Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#532739 May 11, 2013
hick-up wrote:
<quoted text>When one agrees folks have a pretty good idea where one stands, although folks still may wonder why. But when one disagrees, folks are sure to wonder why.<quoted text>Well ...there were.<quoted text>Why am I verbally judging the judgit clickers? Pls see # 1.<quoted text>I've been hungry.
Are you needing food Hick-up?

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#532740 May 11, 2013
high end wrote:
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No, your explanation does not cut it.
Again, first requirement:
The messiah MUST be a HUMAN from the lineage of David.
He IS not to be divine, he is NOT to be both god and man.
He must be totally HUMAN.
Why is it so hard for you christians to comprehend this? Why do you add and confuse things when its not there?
The requirement is very simple!
Give me Bible confirmation for that, I can prove the opposite but I am not going to waste too much time on this, those who are Christ's have the proof within themselves.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#532741 May 11, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
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Excellent, message for us all.
Thank you B-Man. Peace.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#532742 May 11, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
I know how to control my body. I've studied Wing Chun, ballet and gymnastics since I was old enough to walk.
I've never met a Thessalonian. Have you?
But do you know how to control it in Holiness and in Honor?
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532743 May 11, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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RE: the 4th time...
Don't even entertain the thoughts. Realize that you can mentally affect the physical condition. Especially over a long period of time...it can become part of the "core" of the system, and inseparable from it as a whole. ie: "willed subtle death"...so don't do it.
Ah, BT, thank you so much for your kind words and encouragement.
You are definitely 'good people'.

However, there sometimes comes a time when one >knows< to pack the bags and do the 'exodus thing'.
There is a major task that I am part of that requires minor and major players to solve.
I have a 6th sense that the gods will allow me to be part of it to the finish and if all goes well perhaps the Mesopotamian gods will let me stay on somewhat longer.

But, hey, I'm gonna have fun on here as long as I can...lol
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532744 May 11, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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The original? Hmmm...I don't know that there was any "hard" or complete in totality copy, but it appears that Moses was expert in it, and I believe that it was passed to Solomon. I can't find much after that though. If you look all the way back to Terah, it was "family tradition" so to speak. Even Abrum was mentored, although it is said he rejected it...
Hey, thanks for this info.
Perhaps I received my info from biased jews.
Shame on me...lol

I wasn't aware that Terah had knowledge of the kaballah. Can you elaborate further on this?
Thanks.
Doctor REALITY

Little Rock, AR

#532745 May 11, 2013
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/5825-is-non... The REALITY is that America probably shouldn't have to save muslim/islamic societies from themselves every time the tyranny of their godless leaders reaches it's zenith. But the REAL issue is that America, and every nation that knows they are ACCOUNTABLE TO ALMIGHTY GOD,'MUST' confront and overthrow the evil in our world. The evil that shows NO REGARD for the innocent. And many innocents around the world have no one else to turn to except the most powerful nations on earth that stand for the good of humanity! We know the destiny of evil, unrepentant criminals, and tyrants, when they give an account before the Lord on Judgement Day, but the Lord commands that the powers of righteousness confront and overthrow those in the world who have blindly aligned themselves with Satan the devil and his spiritual works! When will Russia convince themselves that it's in the best interest of their nation, the middle east, and the world,for them to distance themselves from the desperate tyrant of Syria??! So, yes, America should at least attack Assad's homes, installations, and strategic locations the way it attacked and flushed out Saddam. America, will Israel, Almighty God's chosen nation,have to go it alone?! they have PROVEN they are not afraid to confront Assad. Did America invade Afghanistan because it REALLY cared about the people of Afghanistan.....or was it only because America was steaming mad over September 11th,and because it only had it's own interests in mind?? If people suspect that it was the latter,prove the innocents of Syria wrong, America.
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532746 May 11, 2013
Uidiotracemakeworldpeace wrote:
<quoted text>go back to satanic hell hole ! Ypu biggest fool of them all, you our obnoxious US war mongers who hide behind religion of Xtain fundamentalism, that i don;t even what to associate with just like Bush & co been tried for war crimes agaisnt humanity, you not far off, sooner of later you will fall into hell hole... your own demise The world is waken up .
The rock is mount Everest that enjoy sight of! Enjoy your hell hole! WBHAHAHAHAHA
dr. Shrink, is this you??

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#532748 May 11, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I don't care if gays marry or not, it's irrelevant to me. I wouldn't promote it in any way NOR would I hinder it in any way. So stop with your judgemental, assumptive bullshit.
You reveal more of yourself than you apparently know. It's not hard to pass judgment on that comment. Watch: That was passive-aggressive mean spiritedness. And here's the rationale.

Are you really as indifferent as you think your words suggest?

I also don't care whether gays marry or not. But unlike you, I support the rights of gay couples to make that choice for themselves, meaning I favor law that supports that choice, and would speak out for and vote for such a law.

