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“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#533738 May 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That's irrelevant to a discussion of why there is no record of any miracles having occurred outside of the bible. You'd pretty much need every community within hundreds or thousands of miles to have dived into the sea for there to be no corroborating records of what would have been a topic of great interest anywhere.
Why not? People claim miracles to of occurred in their lives all the time. You and those in agreement with you dismiss it as religous hocus-pocus, or you try and explain it away with science. I give you the theroy of evolution as an example ...mankind evolved from a lesser life form. I won't argue that mankind has indeed evolved from a lesser life form ...but make no mistake; a Homo sapien has always been a Homo sapien ...not something else that shed it's skin and a man walked out.

So who am I to say that something I don't understand has or has not occurred? Who are you to say so? For any human to believe that they can explain away every single unexplained occurence is maddness. Ain't nobody that bright.
Yeah, that's probably it. But not just illiterate. Mute, too.
Neither illiterate or mute. The story's have survived the centuries and were eventually written down.
Are they far-fetched?
Absolutely!
But who am I ...without physical proof or an eyewitness account to say otherwise?
So you're suggesting that the miracles actually occurred, that the only literate people present didn't believe they were miracles, and the only believers present were illiterate?
No, that doesn't strain credulity much. That's very reasonable.
Allow me to give you another example.
The story of a world wide flood is one hell of a tall tale.
Granted!
Do I personally believe that all the dry land worldwide was covered with water? No, I do not. At least not after man walked upon it.(Prior to the continents shifting ...I don't know, but that's another discussion.)

Why I don't believe is because science has dispelled that idea. And like science I ask; where is the world wide layer of mud? And what of the earths electric field while the earth was completely covered in water? Without a ground I have no idea the impact on the earth. Perhaps it would of been sucked into the sun, or shot out into space like a rocket ...I don't know.

Another ...the parting of the Red Sea.
Perhaps the Hebrews were fleeing Egypt; that in itself isn't hard to accept. The key here is that we can't be sure of exactly where they crossed or how far behind were there followers. Any number of natural phenomenon could expose earth ...muddy yes, but still earth.
That doesn't suggest anything to you about the veracity of those beliefs or the ease with which people make and believe these kinds of claims?
Who am I to say.
I believe in shooting stars.

Since: Mar 09

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#533739 May 14, 2013
Le_le wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for your honesty.
I do appreciate it.
:)
And I am sure Lacez does too.
The thing is--Skom goes for the jugular- and won't let
go till you kiss his ego- or you just leave the thread..
I see you tried to engage him -again- a little while ago..lol.
Then you realized what a mistake you had made-- there's just no making
sense out of his anger.
Again you are delusional if you think I am angry. And nobody needs to kiss anything or leave. And kissing up to me would get me to look the other way on lies anyhow. I couldnt go for the jugular with no ammo and id have no ammo if you guys didnt keep lying and being hypocrites. Dont blame me for your shortcomings. And who are you trying to kid? you try to go for the throat very time You just arent smart enough and have no facts to support your claims. You guys get caught lying while trying to insult ppl and then cry victim? please

Since: Mar 09

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#533740 May 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
You ought to know: Felon, drug addict, and pathological liar.
The entire thread seems to be on to you. It's obvious why you don't like others comparing notes about you.
Lol compare away dummy...i am the one that posted the info in the first place. lol. Do you really think I am worried about its use? poor desperate ians!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533741 May 14, 2013
Mark wrote:
Christianity redefined every major concept to fool people. They redefined concepts like "God", "Love", "Justice", "Peace" to artificial concepts that are not only unnatural, but often a reversal. When Jesus talks about his "Love" he means his mercy. When he talks about love for him, he talks about "obedience". There is no true Love in Jesus at all, but the word is used all the time to fool people into thinking is he such a warm-hearted guy. Yes as loving as a psychopath that tortures people endlessly. What a perverted love and how "forgiving".
I'll second that.

And don't forget spirituality. The Christians have totally defiled that concept as well.
Mark wrote:
that is what Christianity is, the cultural remains of the Roman slave Empire.
Not surprisingly, the summum bonum of Christianity is submission and obedience - slave mentality. They lament free will, which they reference incessantly, first calling it a gift from their god, then warning us not to exercise it. They call autonomy pride and rebellion.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533742 May 14, 2013
Mark wrote:
Jesus says: suffering is the path to heaven! Both brilliant and pervertedly evil.
The whole religion is designed to make one complacent about being exploited. As you note, you're to be glad for your suffering. Unfortunately, that attitude made it into a famous hospice:

"I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people." – Mother Teresa

Yes, that is perverted.

