Why Should Jesus Love Me?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539961 May 26, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Was it you that asked why I asked an atheist a certain question?
You answered his question with a question.

I answered yours.

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#539962 May 26, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm 100 percent against death, and expect to live forever.
So far, so good.
(Somebody said that.)
How'd that work out in the end?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#539963 May 26, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>There are no atheists here either.
Sure there are.

Every atheist here is an atheist, and further, to paraphrase a popular saying, atheists just happen to not have a belief in one less deity than you do.

Atheists use some of the same reasoning that you say you do, in not having a belief in all of the other deities that you say you don't have a belief in. Yet, the believers in deities other than the deity that you believe in, will say they believe in the deity they've chosen, utilizing the same reasons/reasoning for why you chose your deity.

The atheist has chosen no god, based upon many of the reasons that theists use in not choosing god(S) they have no belief in. Or at least the theists say they did, by looking at the "available evidence", objectively.

You tell me who's most likely looking at the "evidence", objectively

You or the Muslim, the Judaic believer or the Hindu, or the people who profess a belief in the Chinese folk deities(numerous, to say the least), and other believers in other deities all say they were objective in the choice they made.

Which, for the theist, is anecdotal and subjectively reasoned evidence based in the faith in a belief that theists all rely on, and that applies to - every - theist, else you'd all come to the same conclusion, concerning a deity, if it was objectively examined...

So, do you think theists are looking at the evidences for deities objectively?

Or do you think it's the atheist looking at the evidence(S) concerning deities objectively?

Can you be objective in answering the questions above?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539964 May 26, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so. Your "advice" has quite a few advocates working quite hard in Washington D.C. toward the end RR just posted about.
Tide, I think he sleeps with all the lights on, a weapon at his side, and a Bible on his night table.

Unspeakable paranoia, this guy has.

Don't worry though Chris, the end is surely near.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#539965 May 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe that homosexuality is a choice, for most "gays", because they flip-flop too much from straight sex to gay sex.
I believe that sexual orientation is a personal characteristic, and characteristics can change.
Since there is no commonly accepted consensus that sexual orientation has a specific causation, I tend to lean to the fact that it's a choice.
I say it's a choice, I mean for most. I do believe there are genuine homosexuals out there that just could not have intimate relations with the opposite sex, just as there are many straights out there who could not have intimate relations with the same sex.
The rest are bisexual.
Even by your own words, you indicate that sexual inclination is innate, as you put it - "I say it's a choice, I mean for most. I do believe there are genuine homosexuals out there".

So, the analogy you gave does not apply or relate.

The belief in deities is always a choice. Always.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#539966 May 26, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, I was driving on the 405 freeway and thought the same thing!!
It's a much easier read. In my view, Hume is the most important philosopher to write in English, and he influenced many others (Kant, Bentham and Huxley included). His Treatise of Human Nature, Enquiries Concerning Human Understanding and Concerning the Principles of Morals should be required reading.
My whole intellectual world changed after reading his dichotomy of knowledge versus belief.
RR, start with Hume. Aristotle has waited a long time, and can wait a little longer.
His Treatise of Human Nature is an anthology, I've read parts of it.

Part of it is from Oscar Wilde. When I read that Mr Wilde was a pedophile and even stated in court that he refused kissing a young servant of his because ugly, or in Wilde's words: "He was a particularly plain boy--unfortunately ugly--I pitied him for it.", I could not continue.

I'll remain ignorant on that...

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

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#539967 May 26, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Not so. Your "advice" has quite a few advocates working quite hard in Washington D.C. toward the end RR just posted about.
Name a professed atheist in Congress.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539968 May 26, 2013
simplyput wrote:
No calenders or clocks in HEAVEN.
What about colanders?

Are there colanders in heaven?

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#539969 May 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You described yourself as unable to choose to be gay. Because you're not, you're straight.
Take you for example, I don't know your age but lets say you've been hitting on women, going on dates, having sex, getting married, having kids, etc for 25 years.
How after 25 years of heterosexual relationships can you dare call yourself gay?!
Can you, YOU, imagine yourself doing that?
<quoted text>
I can't buy that. No way. Just as you & I are discussing ourselves, hypothetically, as 'deciding' to be gay.
As a straight man, there's no way I could get intimate with a man. I don't care about the societal circumstances you're talking about. A real gay person could not fake it long enough to get to the point of marriage & kids.
Are you talking gay stuff again?

You do a lot of that.

Why?

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#539970 May 26, 2013
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
It is not bigotry to call your filthy philosophy for what it is.
You did not have to be a christian, you chose that moral failing.
you misunderstand bigotry, but no surprise.
It is not bigotry to call your filthy perversion for what it is.
You did not have to be a queer, you chose that moral failing.
You misunderstand bigotry, but no surprise.

See how that works?
Now go outside, come back in, and this time lift your knuckles off the floor.
Try it now ...

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539972 May 26, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>This is TopixWorld ...get a life.
OK, I'll be right back.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539973 May 26, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
How'd that work out in the end?
Woody Allen said it very well (paraphrasing here):

Eternity is a very long time--especially near the end.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#539974 May 26, 2013
Chess Jurist wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you talking gay stuff again?
You do a lot of that.
Why?
Why do you talk the God stuff?

You must be a closet Christian.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539975 May 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You described yourself as unable to choose to be gay. Because you're not, you're straight.
Take you for example, I don't know your age but lets say you've been hitting on women, going on dates, having sex, getting married, having kids, etc for 25 years.
How after 25 years of heterosexual relationships can you dare call yourself gay?!
Can you, YOU, imagine yourself doing that?
<quoted text>
I can't buy that. No way. Just as you & I are discussing ourselves, hypothetically, as 'deciding' to be gay.
As a straight man, there's no way I could get intimate with a man. I don't care about the societal circumstances you're talking about. A real gay person could not fake it long enough to get to the point of marriage & kids.
Yeah, right, RR, you never post after 5 p.m.

Broken clock, or what?

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#539976 May 26, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
What about colanders?
Are there colanders in heaven?
Of course.

They need 'em to separate the "real" Christians from the pretend ones.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539977 May 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
His Treatise of Human Nature is an anthology, I've read parts of it.
Part of it is from Oscar Wilde. When I read that Mr Wilde was a pedophile and even stated in court that he refused kissing a young servant of his because ugly, or in Wilde's words: "He was a particularly plain boy--unfortunately ugly--I pitied him for it.", I could not continue.
I'll remain ignorant on that...
Your ignorance is not limited to that.

In fact, you're driving me to ignoring you again.

I do have limits, dude.

_-Alice-_

Since: Apr 13

Location hidden

#539978 May 26, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it does. I blame you not understanding on your bible ignorance.
No, it doesn't. I blame you not understanding on your homosexual ignorance.

Since: Jul 08

Location hidden

#539979 May 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you talk the God stuff?
You must be a closet Christian.
And you really believe that?

Or are you simply upset that I know your myth better than you, goofy?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#539980 May 26, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Name a professed atheist in Congress.
Pete Stark WAS, until this year.

Today, none that I'm aware of.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#539981 May 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you talk the God stuff?
You must be a closet Christian.
Lol..........

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