Since: Apr 13

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#546527 Jun 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Prove it!
<smile>
Topix would not approve the picture.

Bunch of prudes.

Would you like to know what colour they are?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546528 Jun 13, 2013
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay then tell me the requirements of the Messiah?
Thank you for admitting your lack of knowledge. Here are the main elements of the Messiah concept in Judaism :

"The mashiach will be a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5). The mashiach is often referred to as "mashiach ben David" (mashiach, son of David). He will be well-versed in Jewish law, and observant of its commandments (Isaiah 11:2-5). He will be a charismatic leader, inspiring others to follow his example. He will be a great military leader, who will win battles for Israel. He will be a great judge, who makes righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15). But above all, he will be a human being, not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being.

It has been said that in every generation, a person is born with the potential to be the mashiach. If the time is right for the messianic age within that person's lifetime, then that person will be the mashiach. But if that person dies before he completes the mission of the mashiach, then that person is not the mashiach."

More here:

http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm

It should be noted that a "Messiah" is never mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures (OT). It is a Jewish invention/hope/belief/doctrine .

The attributes of Messiah were also fulfilled by Herod the Great with the building of the Second temple and even fulfilled by the Persian king Cyrus the Great, who returned the Jews to Judea in 538 BC.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546529 Jun 13, 2013
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>
...But who cares, the Jewish belief is just their fantasy.....
Agreed.

That makes the Christian 'Christ' a fantasy based losely on a fantasy 'Messiah'.

Since: Sep 10

Long Beach, CA

#546530 Jun 13, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't understand bullying.
Showing people my hurt feelings makes it that much worse.
You learn that the best defense is a good offense. If they hand you one offense, you give them back two.
I don't know how to explain this to you without hurting your feelings. My words are off putting.
That's what they are meant to be. It's not a fuckingfluke.
I don't care to share details, but I too grew up an outsider in the society.

And despite the pain, it forced me to be strong and this gave me a competitive advantage in life.

And I have had a very good life.

I'm more at the "looking back" stage (damnit).

And my conclusion is that, each time there is bullying, stereotyping, insensitivity, it is the responsibility of a decent person to call it out for what it is.

No revenge; just consciousness raising.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#546531 Jun 13, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you think Noah fed this one?
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3599/3591786935...
I'm guessing an extinct species?
Oops.
Oops? Did you make a mistake?
There is a difference between type and kind. You can google it up. I'm heading to bed and don't have the time to address this at this time. And Alice, please just go to your point directly. There is no need to make an end around shot at my beliefs. You have no problem talking directly about your nipples. And I have no problem talking directly about my beliefs. Actually, I have no problem talking about either. Though I really have no interest in your nipples.
At night time I have no evidence that the sun exists. But, it does.
Have a good night Alice :)

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546532 Jun 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no requirements of a Messiah.
But the entire concept of a messiah seems very strange to me.
What is it that prompts people to think of this sort of thing?
I find it befuddling; perplexing.
Read my post on the Jewish Messiah.

It is not too bizzare.
the jews were waiting for a George Washington like figure. They got a few in their history.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#546533 Jun 13, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
Then you have historic fiction carrying philosophical or moral messages such as red Badge of Courage, War and Peace, All Quiet on the Western Front, The Grapes of Wrath and even the Old Man and the Sea or Moby Dick.
All take place in genuine historial settings but used to convey a deeper message and not intened to be taken as the relating of actual events.
Most scholars (as well as a great number of Jewish Theologians)regard Genesis, Exodus and Numbers as historical fiction.
<quoted text>
You know, I enjoy discussions of this nature, and I've come to the opinion that historical fiction and myth or mythology are interchangeable terms or descriptions.

I think people place, "myth", in the context of ancient stories or events in our distant past, and those myths may be fact filled(still yet myth due to some elements).

Historical fiction is applied to relatively recent events or stories, but that historical fiction can be for all practical purposes be just as fact - less or fact filled as the most ancient myth.

I mean, just how long does it take for our collective "recent memory" or recollections concerning stories to head down the road to myth?

In some instances not too long I'd say, and in others, it seems people cling to them.

Sometimes it seems that the more fanciful or outlandish stories, we try to retain as being "possibly true", than the more believable stories.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#546534 Jun 13, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
My moment of zen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4oq_1KdZIsMXX
I'm a little high strung.
I'm so upset with the government.

Grrrrrr.

So much wasted potential.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546535 Jun 13, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Topix would not approve the picture.
Bunch of prudes.
Would you like to know what colour they are?
Skintone ?

LOL

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#546536 Jun 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
That was Teddy Roosevelt, one of my heroes.
Great book: Mornings on Horseback, about TR's early life.
Ya! what's so hard about overcoming impossibilities?
Lack of lustre is all...