Moreover, you're to be meek about you suffering, meaning not to exert your will. You are to submit to it. In fact, if you're slapped, you're to offer the other cheek to suffer more. The word "longsuffering" is revealing.

And why should people consent to that? Because all will be made right in heaven, where absorbing so much abuse without resistance will be rewarded with pie in the sky.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533743 May 14, 2013
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Skombolis wrote:
I agree, I said it to be funny
Or do you mean the fact that 60 year old straight man always fantasizes about creepy physical contact with a guy 20 years his younger? That is funny too, but a different kind of funny!
It just occurred to me: you didn't realize that you effed up "genital" and typed "gentile" instead when you posted it to me. I said that you were lying when I thought that you meant that you typed "gentile" to be funny. But you were unaware of what Catcher was commenting on.

Look at it again, shit-fer-brains:
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...

What a nice illustration of your abysmal reading comprehension.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533744 May 14, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
I posted your [Lacez] own words and linked them for you
Then you recognize the necessity of doing that to support your claims when you can. The implications are obvious regarding the dozens of times when you couldn't.
Skombolis wrote:
Just about any person you have had an interaction with has had to question your maturity and ability comprehend simple things
You're criticizing another poster's comprehension? How clueless can you be?

You wrote "gentile" for "genital" and then missed it when it was shown back to you.

And you've yet to comprehend that addiction is psychological and dependence is physiological despite being told repeatedly. These are both just in the last day or two.

And it's a recurrent problem for you. How many times have I had to call you out on your abysmal reading comprehension? These are all examples of your useless mind in action from just the last three months or so:

post532961 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post520751 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post491508 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post491501 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post489052 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post488120 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post486692 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post486689 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
Skombolis wrote:
it is just funny to me you skipped the post proving exactly what I said with your own words and still are trying to claim I twisted your words.
What's funny to me is that when you can't do that with me, you phrase it along the lines that you can't be bothered. Obviously you are lying again.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533745 May 14, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
Many of us are the victims of atheist hatred.
How do you figure?

Do you have a point other than that you long for the days when only Christians had a voice? You don't like to hear from us, do you? And you are outraged that we are not enamored of your filthy little religion, and that we dare to say so.

Get used to it. It's only just begun. Can't you tell? Just look at the changes in this thread, which is an epitome of the same phenomenon unfolding on the societal level: first we were nowhere to be seen or heard. Then we began expressing opinions, meekly at first. We were unsure of our place. You people have behaved miserably, antagonizing unbelievers for having the gall to express skepticism. So now we are more aggressive. Now we are calling your church what it is - a blister on the "gentiles" (sic) of society.
Here For Now wrote:
No answer required or wanted. Shaking head at your inability to notice anything but the sound of your own voice, so to speak.
It sounds to me like you still only want to "hear" your own Christian "voice." This atheist answered anyway. Get used to it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533746 May 14, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
twas I who PM'ed Lacez, told him to be careful, that SKOM twists things
Skombolis wrote:
I knew it was you
Liar. Obviously.

There is no way you knew that Lacez was referring Happy Lesbo. None of us did. Why? Because any number of us might have been the one to tell him about you.

Le_Le and I both assumed that you would think it was us, because it easily could have been. We've both gone on record calling you a liar that twists and mangles the words of others.

Or it could have been Catcher or Tide. They have both dealt with you at that level as well.

Had Lacez claimed that somebody called you a Dimwit in a PM, you would know who did it. But calling you a liar? It could have been any number of us.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533747 May 14, 2013
Bongo wrote:
You're [the Dimwit] a petty obstreperous troglodyte who makes mountains out of mole hills as if what you yarf about really matters. Try foregoing the psychosis and focus on better material.
Yes, it is you. And yes, you are a word guy - obstreperous troglodyte.

You obviously know the Dimwit well already.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533748 May 14, 2013
Khatru wrote:
Continued...
Perhaps it's because there's nothing in the Bible that says God gave us free will. That's right, in the whole Bible the subject of God-given free will is conspicuous by its absence.
Contrast that with the fact that there are scriptures that speak against quite clearly against free will:
We all know about the incidents where God intervened by hardening people's hearts (Pharaoh & King of Heshbon).
Romans 9:18 tells us how "God chooses to make some people refuse to listen".
Romans 11:32 - "God consigns all men to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them".
Isaiah 63:17 - "Why, Lord, dost thou cause us to stray from thy ways?".
Ephesians 1:11 - Tells us how we were chosen in advance by God and that everything works out in accordance with his plan.
There are other scriptures but it gets tedious hearing pretty much the same thing over and over again. It seems to me that despite what Christians say, according to the Bible, the much-vaunted concept free will doesn't really have a place in God's world.
Great post! I've added your citations to my list of lists: scriptures contradicting the doctrine of free will.