You're nothing like that. You won't help at all. I don't see indifference. I see mean spiritedness trying to pass as neutrality.

I would think that most people would either speak out or vote in favor of or against such a thing. Saying that you would do neither just doesn't ring as sincere.

That you don't see yourself this way in no way invalidates the opinion, nor makes it a guess or assumption. There is evidence for it.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#532749 May 11, 2013
Good day Khatru,
In all honesty I can't find much if anything here to argue with.
Khatru wrote:
Hi again. Yes, 26,000 is indeed, tens of thousands.
You make a valid point about how letting one person die from starvation being just as evil as letting 26,000 die.
Next time I'm faced with a believer who claims that Mao and Stalin were atheists who killed millions - I'll remind them that numbers are irrelevant and whether it's one or ten million - they are equally evil.
Religion or not appears to be irrelivant when applied to the killing scenerio. As I stated previously, it appears that humans enjoy committing genocide against it's own species. What to do?
Plenty, I'd say. Although thanks to the work of scientists we are managing to grow crops with chemical fertilisers thus feeding people where they would have died.
Science is most worthy of our respect. However strigent safeguards must be practiced. Here in Florida the use of fertilizers has had an adverse affect on our ecology in that the runoff has made it to our rivers and lakes where algie has flourished. This caused a signifigant drop in oxygen levels in water leading to not only fish kills, but also the aquatic vegitation. In effect it nearly killed many of our rivers and lakes. I'm refering to the wetlands that were not purposely drained to be converted into farmland. All this water eventually reaches the Atlantic and Gulf putting tremendous strain on our natural wildlife and seafood fisheries. Most of our coral is gone ...once home to a myriad of different species. Those that adapted and survived harbor unsafe levels of mercury and other toxins, making them hazardous to be consumed. This planet cannot, cannot, cannot survive without thriving oceans and supplies of fresh water.
Then there's Bob Geldof - a non believer who, according to the god of the Bible, is foolish, vile and abominable and does nothing of any good. Perhaps we should point this out to the millions of lives that Bob's actions helped to save.
The people who are helping out are just human beings - mere mortals who possess no magi powers.
Yet help they do. It takes great effort and often they have to fight the religious and superstitious when providing that help.
I am aware. Humans are resistant to change. It is what it is.
Then you have the god of the Bible. That omnipotent cosmic mega-being who can do absolutely anything. Nothing is too much trouble for him.
Except that is, for ending human suffering. He could provide enough food to end hunger, he could eradicate leukaemia, meningitis, cancer, etc - diseases that kill untold millions every year (including children). All this he could do with less effort than it takes you to blink.
Yet he fails to act.
Please forgive me in advance of what I am about to say.
Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be best for the earth as a whole if some type of plague or natural disaster were not to erradicate a large portion of the human population.
We use up our natural resources faster than they can be replaced. We waste to a level unprecedented. We mow down our forrests and jungles to create farmland ...and then we blanket the rich fertile soil with concrete and asphalt to accomidate suburban sprawl. It appears we can't win for losing.
Here For Now

Lenoir City, TN

#532750 May 11, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Drugs dont help they just mask the symptoms.........
Hey Rider,:)
True.
HFN
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532751 May 11, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Easy. The audience Paul was speaking to already knows of the virgin birth. All of Paul's writings were to churches. New churches that were started up by Peter and Paul, only about 2-5yrs after Jesus died. So everyone in those churches already knew about Jesus' death and resurrection and the virgin birth all of that. Why would Paul need to mention something that his audience already knew? if you just think a little bit writer you could come up with such a easy explanation yourself.
The audience knew about the VB and resurrection?
Not so!

paul mentions the resurrection ample of times but not once on the VB.

So why would Paul repeatedly talk about the resurrection and leave out the VB?
They both go hand in hand, yes?
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532752 May 11, 2013
Truths wrote:
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I am glad that you pulled through! Am I the other poster? <smile>
No...lol
I forgot who it was but the poster at times ended his lengthy post by sayin 'just ramblin on'.
:)
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532753 May 11, 2013
_-Alice-_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Mary had a little lamb;
it's fleece was white as snow.
Everywhere that Mary went,
the lamb was sure to go.
It followed her to school one day;
she tied it to the heater.
Every time it turned around,
it burnt it's little peter.
http://www.scoutscan.com/songs/m/msong017.htm...
lol

here's one for all:

