Why Should Jesus Love Me?
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#546886 Jun 15, 2013
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4 THINGS to know RE: walking CLOSELY to the Lord

http://youtu.be/xaRDEqO7_TE

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Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#546887 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>What laws would those be? The laws of Leviticus 18, which forbid sexual immoralities since they destroy a nation or do you prefer incest and bestiality and ignore Leviticus 18?
Unlike you, I don't need the inane and superstitious ramblings of late Iron Age goat herders to keep me on the straight and narrow.

Furthermore, it's plain to see that you don't follow Leviticus, because if you did, you'd be out there killing all adulterers, gays, etc.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#546888 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
You not accepting that morality is defined by God, would be the reason that you are so messed up.
Your god is the most the most immoral and monstrous creature in all of fiction. Jehovah-Jesus nearly sterilized the earth once and intends to do it again. What monster can match that?

In between - according to legend - Jehovah killed another two-and-a-half million that are enumerated, plus untold numbers of others in the flood and other disasters without death counts. And he ordered dozens of genocides. Just ask the Hittites, the Hivites, the Perizzites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Girgashites, the Canaanites, and the Jebusites.

Then thers are the instruction from Jehovah-Jesus:

• "Show No Mercy!" Deut 7:2
• "Make no peace!" Deut 7:2
• "March to War!" Numbers 32:20
• "Ethnic cleanse!" Deut. 20:15
• "Commit genocide!" Joshua 10:20
• "Enslave!" Lev. 25:44
• "Beat to death!" Ex. 21:20
• "Kill women and chilldren!" Numbers 31:17, 1 Samuel 15:3
• "Kill all prisoners!" Deut 7:2
• "Destroy!" Deut. 7:16
• "Annihilate!" Deut. 17:29
• "Slaughter!" Deut. 13:15, Joshua 8:24
• "Burn!" Deut. 13:15
• "Torture!" Lev. 24:23, Numbers 5:11
• "Massacre!" Numbers 21:2
• "Exterminate!" Deut 2:34, Deut 3:3
• "Crush!" Deut. 33:29
• "Kill!" Joshua 9:24
• "Destroy!" Deut 31:4
• "Smite!" Esther 9:5
• "Slash!" Judges 15:8
• "Burn!" joshua 6:24
• "Kill!" Joshua 10:10
• "Kill!" Judges 11:33
• "Kill!" Deut 9:3
• "Loot!" Deut. 20:10
• "Plunder!" Numbers 31:9, Deut 2:35
• "Rape!" Numbers 31:18, Deut. 21:10, Judges 21:11
• "Pillage!" 1 Samuel 23:5
• "Kill!" Deut 9:3
• "Kill!" Deut 20:15
• "Kill!" Judges 21:11

Your god goes on to command:

• KILL anyone who wears mixed fabrics.
• KILL any kid who disrespects his parents
• KILL anyone who works on Saturday
• KILL anyone who eats meat AND cheese together
• KILL anyone who swears by god
• KILL any man who goes into the temple after having sex with a woman who is on her •

The most common command in your bible is to kill, usually for some trivial infraction.

And that's not even the bad part, not by far. Your vicious monster god has built a fiery torture pit and stocked it with demonic inquisitors so that he may keep you conscious for eternity to suffer.

=========

I challenge you to name a fictional character that has done more harm to human beings. For you to consider that monster moral is itself morally reprehensible.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#546889 Jun 15, 2013
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
That is because Christianity is a mass religion in a mass society. It is directed at the masses. It is especially directed at people that have low spirituality, and even more specifically at the people with the lowest people among those.
Jesus comes to the evil. This is justified in a very cunning way, by saying Jesus is a doctor and doctors only come to the sick. The lower the spirituality the bigger the ego, and the stronger the superiorty feelings.
It is funny things seeing these vain egomaniacs trying to look humble. Our new pope is doing a good job in this. He is Jesuit, the most cunning of all. He going back to a humble lifestyle, but of course this is heralded through the media so all will know how humble the new pope is.
Christianity is an anti-religion it is directed at the masses but it does its very best to bend the minds of intelligent, spiritual people. When you read the accounts of all the abuse in Christian institution you soon find out is was specially directed to break children with a free will. These are the once that also have the intelligence the need for their organisation.
The Mafia work in exactly the same way, they specifically target at intelligent boys and try to lure them in fist by being very generous to them. They are connected, the Mafia is used by the Catholic churh to do her dirty work.
Converters use forums to lure intelligent people into discussions, the use very intelligent techniques. Some will start attacking them furiously, but there will always be one that is intelligent and kind who comes to their rescue. The attacks naturally bring them together. And they are invited to tell about themselves. At some point they will be invited to a meeting. And then they will find that people are exceptionally nice to them. And they think, wow, I had the wrong picture, these Christians aren't so bad at all. Then they find out other good people the discussed with are Christians too. And so it goes on, one step at the time, slowly reeling in the victim. The whole operation is staged from beginning to end. When I was Christian I saw convinced atheist boys being transformed in Christians that way. This is more easy than it seems as these often intelligent boys are lonely and single. They are overconfident rationalizing everything and that makes it much easer to use emotional manipulation, without them being aware of it.
It is has similarities with the way sexual predators go about grooming children, but is much more refined because they use advanced group psychology. It is in fact a sales process. When you walk into a garage with a good sales team you are fish swimming into a net, if you are not aware of that you easily get hooked. Sales is a science, ans good salesmen are extremely successful.
Never underestimate them.
Nicely put

