Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Mar 09

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#548041 Jun 18, 2013
Clementia wrote:
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I just find it unbelievable that people say they believe something but they don't actually know or understand what they believe. They are all fake!
IMO there are a few ways to look at this. Many of the ex-Christians on Topic must not have known what they try to use to stump Christians while they were still in the faith or by their own reasoning they would not have stayed. And it's not like they learned everything in a day and then quit the faith. Many have spent untold hours trying to research it and find Internet arguments against it and so forth be Aussie now they are out of the faith and want to try to make it look bad. They call people stupid for believing just what they used to believe. We're they idiots when in the faith? I personally think they do what they do in part because it makes them feel better for leaving. And then some is just the Topic tit for tat

But you do bring up an interesting point. Consider if there was just one Bible in existence. People would do just about anything to get their hands on the words of God. So I do think we as Christians get a little lazy or spoiled with it being so accessible and are content to be taught instead of learning. We should as a whole pit more time into learning our faith and testing what we have been taught

Although another way to look at it can be necessity. Things are simplified where all one really needs to know are the two greatest commandments; love God and love your neighbor as thyself. The rest while good to know doesn't change that it really books down to that. And the Bible is a very long, tough read. Especially if one wants to know the original translations. Sometimes living the faith is more important than learning it

Just different ways to look at it I suppose

(T) Peace

Since: Oct 12

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#548042 Jun 18, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Yes, thanks for that, it did help.
Now I know that you're a Sanatan Sikh and they are the true Sikhs, while other Sikhs aren't so true.
It's a good argument.
I'm amazed that I never hear any of the thousands of Christian denominations claiming that they are the true faith and the others aren't true.
It's the truth ans u know it!:-p

People say they are Christians but they don't even know what's written in the Bible. They r fakers!

The koran clearly allows slapping your woman around but yet women keep converting to Islam. Either they r stupid or they r fakers and they don't actually understand their religious text, actually either way, they are still fakers!!

It's like saying, "i'm a Nazi but i don't believe in Hitler". That's just so stupid!! U r a Nazi coz of Hitler. He created Nazism!! U can't be a Nazi if u don't believe in what Hitler believed in.

U can't be a real Hindu or Sikh or Christian or Muslim etc... if u do not believe and follow the true teachings. U can keep telling yourself that u r a Nazi or a Hindu, but the truth is that u ain't, my friend!

The scriptures clearly state this and they teach us to beware of the fakers! "They chant the name of ram with their tongues, but they carry a hidden dagger under their arm" - Sikh scripture.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#548043 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That atheist courthouse bench in Florida has ensctipted on it that an atheist should build a hospital instead of a church.
How bout that? So do it, atheist.
You want a list of all the hospitals with no religious affiliation? There are plenty. Do you really not know that?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#548044 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ask any atheist what God is, they'll say he's the "invisible skydaddy".
That's an atheist belief, not Christian.
Well, I'm an atheist, and that would not be my answer.

You know RR, arguing with straw men isn't as interesting as having a discussion with a real person.

Since: Mar 09

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#548045 Jun 18, 2013
Edit Clementia...had some autocorrect errors. Should say because not "be Aussie". Another should say boils down to that not "books" Another should say were they idiots when still in the faith not we're. There may be more but I think those were the obvious ones

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#548046 Jun 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
Oh, and I often vacation in far-off places.
It's part of the life I don't have, while you revel in the Inland Empire, RR.
That's 'cuz you ain't happy at home.

I am.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#548047 Jun 18, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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You want a list of all the hospitals with no religious affiliation? There are plenty. Do you really not know that?
Atheists Want Hospitals — Not Churches

"The concept of the church’s care of ‘the poor’ was basic to the founding of the earliest hospitals. The hospital was, in origin and conception, a distinctively Christian institution, rooted in Christian concepts of charity and philanthropy."

It remains for atheists to present a comparable atheist version of the history of atheist hospitals.

http://godfatherpolitics.com/11326/atheists-w...

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So, no. An 'unaffiliated' hospital ain't gonna cut it.

An atheist hospital.

Go.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#548048 Jun 18, 2013
wilderide wrote:
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Well, I'm an atheist, and that would not be my answer.
You know RR, arguing with straw men isn't as interesting as having a discussion with a real person.
Find one Christian that'll tell you God is an invisible man.

Until then, it's an atheist belief because atheists believe that.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#548049 Jun 18, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Defending it from what?
"Leave YHWY alone! Go pick on some deity your own size!"

ROFLMAO

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#548050 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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So what? If a Muslim were to tell me that I'm doing it wrong, I'd laugh it off and move on. When atheists tell me I'm believing in something that doesn't exist, I do the same.....
That is alie well documented on this thread.

I find it amazing how much (alleged) Christians constantly lie on this thread.

