549332 Jun 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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If you make testable claims, I can prove you wrong.
If I make testable claims, you can prove me wrong.
The difference is, you believe on faith, something that is only necessary when you don't have sufficient evidence to believe something. Faith installs a confirmation bias to protect your beliefs, which makes you closed minded. Discovering what is actually true is no longer a higher priority for you.
I enjoy debating, and by debating people who use faith, I expose its many flaws.
And why would I do that? Because faith has been a deciding factor in billions of murders and lesser offenses.
You see no flaws in what you say?

“Ditat Deus”

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#549333 Jun 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:

No, I could not. I can't prove that something doesn't exist.
Supernatural claims can be dealt with in several ways. I like conditional proofs. They can tell you what shouldn't exist, if the assumptions are true.
The practical outcome of many conditional proofs has been the evolution of beliefs. Sometimes, when a contradiction is pointed out, beliefs are modified to iron out the wrinkles.
This is exactly what is happening with the literal Hell belief in Christianity. A lot of Christians are realizing that Hell does not fit in with a loving and just god, so they find ways of justifying throwing that belief under the bus.
I know of no Christians that share your belief. In fact, quite the opposite.

As I've said, you have a choice, a choice I believe was given to you, and all of us, by God.

Here's a skeptical, rational version if what I mean.

You jump off a high building, the law of gravity will take care of you, not God. You have a choice to not jump off that building. You might say,“God is love" all the way down and hope that God will save you. And if not, then people like you will blame God for your death, saying "God should've saved that man, he's evil!" But you're still going to get splattered when you hit the bottom.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#549334 Jun 21, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =5iJioCcAL4cXX
Yep, exactly.
Thanks.
I happen to be of the Dylan generation. The real Dylan. The Dylan of the late 60s.
He was important then.
And some of us still live the dream.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#549335 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
So you think that DNA didn't exist until we found it?!
O_o
That's not what I think.

You can't justify a faith based position by pointing to the fact that humans have not, do not, and will not know everything about the universe.

Finding a god, like we found DNA, would all but destroy faith and religion as we know it.

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#549336 Jun 21, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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OK. Here's how I understand it.
If you read the Bible, you'll find references to God.
Not just references, God just about like takes over completely.
So the Bible tells us there's a god.
And since the Bible was inspired by God, we have to believe what the Bible says.
We can't even ask what things mean, because the answer depends on the Christian that gives it.
Bottom line though, the evidence shows that there's a god, and it's my god.
So if there was no Bible, there would be no God?

Got it.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#549337 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Arguing with him is sorta like arguing with a brick.
You get nowhere fast.
And you aren't heard.
Yeah ~ sometimes I can't work out why G posts what he does.... but I have told him that and I guess he can't work out why I post what I do either!

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#549339 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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ARRGH....
You're right.
*breathes*
Hello.
G'day :)

“Ditat Deus”

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#549341 Jun 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:

A being that has ultimate power also has ultimate responsibility.
According to you, sure. But by what process have you come to this conclusion? What tests have you performed? Was it peer reviewed? Was it published?

The fact is that God created you in His image, and that doesn't mean a physical appearance. If means He's given you the power to choose to be responsible for yourself or to not he responsible.

I don't know where you get off thinking that you alone can dictate what God can cm and can't do.
In your myth, God has the power to put everyone in Heaven, but does not, meaning he doesn't want to. He has some higher priority that is changing his want for people to go to Heaven into a want for most people to go to Hell.
So what is so important to your god that he would torture most human souls for eternity rather than not?
His creation learning right from wrong.

I dunno if you're a parent, but have you ever heard of a parent allowing their kids to do anything they want?
You like Dawkins, don't you?


No, not particularly. He's a pompous ass.
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
One biblically ignorant person quoting another.

Go figure.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#549342 Jun 21, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
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Agreed. When we humans try...we fail.
:)

“Ditat Deus”

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#549343 Jun 21, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Hold the memories dear..... I still have my Queen Puggy's Urn on my dressing table, and a couple of her smaller toys that will be treasured forever. Her ashes will be in my coffin when I give up my ghost and move on up to the next realm, wherever that will be :)
I know what you mean. I still have a rusty ole shoe from Damian. I'll always treasure it.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#549344 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
There is no rational methodology, practices or procedures that will logically conclude there is no God.
Just because you haven't detected Him does not mean He doesn't exist.
I have already logically concluded that the God defined by the Bible is impossible.

You don't have to agree with me for that to be true.

Once you divorce yourself from the laws of logic, you are in nonsense land where I don't even have to consider your claim. You will have no basis, without the laws of logic, to make any argument whatsoever for the truth of your claim.

“Ditat Deus”

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#549345 Jun 21, 2013
NoStress4me wrote:
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Please knock it off with the spelling…….As a dyslexic I would have been silenced along time ago had it not been for the understanding of a few others on here.
Hey, I'm partially dyslexic too, so I can misspell all I wAnt.

Especially if it's intentional.

“Ditat Deus”

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#549346 Jun 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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You are responsible, yes.
You either made it specifically to disobey, or you are incompetent.
Is incompetent negligence the excuse for your deity?
Oh, so you didn't make a conscious watch.

Or at least you put limitations on it...

God didn't do that with us.

“Ditat Deus”

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#549347 Jun 21, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Answer my question.
How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop?
One....

TA-HOO...

Three.

...

Three.

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#549348 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I know of no Christians that share your belief. In fact, quite the opposite.
As I've said, you have a choice, a choice I believe was given to you, and all of us, by God.
Here's a skeptical, rational version if what I mean.
You jump off a high building, the law of gravity will take care of you, not God. You have a choice to not jump off that building. You might say,“God is love" all the way down and hope that God will save you. And if not, then people like you will blame God for your death, saying "God should've saved that man, he's evil!" But you're still going to get splattered when you hit the bottom.
What if somebody pushes me off the building? Did God give me the choice to fly?

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#549349 Jun 21, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Nope.
A Catholic can pray directly to Jesus/God.
Your "tore the veil" comment is a bunch of babble and has nothign to do with prayer.
You might as well say the "torn veil" means not to use drapes on windows.
Once again, you prove you just make shit up.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

47 Some of them that stood there, when they heard that, said, This man calleth for Elias.

48 And straightway one of them ran, and took a spunge, and filled it with vinegar, and put it on a reed, and gave him to drink.

49 The rest said, Let be, let us see whether Elias will come to save him.

50 Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.

51 And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;

52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.......

“Ditat Deus”

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#549350 Jun 21, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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So your god is nonsensical?
That's all you're saying.
You can't get around this problem by saying that your deity isn't bound by the laws of logic.
Having the power to get anything you want necessarily means that you always get exactly what you want.
Yes, actually I can.

God created time, logic, laws of physics, etc. He is not bound by those laws like we are.

Try this.

He can and can't make a rock so heavy He can and can't lift.

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