Why Should Jesus Love Me?
mike

AOL

#539211 May 25, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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Ja... for some it might be a place of rest from suffering Mike, but I'm alive and found it in YouTube, liked it, so posted it.
Thanks

I'm just trying to find meaning.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#539212 May 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>No, Annie, I don't think so. It is a stinginess of spirit that would cause somebody to refuse to vote in favor of others having the freedom to live peaceful lives as they choose.

AnnieJ wrote, "..I don't know...it is however a step in the right direction. I am not sure that we can expect any more than that at this point in time."

Yes, it is a step in the right direction. Every step is like walking on Jupiter - like dragging a two ton weight.

AnnieJ wrote, "I have a lot of faith in our youth."

Yes, they are the hope. They are also the least Christian age group. Coincidence?

The church understands this as well, which is why it wants a presence in the schools.

AnnieJ wrote, "Even most of the youth involved in Christianity do not want a message of division."

Why do you suppose that is? Where do you suppose that they are learning those values? In church?

AnnieJ wrote, "there will always be those that hate for whatever reason. I think racism is good example of that...there are still those that have racist thoughts...it even rears its ugly head here on this thread at times."

I don't expect to see Christian homophobia disappear, either. I just want its power drained and its message shamed. You invoked the example of racism. Once, racist views were considered acceptable. Today, the culture is trained to shout that crap down, and racists have to think twice before expressing their vile sentiments. I'd like to see the same in this department.
Well said and I completely agree with you.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#539213 May 25, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. like yourself, I'm always interested in discussing another person's sex life. It's so refreshing !!..
.. tell me, do you muff dive? Are you into bondage? How do you feel about light S&M. Have you ever had sex in the shower or kitchen? How do you feel about using toys? Do you have a prescription for Viagra? Are you a one-minute man ??..
.. this is so much fun !!..
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Why?
.. ask Trifecta ..
mike

AOL

#539214 May 25, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Hello Mike ~ do you believe in what you post?
Hello Serah

Maybe?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#539216 May 25, 2013
Adam wrote:
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I heard you brother is gay but I didnĀ“t know that Annie J has a gay son. My regrets for you both. But I think I have asked Ironically the right ones. You have a perspective of a sister while Annie J has a perspective of a gay mother. If you were christian than you should take it serious how the bible thinks about it.I am not judging you or Annie J I am just criticizing how those ppl try to deal being gay saying that the LORD Elohim not Jesus Christ have blessed them with love and tolernace when the bible plainly says it is wrong what they are doing.
First Adam...you are critizing...you are now and you have since you have been on this thread.

Second...you did know that I have a gay son...you have posted some fairly horrible things to me before concerning it.

Third...I do not care what you think is right or wrong.

Fourth and finally...

For a long time I tried to ignore your hatred...I tried to be your friend despite you implying that my son should be killed. I did so because I thought that maybe if someone was kind to you that you might be a little kinder yourself. I knew that you were Muslim and had been raised with different values...

I also thought that you were just a young teenager...that is how your posts read...maybe 18 or 19 at best. I was shocked when you revealed that you are actually 35.

Adam...grow up...get over your obsession...your paranoia...

You posted to Serah and I because you wanted to humiliate...so don't lie about it.

Despite everything that you have said in the past...I don't hate you. Instead there is a part of me that feels pity for you. I can not imagine being so obsessed...frightened...angry. ..feeling so much hatred that you spend so much of your life trying to rid it of what scares you. That is sad.

I feel sorry for anyone that feels so much hatred that they would belittle another human being...I don't care what faith you are or even a lack of faith.

Stop being afraid of differences...instead embrace them...learn from them...most of all...don't hate because of them. At the end of the day...you have not gained anything...you have only lost.

Since: Oct 10

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#539217 May 25, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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The point of what? That was my question.
The point of the questions. Which is what you asked. Maybe I just wonder. And besides, I asked first :) Are the questions too dificult? They are for oppinions. Don't you have an oppinion on those questions?:) Come on Alice your not playing right :)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539218 May 25, 2013
hick-up wrote:
Excuse me Ians. I meant Alice.
I hold no ill will. I still remember your comments about dependence and addiction, which I appreciated.

You meant what you posted, however. You think that I have no right to an opinion about America because I expatriated from it. That's not correct.

I agree to not exercise my right to vote, since I don't contribute to the treasury or the economy, and since voting at the national level is pointless anyway.

But I don't concede any other rights of a citizen. Do you think that I should refuse a Social Security check when I'm old enough to receive one?

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#539219 May 25, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe what you believe is pointless.
i believe what you believe is absurd

“~ Prince of Peace~”

Since: Apr 08

~ And the greatest is LOVE~

#539220 May 25, 2013
GOOBYE.....