Who is it that they claim is the Father of Lies ?

That must be the deity they really worship.

Since: Oct 12

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#548051 Jun 18, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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So the difference between Sikhs and Hindus is not religious. It boils down to a willingness to fight?
U kinda hit the nail on the head, but not exactly!

The Hindus that converted into Sikhs were mainly from the warrior tribes. The Gurus themselves were from the Khatri caste (the warrior clan). The Brahmins mainly stayed Hindus, they didn't fight, coz they never had it in them, they r just brains and not muscle.

U are not understand, it's about philosophy! I don't blame u the Hindu religion is at least 5,000 year old, new evidence is revealing that it's probably much older. We got a lot to cover, lol!:-)

Just remember that the core belief of ALL the Indian religions is the same! It never came to destroy the previous religions!!!

In our scripture it tells us to follow in the footsteps of saints that came on this earth thousands of years ago. They were Hindus, but still my religious scripture is saying they were they "purest of the pure".

Our eastern religions are not fighting with each other, the stupid people are. Brothers and sisters fight all the time. The whole world is just 1 big crazy family who loves to fight!!

And also, Buddha was NOT an atheist!!!

Also, don't forget that Muslim saints also wrote the Sikh scriptures, so we love Muslims too!!

lol, it's complicated!!!:-)

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#548052 Jun 18, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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A footnoted passing remark, otherwise known as "obiter dictum" by a Supreme Court Judge does not factor into the ruling and carries no legal weight.
"An obiter dictum is a remark or observation made by a judge that, although included in the body of the court's opinion, does not form a necessary part of the court's decision. In a court opinion, obiter dicta include, but are not limited to, words "introduced by way of illustration, or analogy or argument."[1] Unlike the rationes decidendi, obiter dicta are not the subject of the judicial decision, even if they happen to be correct statements of law. Under the doctrine of stare decisis, statements constituting obiter dicta are therefore not binding" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obiter_dictum
o·bi·ter dictum
n. pl. obiter dicta
1. Law An opinion voiced by a judge that has only incidental bearing on the case in question and is therefore not binding. Also called dictum.
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/obiter+dictu...
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"Incidental Bearing". Which means some kind of bearing. So it's not irrelevant to the case, it has some bearing on the case.

Incidental:
Of a minor, casual, or subordinate nature:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/incidental

Therefore his comments does have some bearing on the case.

The only way you could be right is if his comments were some how deemed irrelevant to the case. Clearly there is some relevance.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#548053 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Atheists Want Hospitals — Not Churches
"The concept of the church’s care of ‘the poor’ was basic to the founding of the earliest hospitals. The hospital was, in origin and conception, a distinctively Christian institution, rooted in Christian concepts of charity and philanthropy."
It remains for atheists to present a comparable atheist version of the history of atheist hospitals.
http://godfatherpolitics.com/11326/atheists-w...
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So, no. An 'unaffiliated' hospital ain't gonna cut it.
An atheist hospital.
Go.
Uh, well, first of all, the earliest hospitals that we have records for were from the ancient Egyptians...which predated the Hebrews, nevermind the Christians. So your whole premise is false.

See? That's what happens when your only information comes from biased sources: confirmation bias.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#548054 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Then an atheist should build a hospital...
You mean like Childrens Hospital in Philly ?

Founded by Ben Franklin, a Deist.

Every time you post you reveal that that you are even more stupid than the last time.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#548055 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Find one Christian that'll tell you God is an invisible man.
Until then, it's an atheist belief because atheists believe that.
I'm sorry RR, but is this how you think logic operates?

"If no Christian says that God is an invisible man, then atheists believe in an invisible man."

Well, unless you find a Christian who says that Muhammad is the true profit of God, then you are a rutabaga.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#548056 Jun 18, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I'm not deflecting or attempting to censor anybody.
I gave you a welcome!
You made it clear that some other poster wasn't welcome to "chime in" on this *public* forum. You are no less a bully than your buds here.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#548057 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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No? What does this mean to you?
""We have already indicated that atheism may be considered, in this specialized sense, a religion."
It is called a Legal Fiction.

By your adled mind's reasoning corporations are human beings.

We can only assume that all your beliefs are built on the inability to discern fact from fiction.

Talk to your doctor about Haldol.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#548058 Jun 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Attack, slander, libel, decimation, you name it.
ROFLMAO

You are the one making a mockery of your religion.

You virtually piss on Jesus and shit on the Bible with almost every post you make.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

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#548059 Jun 18, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ChQiotW1gSIXX
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
If only...

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#548060 Jun 18, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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...I have no current spouse and the only "ex" that I have is deceased. No...there are no pictures on the wall but I do have them...I even have a few of old boyfriends from a long time ago...I think I do.
Aaaawwweee, that is so sweet.

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