Control of the masses is what it's all about.

Thankfully, people in our society are much less superstitious than they used to be and are not so easily fooled by religion.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#546890 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
Bestiality and homosexuality are both abhorrent. There is no what if about the Bible or God.
Human sacrifice is morally abhorrent. See John 3:16.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#546891 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>If not, then that would be a reason for SSM, since it is void of love since the starting point is void of self love.
You are the product of your church. You are the kind of person it manufactures when it has maximal influence on an individual. Better Christians are those that have been less indoctrinated.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#546892 Jun 15, 2013
Mark wrote:

We have seen whole societies that were homosexual.
Really, which ones?

By my reckoning, a homosexual society would last one generation.
In prisons homosexuality is rampant.
You mean homosexual rape, right?

You might be shocked to learn that homosexual sex in US prisons affects about 2% of the inmate population.

Not exactly 'rampant'...
People can be confused about their sexuality too.
You seem a little lost yourself, buddy.
Some people marry and only later realize they are more homosexual, but the opposite happens too (though more rare), people that have been homosexual for decades and then discover they are really more heterosexual. And then we have people that are innate bisexual. But bisexuality can be a fashion too.
So no "born gay" gene, huh?

*rubs temples*

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#546893 Jun 15, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
He is amazing.
He also says that "it's a lie to think that you're not good enough - it's a lie to think that you're not worth anything".
Contrast that with the Christian view of humanity being evil, wretched and damnable and not worthy of being tolerated by the god of the bible.
Lol, WTF? Where'd you find that supposed Christian view?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#546894 Jun 15, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think you're smart enough to offend me but feel free to try.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =tHdluD5JxSIXX

Funny, no?
I love the "fall into the pool" part.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#546895 Jun 15, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Your god is the most the most immoral and monstrous creature in all of fiction. Jehovah-Jesus nearly sterilized the earth once and intends to do it again. What monster can match that?
In between - according to legend - Jehovah killed another two-and-a-half million that are enumerated, plus untold numbers of others in the flood and other disasters without death counts. And he ordered dozens of genocides. Just ask the Hittites, the Hivites, the Perizzites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Ammonites, the Moabites, the Girgashites, the Canaanites, and the Jebusites.
Then thers are the instruction from Jehovah-Jesus:
• "Show No Mercy!" Deut 7:2
• "Make no peace!" Deut 7:2
• "March to War!" Numbers 32:20
• "Ethnic cleanse!" Deut. 20:15
• "Commit genocide!" Joshua 10:20
• "Enslave!" Lev. 25:44
• "Beat to death!" Ex. 21:20
• "Kill women and chilldren!" Numbers 31:17, 1 Samuel 15:3
• "Kill all prisoners!" Deut 7:2
• "Destroy!" Deut. 7:16
• "Annihilate!" Deut. 17:29
• "Slaughter!" Deut. 13:15, Joshua 8:24
• "Burn!" Deut. 13:15
• "Torture!" Lev. 24:23, Numbers 5:11
• "Massacre!" Numbers 21:2
• "Exterminate!" Deut 2:34, Deut 3:3
• "Crush!" Deut. 33:29
• "Kill!" Joshua 9:24
• "Destroy!" Deut 31:4
• "Smite!" Esther 9:5
• "Slash!" Judges 15:8
• "Burn!" joshua 6:24
• "Kill!" Joshua 10:10
• "Kill!" Judges 11:33
• "Kill!" Deut 9:3
• "Loot!" Deut. 20:10
• "Plunder!" Numbers 31:9, Deut 2:35
• "Rape!" Numbers 31:18, Deut. 21:10, Judges 21:11
• "Pillage!" 1 Samuel 23:5
• "Kill!" Deut 9:3
• "Kill!" Deut 20:15
• "Kill!" Judges 21:11
Your god goes on to command:
• KILL anyone who wears mixed fabrics.
• KILL any kid who disrespects his parents
• KILL anyone who works on Saturday
• KILL anyone who eats meat AND cheese together
• KILL anyone who swears by god
• KILL any man who goes into the temple after having sex with a woman who is on her •
The most common command in your bible is to kill, usually for some trivial infraction.
And that's not even the bad part, not by far. Your vicious monster god has built a fiery torture pit and stocked it with demonic inquisitors so that he may keep you conscious for eternity to suffer.
=========
I challenge you to name a fictional character that has done more harm to human beings. For you to consider that monster moral is itself morally reprehensible.
Wow, dude. Talk about cherry picking....

