Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542577 Jun 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
I respectfully disagree.
Sure, bullies may ridicule. But ridicule is not essential to bullying, and ridicule does not make something bullying. The Christian church bullies with angry, judgmental lies much more than ridicule. And ridiculing it is not bullying. It is a defense against bullying. Ridicule is the great equalizer against the angry, harsh judgment coming from the pulpit. It is much kinder, because it doesn't ask you to hurt the target like the angry scapegoating from the church, just laugh at it.
We can offer reasoned argument to those that can care about such things, and appeal to the consciences of those that have them. But ridicule is useful to intimidate those not amenable to either.
“Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus." -Thomas Jefferson
"If religion contained any truth, it could be ridiculed, insulted, even defiled, without being diminished in any way. Its truth would shine through: undimmed, unblemished, shaming those who abused it into silence." - Pat Condell
_-Alice-_ wrote:
I almost bit you for that. I almost ate you. I'm trying to be nice.
I don't understand.
_-Alice-_ wrote:
Were you born a white heterosexual male in the United States of America?
Yes.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542578 Jun 1, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
It is not repetitious as far as commands but is talking about false gods in both One says don't have any, the other says don't build anything in their likeness
That is incorrect. The first Commandment is about other gods, the second about idols:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image

These are distinct Commandments, not a repeat. If they were the same, then you would only have nine.

Clearly, your discernment is faulty, the result of a faith based confirmation bias that transforms the words into whatever you need them to mean just as you did here.

I'll be happy to interpret your bible for you whenever you have difficulty.

Since: May 09

Location hidden

#542579 Jun 1, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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That's so cool !!
I can't wait to make it to the southern sections of the trail. I'm hoping to make it to Pennsylvania this summer. That will make 8 states. I hear the rocks are pretty bad in PA. I may have to adjust my stride. One of my legs is numb.
Eight states? Good deal. I've heard that there's a particularly intense section in PA., too. I'm guessing it's passable though.

Down here, through Tn., NC., and Ga., it's pretty varied. You'll be in bottoms of Oak or walking for hours up an incline, then ridges.Vast areas of Rhododendron and Mountain Laurel(so much so, it blocks the sun and it'll seem like the evening), Huckleberries, Muscadine vines, everything. Water all over. Just about a spring in every hollow. Certain pockets and areas get anywhere from 60-80 inches of rain a year, avg.

You'll like it, but I'm guessing all of the trail is like that, no matter the state.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#542580 Jun 1, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
My profile pic is Milla Jovovich. There is evidence of her. There is evidence of everything that is natural. Sometimes it gets your hands dirty.
Look closely and then decide.
She was just adorable in The Fifth Element. She was also powerful.

I really like that movie.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#542581 Jun 1, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Serah
G'Day Mike

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542582 Jun 1, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
A song from the gay man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =R6VDmozvNrMXX
Nice. Did you see the movie?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#542583 Jun 1, 2013
Rosa Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not sure about capital punishment. It sounds like you're dead against it.
I remember after Anita Cobby was murdered...the protesters hung nooses outside the court where the killers were being tried.
The only alternative is life sentences. For a terrible crime, Never To Be Released. Our taxes will feed Travers, the Murphys, Martin Bryant and the Snowtown Murderers until they die.
They're all guilty as hell, but I hate to think of an innocent person being hanged.
Yes; I'm dead against it, no matter how easy it would be to say execute them. Maybe it would give closure to those who have lost their loved ones to see them executed, but then again, maybe it wouldn't. There is no need for our governments (at least in Australia) to treat the guilty like 'kings' as such, but I do believe in rehabilitation. We have had some horrific murders in Australia..... but we have probably executed our fair share of innocent too. One day, hopefully in the not too far future, we can all live together like human beings, and care.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542584 Jun 1, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Yet you guys have consistently made the argment one can't compare bigotry since someone is born black or gay but they aren't born Christian
There is zero scientific evidence that anybody is born religious. It is a choice. If that is a reason to persecute gays, it's a reason to persecute Christians.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#542585 Jun 1, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
My profile pic is Milla Jovovich. There is evidence of her. There is evidence of everything that is natural. Sometimes it gets your hands dirty.
Look closely and then decide.
I've just been out cleaning up the garden and the yard after a few windy rainy storms, and have done my fair share of getting my hands dirty in the garden.