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#546537 Jun 13, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, what you see in the mirror is a reflection of your face.
Left is right and right is left.
It's not the you for real, as would be captured in a picture.
Not the you other people see.
Hmm Reading your response and Alice's response, makes me realize I could take this pretty deep. Perhaps I will dwell on it a little tomorrow at work. It makes the day go faster :) My original thought was a combination of parts of each. Thanks for the response. I love this kind of stuff :)

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#546538 Jun 13, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
It never is.
The Looking Glass. Alice knows a little about that :)
A blind man can feel my face and tell that I'm Asian. He has no idea what I look like.
A deaf man can read my lips, if so trained, and feel the vibrations in my throat. He has no idea what my voice sounds like.
It's a game of perception.
Never confuse that with reality.
Nice, I like your thinking :)

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#546539 Jun 13, 2013
Good Night All, Oops it's morning :) Thanks for the conversation. And those I wasn't in, were good to read. Pretty interesting stuff tonight.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#546540 Jun 13, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
Though I really have no interest in your nipples.
?
Noun: myth
1. A traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2. A traditional story accepted as history; serves to explain the world view of a people.
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Yep. I'm callin' myth on that.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546541 Jun 13, 2013
We create out own myths all our lives. The stories of our lives as we tell it to others and ourselves express who we are and what is important to us. They change as we change. They are not truth or facts but are Truths and Factual.
We simply try to be the hero, often a tragic one, in the story of our own lives.
Some need a story written for them by others it seems. I am not sure whether to feel sorry for them, or be jealous.
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
You know, I enjoy discussions of this nature, and I've come to the opinion that historical fiction and myth or mythology are interchangeable terms or descriptions.
I think people place, "myth", in the context of ancient stories or events in our distant past, and those myths may be fact filled(still yet myth due to some elements).
Historical fiction is applied to relatively recent events or stories, but that historical fiction can be for all practical purposes be just as fact - less or fact filled as the most ancient myth.
I mean, just how long does it take for our collective "recent memory" or recollections concerning stories to head down the road to myth?
In some instances not too long I'd say, and in others, it seems people cling to them.
Sometimes it seems that the more fanciful or outlandish stories, we try to retain as being "possibly true", than the more believable stories.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#546544 Jun 13, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
....Check this out at http://www.askmen.com/money/body_and_mind_100...
Antisocial Personality Disorder
Is someone else always to blame?
Do you have frequent brushes with the law?
Do you lie?
Are you reckless?
Do you shirk responsibility?
Can you make long-term commitments?
Are you manipulative?
Are you self-centred?
Most people on the planet score 7 out of 10.

99% of alcoholics drank milk as a child therefore milk causes alcoholism.

I am sure you are aware of all the games played in the psycho-social fields.
The medical field has its share as well.
My doctor told me today that the only effective pain medication I can take is illegal in our state but that other states have medical marijuana.
Rosa Winkel

Sydney, Australia

#546547 Jun 13, 2013
JesusMyLord wrote:
<quoted text>Wilderide, but since you are gay, shouldn't you be getting a therapist. Are you a priest?
How could a man in a dress help him?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#546548 Jun 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
One of my pet hates is how Hollywood assumes we don't know our geography.
You know the sort of thing...
You're watching a film and the next scene shifts to Paris; cue a shot of the Eiffel Tower with the caption "Paris, France".
Well, I'd never have realised that Paris was in France.
As you may have suspected, geography is not taught in the public schools in America. We learned it mostly on the news and from the Department of Defense.

Isn't the Eiffel tower in Las Vegas, next to the Statue of Liberty?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#546550 Jun 14, 2013
Mark wrote:
I realised that what I loved about Christianity most was all in Nature ... the influence. It connected me to reality. You can not connect to the "supernatural", only to the Natural.
I certainly agree with this. As you say, Christianity is anti-spiritual. That is not to say that a Christian cannot have spiritual experiences. But when they do, they have them the way that the rest of us do - by connecting with the world, as when comforting a child, or working the soil.

To do that, they must at least in part resist the dogma that teaches them to be psychologically separated from our world - the opposite of spirituality.

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#546551 Jun 14, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
<quoted text>
Oops? Did you make a mistake?
There is a difference between type and kind. You can google it up. I'm heading to bed and don't have the time to address this at this time. And Alice, please just go to your point directly. There is no need to make an end around shot at my beliefs. You have no problem talking directly about your nipples. And I have no problem talking directly about my beliefs. Actually, I have no problem talking about either. Though I really have no interest in your nipples.
At night time I have no evidence that the sun exists. But, it does.
Have a good night Alice :)
I go about things my own way. I always have. Your participation in that process is not mandatory but it is much appreciated. I want to make that clear.

Do you play chess?

I took a walk. My nipples went with me. They just bounced around, basically being nipples. Always pointing the trail ahead, unless I turned around.

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