Why Should Jesus Love Me?

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#532182 May 10, 2013
ians...so you made a sincere oath to the god apollo? Yeah right! And keep trying to twist and lie. You never would have said what you said to me to a pollio sufferer. You simply know you showed your professional and personal ignorance and now you need a way out. whether you want to call it a "value judgement" or be honest and admit you meant calling me weak as an insult, the bottom line is you claim to be a doctor that would insult someone he admits has a disease and call them weak. then again you didnt know till I taught you that it is a physical addiction as well. I dont think you were a doctor or a Christian

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Fennario

#532183 May 10, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
You think addiction isn't physical? Especially opiate addiction which we were specifically talking about?
You're an unteachable moron, aren't you, Dimwit? How many times do you need to read the same material before you understand it. Let's try a third time:

Let's try this one more time, Dimwit. From
http://addictionscience.net/b2evolution/blog1...

"The terms drug dependence and drug addiction are often used interchangeably, but this practice ... contributes to misunderstanding the underlying causes of substance use.

"[D]rug addiction refers to a behavioral syndrome where the procurement and use of a drug seem to dominate the individual's motivation and where the normal constraints on the individual's behavior seem largely ineffective. Inherent in this definition is the overwhelmingly powerful motivation to obtain and self-administer the drug.

"Drug dependence ... refers to a state where the individual is dependent upon the drug for normal physiological functioning. Abstinence from the drug produces withdrawal reactions which constitute the only evidence for dependence."
Skombolis wrote:
It was one thing for you not to know Ritalin has the adverse affect on adults
This is more of your lying filth.
Skombolis wrote:
It was one thing to claim you gave ten percent of your money to a church where you knew the priest was stealing the money for himself
Once again, maggot, your words, not mine.
Skombolis wrote:
But for a "doctor" not to know opiate addiction is both physical and mental? WOW.
The words are physiological and psychological. Addiction of any kind, including to shopping or sex, is psychological.

Dependence is the physiological aspect. And tolerance.

Why don't you focus on the being the addict and the felon part, and leave the rest to the professionals?

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Since: Nov 08

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#532185 May 10, 2013
I don't know why this link won't copy properly:

http://addictionscience.net/b2evolution/blog1...

If the above fails again, anybody interested in reading the original should Google a phrase from the quoted section above and find the source themselves.

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Since: Nov 08

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#532186 May 10, 2013
The link works if you remove the http:// at the beginning, which I believe the Topix software is adding.

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#532188 May 10, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Ahhh.........gone for some trime and returns with the same mindless circular looped insanity, nothing ever changes with some people, tsk tsk tsk.
TIME..........not trime, lol.

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#532189 May 10, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>Not me that clueless, you jugheads and meatheads are ones ignorant... Know anything about PNAC agenda, Leo Struassian Philosophy, US hegemony, US global macroeconomic wars,... know what i talking about war mongering grunts? You ignorant ones really are ones living in la la land hollywood Soap box land!
Say!
Yer not one o' them conspiracy fellas are ya?

Don't ya worry yer lil' heart none on it.

We got's spaceships right outside yer atmosphere ta stop any more of them "Klingon" attacks.

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#532191 May 10, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
But thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:57
Nay in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.
Romans 8:37
"It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell."

~ Buddha

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#532193 May 10, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> Sorry , not anywhere near a farm! And take BS and eat it!
here some real pooper for you! Enjoy sucker! this is what our US (faux) democracy / christain fundie nation represent! Evil to core.
"Condelleza Rice and Colin Powell are both dangerous people. What they did in Haiti [2004 U.S.-backed coup that ousted democratically elected President Jean-Bertrand Aristide] is a good measure of it. They destroyed a democracy. They squelched loans that had been approved by the Inter-American Development Bank. They did everything behind the scenes, including arming the thugs that came to overrun the country. They're frauds."
Randall Robinson
Why, contaminated rice and olden plows could really be dangerous.
It's dangerous for you not to take yer meds too!