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#546896 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Bestiality and homosexuality are both abhorrent. There is no what if about the Bible or God.
It looks like you don't follow the word of your Jesus.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#546897 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>If not, then that would be a reason for SSM, since it is void of love since the starting point is void of self love.
Have you ever been in a same sex relationship?
No?
Then how can you claim it is void of love?

I can assure you, I love my fiancé very much.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#546898 Jun 15, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>What laws would those be? The laws of Leviticus 18, which forbid sexual immoralities since they destroy a nation or do you prefer incest and bestiality and ignore Leviticus 18?
So you don't eat or even touch pork, you don't wear mixed fabrics, and you don't eat shellfish?

If you respect all the rules of your precious Leviticus, then you can say without hypocrisy that being gay is an abomination. Doesn't mean you're right, it just means you could say it without being a hypocrite.

Though we all know you are a hypocrite.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#546899 Jun 15, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
So you don't eat or even touch pork, you don't wear mixed fabrics, and you don't eat shellfish?
If you respect all the rules of your precious Leviticus, then you can say without hypocrisy that being gay is an abomination. Doesn't mean you're right, it just means you could say it without being a hypocrite.
Though we all know you are a hypocrite.
The Levites were a very sexually open tribe, it nearly destroyed them. They needed these laws to curb their lusts as much as possible.

Note: These laws were written for the Levites, not every Christian or Jew.

6 “‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord.

7 “‘Do not dishonor your father by having sexual relations with your mother. She is your mother; do not have relations with her.

8 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.

9 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.

10 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.

11 “‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s wife, born to your father; she is your sister.

12 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your father’s close relative.

13 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she is your mother’s close relative.

14 “‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.

15 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son’s wife; do not have relations with her.

16 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother.

17 “‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.

18 “‘Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.

19 “‘Do not approach a woman to have sexual relations during the uncleanness of her monthly period.

20 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her.

21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.

22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.

23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.

Since: Jul 08

Columbus, OH

#546900 Jun 15, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
....
Note: These laws were written for the Levites, not every Christian or Jew.
6 “‘No one is to approach any close relative to have sexual relations. I am the Lord.
....
Well aren't you lucky that one doesn't apply to every Christian.

BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#546901 Jun 15, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Love isn't the property of heterosexual people.
Gay people can have a love for each other which is equally as passionate and valid as that felt by heterosexual people.
Time to get rid of that late Iron Age mentality you've got as it has no place in the 21st Century.
exist no defintion of earthly mean love
earthly love is not love-only mostly dirty passion,depraved moraly lust ending with diseases, sickness,divorces, and tragedies

this type of your definiton love,is product of complete moral phisical depravation existing only to the time of man existing testotrone

YOU ARE JOHN JAWS FOOLING YOURSELVES AND EVERYOBODY AROUND,POSTING SIMPLE BS AND HAVING NOT CLUE WHAT
AGAPE LOVE IS

It would be nice for you,if you would dissapear from here with high waves of horse dung misex with water

BIBLE TRUE JEHOVA

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#546902 Jun 15, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Well aren't you lucky that one doesn't apply to every Christian.
please?
end this same posted crap without of end
at end you sound like uneducated stupid without of brain

go away from here,or start to get some education of basic behaviour noraml skills

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546903 Jun 15, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
He is amazing.
He also says that "it's a lie to think that you're not good enough - it's a lie to think that you're not worth anything".
Contrast that with the Christian view of humanity being evil, wretched and damnable and not worthy of being tolerated by the god of the bible.
I prefer to take from scriptures positive things.

"I said you are ALL Gods."

"Go forth and multiply."

"Love your neighbors and even enemies."

"The Kngdom of God is inside you."

and of course, Song of Songs in its entirety.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546904 Jun 15, 2013
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Bestiality is abhorrent to you?
What if there was bestiality in the bible, would it make the bible abhorrent to you as well?
In Genesis, God has Adam 'try out' all the animals as a "wife" before making a human woman for him.

Christian apologetics (AKA B.S.) in 3... 2.... 1...

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#546905 Jun 15, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Well aren't you lucky that one doesn't apply to every Christian.
Ya, cuz you know how we rednecks are.

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