Why Should Jesus Love Me?
mztza

Mesa, AZ

#533178 May 12, 2013
too late for that question,
JESUS already proved that,
by dying on the cross
otherwise, he wouldn't have done it
for JESUS, it wasn't a sacrifice,
he willing did it, so that in time like a prodigal son, we would have a chance, for paradise with him
how, many willingly for love, to defend, to protect, principles even honor, would die for them

we see it, willing to die for country, missionaries in 3rd world countries, police, firefighters,
all of them, trying to give everybody a chance
thats why JESUS did that, to give EVERYBODY a chance,
because, whether you believe or not
JESUS, believes we are all worth it
AS LOVED

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#533179 May 12, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Yeah, kind of like when someone jokes about the love between a man and his wife and wanting to cause them a divorce by trying to tempt the woman to engage in meaningless sex with her against her moral and religious beliefs. And whose motivation in part seems to be getting satisfaction out of the harm it would cause the husband.
No matter how low love is placed by others, you need to look up to see it from where you are.
You would do better by being straightforward, than by couching your point in sarcasm.
mike

AOL

#533180 May 12, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
Greetings Everyone!
We say what we say or someone else says are "facts". Yet, we say we are always learning. Facts can not be proven as facts. Because we don't know it all. Things can seem to be facts because based on the information we have they are. But new information is discovered and those facts change. Therefore they are not really facts. Most all "facts" that are presented, have a counter set of "facts". Control the terms of the conversation and you control the conversation. Present "facts" according to your view. Attack the inteligence, or any other thing you can find to get those with an opposing view distracted with and you control the terms of the conversation. Not with great knowledge of a topic. But with indults and bulling tactics. This only makes you look inteligent to others who also rely on these tactics. It is not a search for truth. It is a search for making one feel better about themself by degrading others. And it is quite sad. It indicates an inferiority complex in a person who is trying to find self worth. But this aproach will not give self worth. It will only bring momentery satisfaction. It gets the mind off of ones true view of themself for a moment and then leaves one feeling more empty then before. It is much like the person who seeks love. They resort to lust. Always resorting to sexual relations or witty sexual comments to cover for their lack of love. You do have worth. It is in God. And you are loved. It too is in God. Both through Jesus Christ. It is not a physical thing. It is a spiritual thing. Which is where the need is. In the spirit. And the need can only be met, through the spirit. Just some of my thoughts on the matter.
Have a great day everyone :)
You are loved :)
B-man
Wait!

This post would make sense if you leave a GOD out of it.

"Spirit" is a "mindset", the bible express many types of "spirits".

There is no GOD, otherwise prove it.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#533181 May 12, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>You lies agian, so you gonna , So you swear to your Christian God (mad man-made) that you tell truth and nothing but truth , that you not lie to you teeth that you Democrat ! You supported the Illegal US wars as Xtain fundmentalism is interrelated , you right wing because you support most US illicit overseas war... it a right wing agenda of Republican , you no Democrat , caught you fibbing again! Because you have no intellectual counters to my posts! But Poster ' it Ain't necessary ' is well read and educated have no problem understand me , you can take your BS and shove! BWHAHHAHAAHAHHAhaa if you can understand my "BWHAHAHAHAAHahahahah " then i would say you are mentally deficient , yo a real SCUMbolis BWHAHHHAHAHAH did i irritate you again SCUmbolis!
Again, for you to irritate me I would have to be able to understand you and I can only follow like 5% of your postings

And no I am not lying about being a Democrat and no I never supported the wars as I have always felt we need to take care of our own people domestically before worrying about overseas, and that is even when our motives are altruistic.

I would get into more of it but I have a hunch your brain would process it into something different all together so it wouldn't be a judicious use of my time
Bongo

Bronx, NY

#533182 May 12, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
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Are you capable of using an analogy that doesn't involve physical contact between us?
You standing on me, me jumping up on you, you shoving things in my colon, you chewing on me, you wanting me to roll over and get personal with a body orifice, etc, etc?
You are one creepy dude!
Whatever latent desires are working their way to the surface, I am really not interested as I try not to concern myself with that aspect of people's pertsonal lives. Just leave me out of it is all i am saying
Hey, the creepy dude you refer to is probably the coolest dead head south of the rio grande

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#533183 May 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You would do better by being straightforward, than by couching your point in sarcasm.
There was nothing sarcastic about it

The disrespect she has shown towards love by finding humor in the idea of ruining someone's marriage for a cheap sexual encounter speaks for itself. So for her to claim others have brought love to a low level is amazing. She has lowered the bar worse than anything i have seen. Most the comments, even vulgar or distasteful ones, were done as casual insults. She has gotten pleasure out of repeatedly making a man's wife the target and in a way she knows will offend the most.