Dan Barker made a list of terms of interest that appear nowhere in the bible. I guess that we can add free will to it.

“The next time believers tell you that "separation of church and state" does not appear in our founding document, tell them to stop using the word "trinity." The word "trinity" appears nowhere in the bible. Neither does Rapture, or Second Coming, or Original Sin. If they are still unfazed (or unphrased) by this, then add Omniscience, Omnipresence, Supernatural, Transcendence, Afterlife, Deity, Divinity, Theology, Monotheism, Missionary, Immaculate Conception, Christmas, Christianity, Evangelical, Fundamentalist, Methodist, Catholic, Pope, Cardinal, Catechism, Purgatory, Penance, Transubstantiation, Excommunication, Dogma, Chastity, Unpardonable Sin, Infallibility, Inerrancy, Incarnation, Epiphany, Sermon, Eucharist, the Lord's Prayer, Good Friday, Doubting Thomas, Advent, Sunday School, Dead Sea, Golden Rule, Moral, Morality, Ethics, Patriotism, Education, Atheism, Apostasy, Conservative (Liberal is in), Capital Punishment, Monogamy, Abortion, Pornography, Homosexual, Lesbian, Fairness, Logic, Republic, Democracy, Capitalism, Funeral, Decalogue, or Bible.”- Dan Barker

Since: Mar 09

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#533749 May 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Look at it again, shit-fer-brains:
Is your diaper full again? You seem cranky LOL

Since: Mar 09

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#533750 May 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Liar. Obviously.
There is no way you knew that Lacez was referring Happy Lesbo. None of us did. Why? Because any number of us might have been the one to tell him about you.
Le_Le and I both assumed that you would think it was us, because it easily could have been. We've both gone on record calling you a liar that twists and mangles the words of others.
Or it could have been Catcher or Tide. They have both dealt with you at that level as well.
Had Lacez claimed that somebody called you a Dimwit in a PM, you would know who did it. But calling you a liar? It could have been any number of us.
I knew it was her because she tipped her hand in a post to B-man talking about how things were different on tues (without coming out and saying that was the day I started posting again) and it was obvious she was attempting to blame me even though I ignored you until you posted to me

HL is very manipulative. When someone stated someone was basically doing the same thing by t-mail, it wasn't hard to figure out who it was. And Tide and Catcher don't strike me as the gossip types. I think they would post it right to me or right to Lacez about me if they had something to say. HL likes to do her dirty work under the radar

And I don't lie on Topix. Never have. You on the other hand lie constantly. You lie after I give you your posts and keep asking for me to re-post the posts I have already posted! You feign ignorance. You change stories. You give preposterous explanations that people who once defended you on now had to see later that you were lying all along. You bigotry has been exposed for all to see. No amount of lies can change that now. You have marginalized yourself is the ironic thing. Coming here worked out great for you huh?

:)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533751 May 14, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
Thew romans tired to kill all Christians remember? but that only multiplied them.
I doubt it. I'll bet it thinned them.

Christianity would have been forgotten long ago without the help of a series of imperialistic governments compelling people to accept it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#533752 May 14, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
people are free moral agents to do good or evil. If God stepped in every time someone plots evil, then that person free will have been taken away.
Not at all. If I the police stepped in to foil some "evil" plot, would the conspirators have lost their freewill, or merely had its expression thwarted? Obviously, free will doesn't mean the ability to express that will.

What do you think free will means? How would you know if you had free will or not? What would it be like if your will were programmed into you? Would it still be free? Would it feel any different that it does now.

If you study this matter a little, you'll discover that you really don't know just what you mean by free will, and have no way to determine whether it exists. For all we know, our wills are determined by neural electrochemical processes, and are in principle as predictable as eclipses.
trifecta1 wrote:
God allows evil doers to prevail sometimes, God allows good to prevail sometimes. One man does evil kidnaps 3 girls for 10yrs. Another man do good by giving part of his kidney to save the life of a stranger.
Exactly the same as if there were no god. How shrewd of it to always do exactly what a nonexistent god would do.
trifecta1 wrote:
I no see anything wrong with it. God give the human the free will to show love, or hate. It perfect.
No. Perfect would be if there were no will to hate in the world.