Turn the light off....If you want to....It's up to you

((*L-))

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#539222 May 25, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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If marriage has always changed to suit the prevalent culture
What would marriage look like if it was truly traditional? It would look like this:
You would be able to marry a child
Interracial couples could not marry
People of different beliefs could not marry
The Church of England would not exist.
again.. i dont care if they get the right to marry,...YHWH will deal with that when a soul filthy and stink wiith perversion reach him.that not my business.. what my business is society giving marriage licenses to a group that spreads a pestilence disease at the highest rates. they are a threat to public health. lacez is a threat to public health.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539223 May 25, 2013
Adam wrote:
You [Serah] have a perspective of a sister while Annie J has a perspective of a gay mother. If you were christian than you should take it serious how the bible thinks about it.
You said a mouthful there. We should all take homophobic teaching seriously, but not in the way you mean.

Here we have two sensitive and loving women in conflict with your bible's teaching. yet you call your bible love. I'll take the maternal and sororal versions over your god's version.

If you church had its way, both of these women would be in conflict with loved ones.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539224 May 25, 2013
Serah wrote:
There would be no 'what if'~ GOD would not ask me to kill a child.... end of story.
You refuse to deal with the issue, which is answer enough. This is how faith works. You pick something to believe, and that's the end of the thinking.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#539225 May 25, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I hold no ill will. I still remember your comments about dependence and addiction, which I appreciated.
You meant what you posted, however. You think that I have no right to an opinion about America because I expatriated from it. That's not correct.
I agree to not exercise my right to vote, since I don't contribute to the treasury or the economy, and since voting at the national level is pointless anyway.
But I don't concede any other rights of a citizen. Do you think that I should refuse a Social Security check when I'm old enough to receive one?
Ians I find you to be very intelligent. I also find that I agree with you on many fronts.

As for SSN; you'll receive from it according to what you put into it. You paid into it; you deserve it ...it's yours.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539226 May 25, 2013
Khatru wrote:
What you're doing here is putting limits on what your god will/won't do. In one breath we hear Christians saying how puny our human minds are compared to their god and that we can never hope to fathom his intent. In another breath they'll say that they know exactly what their god thinks and they are absolutely certain about this.

[QUOTE who="Serah"]Is that what I'm doing? I thought I was answering a stupid question.
No, you were trying to avoid an excellent question. What your answer says is that you recognize that the story of Abraham's faith is morally absurd, and that answers such as "Our minds are too puny to understand God's will" just don't cut it.

Good for you.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539227 May 25, 2013
Second try:
Khatru wrote:
What you're doing here is putting limits on what your god will/won't do. In one breath we hear Christians saying how puny our human minds are compared to their god and that we can never hope to fathom his intent. In another breath they'll say that they know exactly what their god thinks and they are absolutely certain about this.
Serah wrote:
Is that what I'm doing? I thought I was answering a stupid question.
No, you were trying to avoid an excellent question. What your answer says is that you recognize that the story of Abraham's faith is morally absurd, and that answers such as "Our minds are too puny to understand God's will" just don't cut it.

Good for you.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#539228 May 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Ah..... So to you:
Gay, non-married sex = bad, sin, evil, etc.
Straight, non-married sex = bad, but not so bad.
==========
Atheists, gays: This is the intolerance y'alls is talkin about, huh?
Khatru wrote:
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You've hit the nail on the head.
These people just have a natural hatred for gays which they then try to make holy.
.. perhaps it's just a personal distaste, not a hate ??..

.. for me, the thought of violent S&M is a total turnoff. Do I hate the people who indulge in it? No. But, it gets tricky ..

.. if I believe the bible says violent S&M is sinful, against nature, lewd, I could use the book to promote laws and discrimination against such behavior based on my personal dislike ..

.. some people aren't particularly fond of homosexuality, they dislike it. I get that. Only education, underscored by a change in attitudes and an understanding of human sexuality will eliminate the stigma associated with homosexuality ..

.. dumping the bible would also help; it camouflages personal dislikes and prejudices into a fake moral battlefield when, in reality, homosexuality is perfectly natural, especially for the homosexual ..

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#539229 May 25, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Do you like being fed? Which position?
.. why do you insist on tempting me ??..

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539230 May 25, 2013
Serah wrote:
I did not need to prove to GOD that I had so much Faith in HIM that I would go to the Pharaohs and plead for the release of the Slaves. Abraham proved his Faith and they went to the Pharaoh (even though they had thought they would be stoned to death) because of that Faith.
I'm stunned by this. Have you heard of Moses? He was the pharoah guy. Abraham was the filicide guy, and he preceded Moses. And Noah was the flood guy who preceded them both. Adam, the apple guy, was the first of them all.
Serah wrote:
Don't even think of comparing me to Abraham.....
Too late. I already did - twice.

But the good news is that you did better than he did.

Since: Oct 12

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#539231 May 25, 2013
mike wrote:
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Thanks
Consider other possibilities when reading bible stories.
Bible stories are hard to believe and never duplicated.
Why do you think judah ended-up with his son's wife, if he didn't first desire her?
How about "Lot" and his daughters, those children of theirs never followed the GOD concept.
It is of no importance of what I think,so is no possibilties to consider.I said it once before remember,much like the man who desires a woman walking on a beach and which sea shell shall he chooses.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#539232 May 25, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>I am a Christian ~ where is it in the New Testament that we have been asked to take anyone's life?
Your bible has two Testaments. Or have you excised the first two thirds of it off? Not a bad idea.

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