I can't be any more straight-forward about it. Her having to look up was metaphorical speech, not sarcasm
Bongo

Bronx, NY

#533185 May 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what.
I'm not interested in claiming words, just in having spiritual experiences.
So here's my offer: You go by whatever definition you want, and I get to have spiritual experiences without the supernatural.
Deal?
So youre searching for God? As unlikely as that is you may be lucky enough to be granted a spiritual experience by simply understanding and researching the "operation of God" .

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#533186 May 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what.
I'm not interested in claiming words, just in having spiritual experiences.
So here's my offer: You go by whatever definition you want, and I get to have spiritual experiences without the supernatural.
Deal?
Like I said, make up any definition you want for words, it makes no difference to me. I never had a vested interest other than to explain why someone, based on the accepted definitions, would probably assume an atheist hasn't had spiritual experiences. If you want to say you have, fine by me. Its a little goofy to me but hey, different strokes.
mike

AOL

#533187 May 12, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
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Good Morning mike :)
Yes, I think without reading first. But, when I read, I sometimes think of something that I wasn't thinking or possibly have never thought before. Reading also helps me to get an understanding of what another is thinking. I don't have to think the same or draw the same conclusions to understand what another is thinking. I think reading is a good thing and trying to understand others is a good thing.
I would say the opposite. There is a God.
It is possible to talk and do. So I do not conclude that because someone says something they must not do that thing. In fact applying that thing is evidence of a person believing that thing.
I do not agree that nothing is accomplished here. New thoughts are presented or old thoughts with a different perspective are presented. Once the new information or perspective is taken in. New actions are taken based on those new thoughts.
Thanks

What would you say was done here more often,.."talking about the GOD concept", "posting scriptures", "bragging about what a GOD has done for them", or saying, "all you need to do is believe in a GOD and everything will work-out good"?
mike

AOL

#533190 May 12, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
Mike
I know you don't understand much of this because of your unbelief but trust me when I say man can not taint the "God concept"
First of all, it isn't a concept. God is God. Second of all, God is God and man is man. And lastly what man does, man is responsible for, not God
I realize you must feel it is an effective strategy to claim being a Christian is bad and then when they don't adhere strictly to their beliefs such as "turn the other cheek" you then criticize them for not being a good Christian. It would be a Catch 22 if it made any sense. If being a Christian is a bad thing then following its rules would be a bad thing as well
Ironically that proves our point. Despite hating Christians, you call on them to act according to how Christ taught because you know that is the very standard for morality. It shows that your real issues are something else all together.
Whatever it is someone in the faith did to you (I suspect your parents from earlier conversations) that has left you so embittered to the faith as a whole and towards hundreds and hundreds of people you never met, it is time to let it go and move on.
I would think even out of a sense of self-respect you would take the position that whoever it is that has left you this way doesn't get to keep winning by having it monopolize your time, day in and day out. If you really want to get back at whoever you are angry with, some of the greatest revenge that can be had is to move on with your life and be happy.
Best of luck Mike
Thanks for the reply, and thanks for being gentle.

I'll find another post of your's to pounce on!

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#533191 May 12, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
<quoted text>
There was nothing sarcastic about it
The disrespect she has shown towards love by finding humor in the idea of ruining someone's marriage for a cheap sexual encounter speaks for itself. So for her to claim others have brought love to a low level is amazing. She has lowered the bar worse than anything i have seen. Most the comments, even vulgar or distasteful ones, were done as casual insults. She has gotten pleasure out of repeatedly making a man's wife the target and in a way she knows will offend the most.
I can't be any more straight-forward about it. Her having to look up was metaphorical speech, not sarcasm
It was sarcasm.

