Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#548978 Jun 21, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
I would love to read them then. You know, expand the old brain box.
Well good for you.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html

But the texts change nothing.

“Filia Spartacus”

Since: Jun 13

Libertas

#548979 Jun 21, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Torquemada was an archbishop.
A representative of the Church.
Tied at 69.
I won't say anymore until I've done my research. Except that those days should never be forgotten.

“Filia Spartacus”

Since: Jun 13

Libertas

#548980 Jun 21, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Well good for you.
http://gnosis.org/naghamm/nhl.html
But the texts change nothing.
Ta muchly.
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#548981 Jun 21, 2013
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Ta muchly.
Said the fool.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548982 Jun 21, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
you are a bigot with nothing but hate for people you don't know
You people and your double standards are a tiresome, contemptible lot. Tell it to a donkey in a Mexican slum.

Also, you bore again when you call anybody that challenges your precious faith "liar" and "bigot."

Isn't there a scripture that says, "Go and bore no more"?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548983 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm... I see. What do you think of this:
"But isn't disbelieving in God the same thing as not believing God exists?"
"Definitely not. Disbelief in a proposition means that one does not believe it to be true. Not believing that something is true is not equivalent to believing that it is false; one may simply have no idea whether it is true or not."
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew...
That sounds pretty good. Not believing isn't the same as believing not the way that distrusting is not the same as not trusting. When I first meet a person, I neither trust nor distrust her. Over time, I will likely do one or the other.

Suppose she eventually gives me reason to distrust her. If so, I go from an uncommitted position with no belief about her to one that positively states a belief.

These are the same two positions possible with gods. An agnostic atheist neither affirms nor denies the existence of gods. Somehow, Christians are continually morphing that into gnostic atheism, which is the assertion that one claims he knows that no gods exist.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548984 Jun 21, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
gealufen kleine prosie au der wiese and eat pferd Scheisse
Which word means "fart"?
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#548985 Jun 21, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Which word means "fart"?
Now *that's* funny.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548986 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
To say that a fetus is alive is redundant nonsense, because the sperm and egg it comes from are both alive. But they, on their own, are not a life.
A gamete certainly is a life. It's an organism - a unicellular, mobile, independent life form like an amoeba or a bacteria.

Who's up for some botany? This will bore some,hopefully not you.

"Alternation of generations" is a term generally seen botany that describes how haploid organisms called gametophytes generate diploid organisms called sporophytes. Here is it is illustrated:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Alternation...

Here's a discussion of the subject at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index...

"The gametophyte develops from a spore, is haploid, and produces gametes by mitosis, which merge (syngamy) to form diploid zygotes. The sporophyte develops from a zygote (the fusion of a sperm and egg), is diploid and produces haploid spores by meiosis.

"In a moss (bryophyte), the gametophyte is dominant, the sporophyte being a parasite of the gameophyte from which it grows, whereas in tracheophytes (ferns and seed-bearing plants), the sporophyte is independent of the gametophyte and is the dominant generation.

"In ferns (a pteridophyte, or simple vascular plant, the gametophyte is the prothallus, which is not the part that we are used to seeing (that would be the sporophyte that has the fronds and what you think of when you imagine a fern).

"In seed bearing plants (spermatophytes), the gametophyte generation is extremely miniscule, comprising only the pollen and embryo sac only.

"So, as plants have evolved, the sporophyte went from being the less significant, parasitic generation of the moss to the more significant and independent generation of the fern to the overwhelmingly more dominant generation of the seed bearing plants."

How does this apply to humanity? We also alternate between haploid gamete organism that produce diploid multicellular organisms like you and me by mitosis following syngamy, and back again to haploid organisms through meiosis in the gonads. We don't call them sporophytes or gametophytes, however. Nevertheless, you could create a graphic like the one in the link above for humanity.

In humans, the diploid organism is most conspicuous, the haploid form being visible only with a microscope. But it is just as valid to say that we diploid adults are just the way that haploid gametes produce more gametes as it is to say the opposite: that the aquatic sperm and egg are just the way that the terrestrial how adults produce more more adults.

If human spermatozoa and ova could think, that is what they would think about our diploid generation: We're here for them.

But I'll do the thinking for them and tell you that they are each a life, an individual living thing. This is most apparent with the sperm cell.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548987 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Oh ya. I just looked into it, apparently, fetuses don't feel pain until 20-24 weeks.
Good for you for investigating.