mary had a little lamb, that's what she gets for sleeping in a barn.
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532754 May 11, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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You mentioned the Exodus.
Modern archaeological methods are showing that the origins of the Hebrew/Judaic culture have multiple cultural origins. It isn't "bible&spade" archaeology. They are looking at the evidence objectively, as archaeologists.
A quote from Israel Finkelstein, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Finkelste... the director of the Institute of Archaeology at Tel Aviv University:
"Today more than 90% of scholars agree that there was no Exodus from Egypt, 80% feel that that the Conquest of the Land did not take place as described in the Bible, and about 50% agree that there was no powerful United Monarchy." - Professor Israel Finkelstein, The Bible Unearthed.
Christian archaeologist, William Dever writes:
"The overwhelming archaeological evidence today of largely indigenous origins for early Israel leaves no room for an exodus from Egypt or a 40-year pilgrimage through the Sinai wilderness."
William G. Dever, American archaeologist, specializing in the history of Israel and the Near East in Biblical times. Former Director of the Harvard Semitic Museum-Hebrew Union College.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Dever
"This is what archaeologists have learned from their excavations in the Land of Israel: the Israelites were never in Egypt, did not wander in the desert, did not conquer the land in a military campaign and did not pass it on to the 12 tribes of Israel." Deconstructing the walls of Jericho - Ze'ev Herzog http://bit.ly/UJ7By <=.PDF
Ze’ev Herzog, Professor of archaeology at The Department of Archaeology and Ancient Near Eastern Cultures at Tel Aviv University specializing in social archaeology, ancient architecture and field archaeology.
"El was the chief god at Ugarit. Yet El is also the name of God used in many of the Psalms for Yahweh. Yet when one reads these Psalms and the Ugaritic texts one sees that the very attributes for which Yahweh is acclaimed are the same for which El is acclaimed. In fact, these Psalms were most likely originally Ugaritic or Phoenician hymns to El which were simply adopted by Israel" End quote
Smith, Mark S., The origins of biblical monotheism : Israel's polytheistic background and the Ugaritic texts
Mark Stratton, American professor and Biblical scholar who currently holds the Skirball Chair of Bible and Ancient Near Eastern Studies in the Department of Hebrew and Judaic Studies at New York University.
"In the case of the Hebrews, the cult of Yah, or Yahu, or Yahweh, was simply a local worship sometimes aggrandised by the King, adopted and documentally imposed on the fictitious history of the nation long afterwards." M. Lang, Making of Religion, pp. 190-8.
I could list name after name after name of well educated, highly respected and competent scholars/archaeologists that are not following personal agendas. They are there to perform competent work.
They are considered to be at the top of their respective fields and perform actual scientific research. They attempt to legitimize the efforts of archaeology and other areas concerning the bible. They are not there to lie and discredit themselves.
They aren't "covering evidence up".
They're unearthing evidence that the parent religion, Judaism and its children religions are religions like any other, IE: Taken from a previously existing cultures mythological beliefs, adapted and embellished upon to fit the culture they evolve to support, and presented as truth.
When in fact, those "truths" are myth, with the origins of that myth taken from various other myths, and said to be their own in the final result.
ABRAHAMIC religions: "ripping off other religions since...well, SINCE WE CAN!"
Dam...this stuff is good.
Thanks.
Keep on ramblin on
:)

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#532755 May 11, 2013
Here For Now wrote:
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Are you needing food Hick-up?
Are you asking me out on a date?
~snicker~

Presently no, thank you. That was the past I was referring too. And it was my own fault ...wine, women, song; but I outgrew those days.

But the direction this country and this world is headed ...who knows what the future holds.

Thank you for thinking of me.
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#532756 May 11, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supraventricular...
http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/supraventricular...
<quoted text>
Your belief is as valid as any Christian's. It has as much evidentiary support.
Perhaps.
My pov was that miracles are not one sided.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#532757 May 11, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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Oh - good song!

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#532758 May 11, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
Some poster a time back brought up the KKK. No shock not a word about the Christians of the day that made a stand against that evil at a great cost.
It doesn't matter to the rest of us if a few of you are better than the majority. We care about how the majority behave. That's what we see, and what affects us.

The Klan was a Christian terrorist organization. Wherever it flourished, the majority of influential Christians in the region supported them.

Do you want us to respect Christianity because a few of you transcend it?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#532759 May 11, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
We are very close to the Lord's return when confessed Christians don't think twice about looking the other way concerning sin.
You have been "looking the other way concerning sin" since at least the days of the Third Reich. That's what people like Happy Lesbo and I have been commenting on.

And Christians have been agitating people with that end times nonsense since Old Testament days when the Christians were promised that the end would come before their generation

In Mark 13, Jesus is said to have referred to of a tribulation wherein nation would rise against nation, false prophets would appear, earthquakes would appear, and the stars would fall from the sky. Then, Jesus allegedly said that he would return "in the clouds with great power and glory" and "that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done."

They were trying to agitate people with that end of the world stuff 2000 years ago, and you still are today. You personally are now.

Incidentally, that scripture counts as a failed prophecy and an unkept promise, like your fruits of the spirit that never materialized. Where were your patience, peace, kindness, gentility and self-control? I'd be in hell now if your command had power.

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