My dog is pretty clever ~ just have to say to him "do you wanna" and he races out and grabs hold of his leash, but there is no evidence of him being my relative. I have looked closely .....

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542586 Jun 1, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
no need for any more explanation
Explanations are of no use with you. Just watch and learn.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542587 Jun 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Universes are simpler than immortal, omnipotent, omniscient gods. Any such argument against a universe existing without a designer is stronger against a god existing uncreated.

All that needs to be the case is that all possible universes form from an amorphous, unconscious multiverse, and this universe becomes a sure thing - perhaps just one of an infinite number just like it, each with self-conscious life. That would explain reality without invoking magic or the astronomically long odds necessary for a god to exist.

There is no need for a god to explain reality, and no way to explain a god.
Skombolis wrote:
Yeah that is much more rationale and simpler of an explanation than something greater than ourselves created it since all life we know of was created
Correct.

Your god is the least likely thing to exist uncreated that can be imagined. Nothing is less likely. There is no statistical argument that supports a god belief.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#542588 Jun 1, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Just one time be your your man
If you have to go back to "us" for the rest of the day I will understand
But try making just one post speaking for yourself
Its not such a terrible thing to be yourself, even when that self is you!
You don't need anonymous people to prop you up.
Yeah I make fun of you because you are insecure and retired to Mexico and are a bigot and that is only because that stuff is true! But so is what I am telling you now. This co-dependency thing you got going on isn't healthy. You can keep your pretend movement alive in your head and still be your own man. Not everything you say has to be propped up.
Be like Mikey with the cereal, just try it, you will like it
If you don't, you can go right back to saying "we" instead of "I" , I promise:)
Shouldn't you be in prison?

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#542589 Jun 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
I don't understand.
<quoted text>
Yes.
It's not a big deal. My attention span is limited.

I think I had a problem with a white heterosexual male talking about bullying and ridicule.

I'm over it now.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#542590 Jun 1, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Man everything goes over your head
Obviously I meant ADDITIONAL verses since like you said, I read and commented on the ones you posted. I showed how that didn't condone slavery. You responded by saying it is well established that throughout the Bible it condones slavery. I said if so then post the verses. So your new claim was based on the same verses you already used?
You didn't go to law-school with Catcher did you
Actually I take that back. He never would have even posted the original verses. He would have just said "dude"
Oh man, sorry Cather, how could i forget your go-to tactic! Please include that in the list!
Yes, you read and commented on them, then your claims continued to be invalid for the verses clearly showed that the bible condones slavery.

Another thing the bible quite obviously is is sexist.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#542591 Jun 1, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>No, it is not....
You misread.
I didn't say Christian.
I said "Christian."

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#542592 Jun 1, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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There is zero scientific evidence that anybody is born religious. It is a choice. If that is a reason to persecute gays, it's a reason to persecute Christians.
In the "Christian's" mind, that ain't true.

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#542593 Jun 1, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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Eight states? Good deal. I've heard that there's a particularly intense section in PA., too. I'm guessing it's passable though.
Down here, through Tn., NC., and Ga., it's pretty varied. You'll be in bottoms of Oak or walking for hours up an incline, then ridges.Vast areas of Rhododendron and Mountain Laurel(so much so, it blocks the sun and it'll seem like the evening), Huckleberries, Muscadine vines, everything. Water all over. Just about a spring in every hollow. Certain pockets and areas get anywhere from 60-80 inches of rain a year, avg.
You'll like it, but I'm guessing all of the trail is like that, no matter the state.
I wrote a whole response and then my Ipad farted. I'll try again.

In Maine, there are bogs. Endless hours of walking through slop. I wore rubber boots. The trail team built little wooden pathways over the worst parts. Yay !!

In New Hampshire, there is a serious difference in temperature between the low and the high. I walked up Mt. Washington.

I want to see the Smokey Mountains up close. I want to see the Shenandoah Valley. I will.

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#542594 Jun 1, 2013
Tide with Beach wrote:
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She was just adorable in The Fifth Element. She was also powerful.
I really like that movie.
Big Badaboom?

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#542595 Jun 1, 2013
Chess Jurist

Columbus, OH

#542596 Jun 1, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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It's not a big deal. My attention span is limited.
I think I had a problem with a white heterosexual male talking about bullying and ridicule.
I'm over it now.
This is creepy.

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