In the future, it would be nice to share your research. Posts like yours are a little better if they contain a link and possibly an excerpt from it. After all, you were right there. Why not share your source and simultaneously teach us while supporting your claim?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548988 Jun 21, 2013
bONGO wrote:
What place have you found in the next world?
The same place that have you found in the world after that one.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#548989 Jun 21, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>I find it interseting that the only posters
I have witnessed embracing you- even slightly, are the ones
who you have stroked, at times, Skom and Lawlest are great
examples..

Other than the likes of them.. I believe you are insignificant..
Don't talk to it.
It'll think you like it and create even more page filler.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#548990 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>What logic are YOU employing?!?

[QUOTE] He was a Christian, it doesn't mean he respected all the rules; he was still a Christian. "

So answer the question.

Do you think "once a Christian, always a Christian" is true?

[QUOTE] You are attempting to say that a few militant atheists being idiots represent all atheists, and so that logic applies to Hitler representing Christians as well."

No, I'm not saying that at all.
I did answer the question.
You ignored the answer.
I won't repeat myself.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#548991 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Well, shit.

You're the atheist that admits to a belief.
I have beliefs, yes, everyone does.
But I don't have any beliefs regarding a god.

You just don't seem to understand that.

There are three choices:
-believe in a god
-believe there is no god
-have no belief that there is or isn't a god

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#548992 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>Ok, I'll ask you again.

Either you'll admit you have no answer OR you'll provide an answer...

"Provide this 'biblical support' of the Inquisition or the Crusades"
It's already been proven.
It's been proven here, it's been proven through history, it's been proven time and time again in other subjects.
It's something we KNOW and not believe, like you do.

Here is another fact that you will no doubt try to say is false:
The bible says that if a woman is raped, she has no choice but to marry the rapist if he comes forth about it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548993 Jun 21, 2013
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>You could not sedate kitteh if you tried all night.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dra6WP12bVs/THUE-eF...
Little man.
:p
Well that certainly was disturbing. I expected your "kitteh" to be shaved.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#548994 Jun 21, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>The BIIIIIG deference is that Mark isn't trying to get the support of 67 million Germans.

Go.
And after he lost all the support and resorted to suicide?
He still adhered to Christianity.

It is a fact.
You cannot dismiss it simply because you don't like it.
You don't see me saying that militant atheists "aren't atheists."
I accept the fact that they are and make a simple deduction that they just want to cause trouble for religious people.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548995 Jun 21, 2013
Le_le wrote:
Do you consider Skombolis one of the buffoons you refer to here?
He's the clown prince.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#548996 Jun 21, 2013
Le_le wrote:
I asked you two question in my last posts to you.
You just answered one.
You are no longer a Catholic.
My second question-- would you raise your children in the
Catholic religion?
I asked the same question and more last week, and they got ignored as well. From http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

FIVE QUESTIONS FOR CATHOLICS

[1] Would you recommend that the mother of adolescent boys join the Catholic church, let her sons become altar boys, and allow them to spend unsupervised time with Catholic priest?

[2] Knowing what we know about your church, should that mother that leaves her sons with priests that molest them be treated any better than one who leaves her child alone in a crack house? If so, why?

[3] Since your church is a known international pedophilic sex syndicate, and you give it money, doesn't that make you en enabler of sexual crimes against children, like somebody who purchases kiddie porn? Aren't you actually underwriting trafficking in boy's bums? If your answer is no, why not?

[4] Are the priests, bishops, cardinals and popes who turned a blind eye, reassigned priests, or paid hush money to cover up their crimes and enable them to commit more any less criminal than the offending pedophile? Should they not also be in court and prison? If your answer is no, why not?

[5] Since foreign heads of state like Noriega and Hussein that merely threaten Americans were taken by force, should the Vatican, which facilitates the molestation of American boys, not also be raided by Navy Seals or UN forces, and the pope frog marched before cameras to justice by force, like Hussein and Noriega? If not, what makes the pope and exception? His skin color? That he says "Jesus, Jesus" a lot? If your answer is no, why not?

Anybody care to field these?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#548997 Jun 21, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>All the word "Christian" does is say a person a part of the Christian religion called Christianity. It does not excite me to be a Christian. It does not depress me either. Is just a name and a Religious Organization.

Jesus Christ--is what matters to me. Jesus Christ was not a Christian. Christianity don't matter to Jesus Christ. People is what Jesus Christ is concerned about.

I know of many people from other cultures such as Hinduism Islam and Buddhism that are Jesus Followers, but are not Christians.
Jesus matters to you, but you hate him, do you not?

You tend to go against his teachings an awful lot.
Especially that "love thy neighbour" bit.

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