Why Should Jesus Love Me?

RiversideRedneck

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#534801 May 16, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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What exactly do gays do to you in public, RR?
Were you attacked by a rabid gang of gays in your hood? Did they hold you down and force you to look at paint chips or fabric swatches?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g7Png3soJvc/UWQt6UN...
The only reason you know I'm gay and the only reason I know you're Christian is because we told each other. That is how it should be, IMO. If we had met at Starbucks; my guess is that we wouldn't know the difference. What either of us do in private should never come up in polite conversation between strangers.
Thanks for proving my point, darlin.

Now the next time IANS preaches that Christians should keep our prayers private and "in our living rooms", you'll nail him for it, right?

RiversideRedneck

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#534802 May 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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Since you believe Satan and Jesus are real, you should be able to answer the question:
Does Jesus love Satan?
Why is it that you refuse to answer?
How about others here?
Satan was one of God's angels who was bad, so he was cast out, he was punished for his sins, but God still loves him.

Kinda like a parent punishing their child - it's necessary, but not necessarily enjoyed.

RiversideRedneck

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#534803 May 16, 2013
Lacez wrote:
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It's in the SAME PART of the bible you are referring to in order to hate gay people. It says to eat shellfish, to even touch pork, to wear mixed fabrics, is JUST as bad as being gay.
WHERE does it name homosexuality as a sin?
Where does it SPECIFICALLY say "homosexuality is a sin"?
It's not just homosexuality, it's all forms of fornication.

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Rom. 1:26-28, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."

RiversideRedneck

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#534804 May 16, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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I am Spartacus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =xdm0TaQUU-QXX
Okay, you're Spartacus.

Now go make me a sammich, I can't eat HL's anymore.(I think she's tryin ta kill me)

RiversideRedneck

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#534805 May 16, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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"But the prophet who shall speak a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he shall speak in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. And you may say in your heart,“How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?”...
...When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:20-22).
It means it had to happen just as foretold or prophesied.
On the other hand, there were things the Jesus said, and the story says he was put to death. Those things haven't happened. The fact that the Jesus was killed before complete fulfillment of messianic prophecy is a proof in and of itself the Jesus was a false "Messiah".
I know, I know, I know...."second coming".
All of the tasks to be done by "Messiah" were to be completed during the lifetime of that person. Once revealed. While here. First time. One time. Only time. There was no "second coming" involved according to OT messianic prophecy.
Christians cite other portions of the OT with tortured, massaged and tweaked interpretations as Messianic prophecies. Just because Christianity claims this as prophecy doesn't make them OT Messianic prophecies. No matter how vehemently Christians may claim them to be.
No one really likes discussing that.
So, yeah, back to the story of Peter and denial, according to the Yahweh! words, once the Jesus! said it would happen a certain way, it had to happen just as he said.
Peter had no freewill in that instance.
You're distorting scripture and probably don't even know it.

Peter had every opportunity to not do as Jesus prophesied but he didn't. He chose to.

Like I said, you cannot demonstrate that Jesus forced Peter to do anything.

Since you can't, your theory is reduced to a hypothesis.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#534806 May 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I used to think that.
Did you see these?
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Do you still think that Jesus is very, very good now, or that he should serve as a model? Aren't you already just as good as he was? How does he outperform you on the goodness scale? Would I be worse off patterning my life after your moral values than Jesus'? I'll bet not.
What aspect of Jesus' life was exemplary?
Where does Jesus explain how to love, or demonstrate it? Sure, he talks about it, but where does he teach it?
I guess I just don't know much about the guy.

I just hear about loving everybody, and turning the other cheek, and sort of being a socialist.

Did Jesus himself say the things you cite?

Since: May 11

Nottingham, UK

#534807 May 16, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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I guess I just don't know much about the guy.
I just hear about loving everybody, and turning the other cheek, and sort of being a socialist.
Did Jesus himself say the things you cite?
Sorry to interject but does anything jesus,`said` even approach the level of hearsay?

Since: May 11

Nottingham, UK

#534808 May 16, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You're distorting scripture and probably don't even know it.
Peter had every opportunity to not do as Jesus prophesied but he didn't. He chose to.
Like I said, you cannot demonstrate that Jesus forced Peter to do anything.
Since you can't, your theory is reduced to a hypothesis.
You must first prove the bible(the authority upon which you rely) to be factual or your rebuttal is reduced to mere musings.

RiversideRedneck

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#534809 May 16, 2013
scaritual wrote:
But, we....
We're talking about the deity hypothesis, or "gods".
Yeessss...... And you divert?
This'll piss you off, cause it's one of your pet peeves.
Which god?
You dislike that question, but you assume that yours is the only one(yes?), Hindus have their deity concepts, etc...
It's not that I dislike the question, it's just a retarded and diversionary question. I'm Christian, scar. You ***should*** know "which god"...