Look it up in a dictionary.
mike

AOL

#533192 May 12, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
<quoted text>
Dramatic "Pat" on the back? I don't understand your thinking here. You indicated that you thought there are only words on here. Your words here seem to indicate that you now think words can convey an action of support and apreciation. Hmmm interesting.
Funny!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#533193 May 12, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the reply, and thanks for being gentle.
I'll find another post of your's to pounce on!
Heh

Until then

:)
mike

AOL

#533194 May 12, 2013
For "Skombolis"

It has been said and taught that there is a GOD. Is there something you can do, or have done, that made a person cry-out with, "There is a GOD"?

Speaking of you personally!

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#533195 May 12, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the reply, and thanks for being gentle.
I'll find another post of your's to pounce on!
You are so predictable.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#533196 May 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
It was sarcasm.
Look it up in a dictionary.
You don;t understand the usage of sarcasm.

sarcasm
Irony employed in the service of mocking or attacking someone is sarcasm. Saying "Oh, you're soooo clever!" with sarcasm means the target is really just a dunderhead.

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/sarcasm

While her hypocrisy it and of itself maybe ironic, there was nothing ironic about my statement itself

She mentioned people taking love to a low level. I claimed she would have to look up to see it. That is not mocking or ironic. It is an accurate statement, metaphorically expressed, to show she has set a worse example than anyone else

The general use of sarcasm is to include irony by saying something while meaning the opposite. The way someone might mock someone stupid by calling them smart. My statement to HL was not meant as the opposite of anything but was a straight-forward expression of where she is on the moral scale

For a lawyer Catcher, I expect better arguments than these. And again, while it may be ironic that as a lawyer you can't come up with better ones, my statement that I expect better arguments from a lawyer is not sarcastic. I actually expect better better arguments from a lawyer

You really need to have a better understanding of how words are defined and used

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#533197 May 12, 2013
mike wrote:
For "Skombolis"
It has been said and taught that there is a GOD. Is there something you can do, or have done, that made a person cry-out with, "There is a GOD"?
Speaking of you personally!
Quite a few actually

But nothing I expect you would believe

You have been here long enough to read the testimony and experiences of many posters, including myself, and still reject even the possibility God exists. I have no reason to believe sharing more experiences with you will make a difference and your mind is made up and your heart is hardened.

There are some subjects I don't get into a lot of detail with, depending on the poster, as I feel it cheapens the subject itself. For me to explain faith and God and why I am confident in the existence of God to someone I know won't change their mind is pointless. And while I am not adverse to having exchanges at times that are unlikely to produce anything productive, certain exchanges such as why God exists, in such circumstances, won't be among them. To preach of God to someone without the ears to hear is something I don't do

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#533198 May 12, 2013
mike wrote:
<quoted text>Wait!
This post would make sense if you leave a GOD out of it.
"Spirit" is a "mindset", the bible express many types of "spirits".
There is no GOD, otherwise prove it.
No need to. If you choose to believe there is no God, that is your choice. It is not for me to do. It is for me to share what God gives me to share or say or do. If I give what God has given me to give, say or do, the burden is not on me to prove. The buden is removed from me. It is shifted onto the person seeing or hearing, to recieve and believe or not. I have made my choice. I believe I am not perfect and because of that inperfection I can not be one with that which is perfect. God. I want to be perfect and one with him who is perfect. Because I/we can not make oursleves perfect. God has made a way. And there is no other way. That way is Jesus. He took all of our inperfection upon himself, coming to where we are, seperated from God. Seperated from God is the consequence of our inperfection. But Jesus, who knew no inperfection took our inperfection upon himself. But was not bound by our inperfection. Our in perfection was by our choice. Jesus never made that choice. So Jesus who never made that choice took the consequences of our choice upon himself so he could come to where we are, seperated. Not being bound by a choice of in perfection, Jesus was able to be reuntited with perfection, leaving our inperfection seperated. Because of that we now have a choice of leaving that seperation. By going the way God has provided, Jesus. We now, through Jesus can chose to be seperated from that seperation from God. We can choose to be seperated from those who choose to be seperated from God. We can choose to be saved from our own choice to be seperated from God. We can be forgiven. Get another chance. We can be born again through the spirit, in Christ Jesus.
No I don't choose to prove.
I choose to believe.

B-man
Bongo

Bronx, NY

#533199 May 12, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
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It was sarcasm.
Look it up in a dictionary.
And you are an "expert" at it, thou witty cod piece.
mike

AOL

#533200 May 12, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> You are so predictable.
Hello LAWEST100

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