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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#532194 May 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Which Christian church? Why do you assume there's only one? What church? I've told you a hundred times that I don't have one.
And I've tried to teach this to several of those times [prepares to roll the boulder up the hill yet again]:

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Church

"The term Christian Church as a proper noun refers to the whole Christian religious tradition through history. When used in this way, the term does not refer to a particular "Christian church" (a "denomination" or to a building). However, some Christian groups do not accept this definition (e.g., the Roman Catholic Church, the Oriental Orthodox churches, and the Eastern Orthodox churches) instead considering only their own churches to be the one true church."

That church.

Here are some Christians to explain it to you:

From Christian Mary Fairchild
http://christianity.about.com/od/churchandcom...

From Christian Matt Slick at the Christian Apologetics & Research Ministry
http://carm.org/what-the-christian-church

Although perhaps not you, hopefully, some of the Christians present can learn this term.

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#532195 May 10, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
And they overcame him by the blood of the lamb,and by the word of their testimony;and they loved not their lives unto death.
Revelation 12:11
"Only in art will the lion lie down with the lamb, and the rose grow without thorn."

~ Martin Amis

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#532196 May 10, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
He that overcometh and keepeth My works unto the end to him will I give power over the nations.
Revelation 2:26
"The most authentic thing about us is our capacity to create, to overcome, to endure, to transform, to love and to be greater than our suffering."

~ Ben Okri

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#532200 May 10, 2013
UidiotRaceMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text>You US monsonto is contaminators read previous post about this!~ And sorry don't need meds but i say you on drugs for sure , black thunder the druggie!
You have delusions of Clairvoyance too huh?

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#532201 May 10, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
OPIATE ADDICTION
"Opiate Dependency is a PHYSICAL illness involving a central nervous system disorder caused by long-term opiate intake."

"Opiate addiction is recognized as a central nervous system disorder, caused by continuous opiate intake.

After prolonged opiate use, the nerve cells in the brain, which would otherwise produce endogenous opiates (natural painkillers, or endorphins), cease to function normally. The body stops producing endorphins because it is receiving opiates instead. The degeneration of these nerve cells causes a physical dependency to an external supply of opiates. Abrupt or sudden abstinence from opiates induces yet another traumatic disorder - withdrawal syndrome."
http://www.opiates.com/opiate-addiction.html
Dependency is not addiction.

"Opiate addiction is recognized as a central nervous system disorder, caused by continuous opiate intake."

This is ambiguous and incorrect.

The incorrect part: Dependence and tolerance are caused by drug use, not addiction. The addictive personality precedes them, and persists after dependence has ended following withdrawal.

The ambiguous part: Both brain physiology and psychology are central nervous system phenomena, but only one is physiological. One refers to the function of neurons and neurotransmitters, and to the levels of metabolic enzymes in the neuronal cytoplasm. The other refers to the mind and behavior. The two are as almost as far from one another today as they were when Descartes described them almost four centuries ago. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism_%28phil... :

"In philosophy of mind, dualism is the assumption that mental phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical, or that the mind and body are not identical [...] Dualism is closely associated with the philosophy of René Descartes"

You should read more.

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Since: Nov 08

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#532204 May 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
OMG.... Do you know of any Christians that think Bush was anointed by God???
Not literally, as with oil, but chosen by their god. I knew plenty of such people, and I'll bet you did, too. Weren't you one that believed that?

Bush claimed that he felt his god calling him:

"I feel like God wants me to run for President. I can't explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen... I know it won't be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

How many times do you think something like this was thought, spoken, or written?:

"I have been rejoicing since Bush's (the good Lord aboves Win!) victory. He is a family and moral man and believes in the sanctity of marriage, honesty, anti-choice/pro life. He is going back to the beliefs of our founding fathers of the U.S.A. Of course since God is with Bush the world hates him because they don't want to turn to the bible and away from their vile-sinful lifestyles that are abominable to God."
http://rense.com/general59/godse.htm

And who can blame him given this from http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politics/2004/1... :

"On the day after President Bush was re-elected, he gave much of the credit to his political adviser, Karl Rove, whom he called "the architect" of his campaign. But in evangelical churches, on Christian radio, and in voter precincts dominated by conservative Christians, the credit is going instead to someone a whole lot more powerful: God. The Almighty intervened in the U.S. election, these evangelicals believe, to allow Bush to remain president."