I'll not entertain your perceptions of Hindu gods.

RiversideRedneck

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#534810 May 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Not too much.
Does it show?
I had to read between the lines, but I got it...

RiversideRedneck

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#534811 May 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Keep waiting.
Why would she get involved? The Dimwit has begged for the insults. He has done everything in his power to start them and perpetuate them. He works overtime to keep them coming.
Did he not see what happened between me and G_O_D and how little it took for me to relent? All he did was suggest indirectly that he might have been wrong - something about his head up his girlfriend's ass. That was contrition enough for me, wasn't it? On that basis of that alone, and nothing else at all, I chose to bury the hatchet without any more of an apology than that.
The Dimwit has assiduously worked not only to avoid even the tiniest hint of contrition, he has actually escalated his offensive.
How should I deal with that? And why should Happy Lesbo object?
Nobody needs to feel sorry for that piece of garbage. He deserves every single word of abuse he gets.
You don't see the bigotry in your words, do you?

It's just like saying "He deserves to sit in the back of the because he's black"

C'mon, IANS. I thought you were better than this.

RiversideRedneck

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#534812 May 16, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Nobody needs pity.
What about the foo?

RiversideRedneck

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#534813 May 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Yes, it is. Sorry. That's what I see.
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Your alternative appear to be to fight it, accept it, or leave it.
I think fighting is in vain.
I chose not to accept it for a variety of reasons that might not pertain to you. Perhaps staying put would be better for you. America might not be too bad if you're conservative. You might get what you want, although if you do, I'll bet you won't want it after you get it.
And if you choose to leave, Mexico is only one option. I'm well satisfied with it, but you might not be.
I hear that Ecuador, Thailand and Chile are decent places to live as well, although I have no first hand knowledge. I've also heard good things about Belize and Costa Rica. Europe is pricier than any of these.
I do get what I want in America, I see no reason to tuck tail and run.

She's worth fighting for, man.

RiversideRedneck

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#534814 May 16, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Ditto. I appreciate your good nature lately.
I'm trying my damndest to keep the peace in these parts.

NOT an easy task.....
mike

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#534815 May 16, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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I reread my post...I did not call it one's imagination...one believes whatever appears to them to be real. Maybe that reality is from the need to believe it is real...I can't speak to that when it comes to someone else.
Again...from my recollection...
From Biblical teaching...nothing else is needed but relying on God. It tells you often that God is all you need.
Again Mike...if believing that one is still connected to a loved one...does that harm anyone? Life is sometimes pretty tough...if "speaking" to a loved one makes it easier and brings comfort...then who are we to question that? All within reason of course...
Maybe someone can justify it biblically but I can't find any scripture that does...maybe I am just not looking in the right places.
Thanks
This life is tough, whatever a person use is their choice, no harm, no foul.
In regards to christianity, if you claim to believe in a GOD, using other things will nullify your belief.

You can't claim believing in a GOD, but use dead people for comfort.

RiversideRedneck

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#534816 May 16, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
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Genies:
RR might like this one.
There were three girls on a deserted island. One Blonde, one brunette and one red head. One day a bottle washed up. One of them picked it up and while rubbing the sand off of it, a Genie appeared.
"Since you released me from the bottle, I will allow three wishes. As there are three of you here, you each get one wish", said the Genie.
He looked first to the dark haired girl. She said, "I would like to back home with my boyfriend."
POOF !! She was gone.
He looked next to the red haired girl. She said, "I want to be back home with my family".
POOF !! She was gone.
He looked at the yellow haired girl. "What is your wish?", asked the Genie.
She looked around sadly and said, "I'm all alone here. I wish my two friends were back."
HA HA HA HA!!!!! Dumb blondes....

That was funny right there!

RiversideRedneck

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#534817 May 16, 2013
scaritual wrote:
Correction:*no one knows*, not, >know one knows<.
Where would we be without typos.....
fcuked.

RiversideRedneck

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#534818 May 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
You are dancing around the truth.
If Jesus already knew what was going to happen, it was "predestined".
There is no "free will" in "predestined"....non e
Like I told scar, in order for that to hold up to scrutiny, you'll have to demonstrate that Jesus was controlling Peter's actions.

RiversideRedneck

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#534819 May 16, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Yet are you sure that those horrors are metaphorical rather than literal?
Which ones?

RiversideRedneck

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#534820 May 16, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>The book says that he would deny him 3 times and when.
That is NOT a hazard guess...it IS knowledge of predestined action.
So what if it was predestined, that simply means to determine an outcome (or course of events) in advance by divine will.

That does not imply that Jesus controlled Peter's actions.

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