Look at how deformed your thinking is under the influence of your church.

Since: Mar 09

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#533753 May 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Then you recognize the necessity of doing that to support your claims when you can. The implications are obvious regarding the dozens of times when you couldn't.
<quoted text>
You're criticizing another poster's comprehension? How clueless can you be?
You wrote "gentile" for "genital" and then missed it when it was shown back to you.
And you've yet to comprehend that addiction is psychological and dependence is physiological despite being told repeatedly. These are both just in the last day or two.
And it's a recurrent problem for you. How many times have I had to call you out on your abysmal reading comprehension? These are all examples of your useless mind in action from just the last three months or so:
post532961 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post520751 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post491508 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post491501 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post489052 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post488120 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post486692 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
post486689 http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T0N0LOR...
<quoted text>
What's funny to me is that when you can't do that with me, you phrase it along the lines that you can't be bothered. Obviously you are lying again.
Dependence is addiction

How were you ever a doctor??

Once AGAIN

DEFINITION

drug addiction,

a condition characterized by an overwhelming desire to continue taking a drug to which one has become habituated through repeated consumption because it produces a particular effect, usually an alteration of mental status. Addiction is usually accompanied by a compulsion to obtain the drug, a tendency to increase the dose, a psychologic or PHYSICAL dependence, and detrimental consequences for the individual and society.

ADDICTION is defined as PHYSICAL DEPENDENCE as well as psychological

Are you just this stupid or this stubborn "doctor"

Good ol' "It Aint Necessarily True strikes again! LOL

I am gonna call you AINT from here on out. Maybe add a "t" in front of it..ya know, for Teddy!

~snicker

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#533754 May 14, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>They had both passed away before I was born ~ my Grandfather was a Military man and I have looked up his Military records but he was married twice and he was a lot older than normal when my Father was born. My sister was burned to death by a couple of boys playing with matches ~ that was hard for my parents to deal with, and actually, my Dad drank a lot after that and my parents split up the night before my 10th birthday and were finally divorced after the required 7 year wait back in those days.

When I went to our equivalent to your John Edwards (Anthony, from Whispers from Beyond), he gave me messages from several of my ancestors who had passed over, and there were no doubts about who he was referring to :) I still have the rose in my closet of treasures as a reminder of that special time in my life.....
That's a sad story, but I'm glad you could find peace with it.

Since: Mar 09

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#533755 May 14, 2013
1)drug addiction definition
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c...

2) Advantages of Opiate Addiction Treatment Method

PHYSICAL ADDICTION to heroin and methadone are removed at once during one treatment that lasts for 4-6 hours.
http://www.doctorhiller.com/en/addiction-trea...

3) pure health group
PHYSICAL ADDICTION refers to the symptoms that occur when substance abstinence is undertaken.
http://www.purehealthgroup.com/harmful-effect...

4) Opiate Withdrawal « Narcotic.net – Call 800-281-9007 For HelpWith narcotics, and especially with opiates, real physical addiction does occur.
http://narcotic.net/opiates/opiate-withdrawal

Gee TAINT, seems like National hotlines, doctors, medical dictionaries, treatment centers, etc all understand it is a PHYSICAL ADDICTION also. Man it must have been a joy to have been a patient of yours when you were too prideful and stubborn to admit you messed up or were too ignorant and blamed your patients for not following your instructions

Maybe now that you are retired you can learn to be a well-informed doctor that actually knows important things about the medicine he prescribed? I mean it won't help all the lives you probably helped ruin, assuming if anybody got addicted it was their fault for being weak, but hey at least you got their money right?

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#533756 May 14, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Congratulations on your beliefs.
It's not a belief, Flying Spaghetti Monster is 100% real! His existence is a fact!
FSM is more real than your god could ever be. I hope one day to taste his heavenly spaghetti and that day I will laugh at you, for you will not have spaghetti.

“Engaged to the love of my life”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#533757 May 14, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>You've hit the nail on the head. The Dimwit is an insufferable liar that will distort your words, then call you the liar. And don't bother asking him for evidence when he insists that you said this or that. The Dimwit is a faith based thinker and doesn't do evidence.
I've started ignoring him, he's not worth my time.
At least the others here have some shred of understanding of the sentences posted.

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