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Since: Nov 08

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#532205 May 10, 2013
Khatru wrote:
A nation of secularists or a nation of believers? When it comes to rabble-rousing and war, you can pretty much count on the believers.
If war is your goal, appeal to the Christians. They'll support you, and call it celebrating freedom.
Khatru wrote:
Toby Keith was a new name for me so I googled him. I'm glad he's over there and not over here.
Toby Keith. LOL. American culture near its worst.

Here's a spoof of such überpatriotic and effusively religious country singers from MAD TV

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Since: Nov 08

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#532206 May 10, 2013
Khatru wrote:
Try looking up "Host Desecration" if you want a laugh at further Christian stupidity and ignorance. We all know the cannibalistic side to those Christians who genuinely believed that the crackers they would eat transformed into the body of Jesus. Such was the level of Christian insanity that they believed the Jews would want to torture these crackers in an attempt to hurt the body of Christ.
Torture crackers? Such is the glory of faith based thinking.
Khatru wrote:
No wonder Hitler targeted the Jews. He was simply taking the hatred and murderous intolerance of the Christian Church to new levels of insanity.
“Religion. It’s given hope in a world torn apart by religion.”– Jon Stewart

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#532207 May 10, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Dependency is not addiction.
"Opiate addiction is recognized as a central nervous system disorder, caused by continuous opiate intake."
This is ambiguous and incorrect.
The incorrect part: Dependence and tolerance are caused by drug use, not addiction. The addictive personality precedes them, and persists after dependence has ended following withdrawal.
The ambiguous part: Both brain physiology and psychology are central nervous system phenomena, but only one is physiological. One refers to the function of neurons and neurotransmitters, and to the levels of metabolic enzymes in the neuronal cytoplasm. The other refers to the mind and behavior. The two are as almost as far from one another today as they were when Descartes described them almost four centuries ago. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dualism_%28phil... :
"In philosophy of mind, dualism is the assumption that mental phenomena are, in some respects, non-physical, or that the mind and body are not identical [...] Dualism is closely associated with the philosophy of René Descartes"
You should read more.
I've been dealt a lot of opiates since my leg was crushed by an errant Ford. I don't need them anymore but I might like to discuss the physiological and psychological aspects of the necessity of such drugs in the future. I'm still pondering.

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Since: Nov 08

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#532208 May 10, 2013
Ashelah wrote:
As I read here, this comes to mind;
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2j1hcMTl21...
Good one, Juice.

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Since: Nov 08

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#532209 May 10, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Toby Keith did a lot for our troops. He lifted their spirits and strengthened all of our American pride.
Your American pride was part of the problem. We needed you to be rational, thoughtful, and compassionate, not jingoistic. That kind of patriotism is a problem.

Here's a post from 2011, which happens to also mention Toby Keith :

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Patriotism is just another religion, but without the deity. It’s jam-packed with just as much symbolism (flags, eagles and Uncle Sam vs Jesus fish and the cross), myths (cherry tree chopping and log splitting presidents instead of babes in the floating in the reeds and virgin births), patriarchs (Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, or Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln), precious documents (original parchments for each), and more.

You’ve got manifest destiny and American exceptionalism for the one vs. original sin and the chosen people for the other. The in-group are patriots vs. the faithful, and outsiders are traitors or infidels.“Communism and socialism are my enemy” vs.“Islam is my enemy” Patriotic duty vs. righteousness. They payed the ultimate price by dying for your rights vs. he showed ultimate love and died for your sins. The parallels are too many to ignore.

Zealous patriotism is just as dangerous as religious zealotry. It's all tribalism, and both exist to make you feel like you're part of something greater than yourself, something that is righteous and worth paying taxes/tithes for and sacrificing unto death for (martyring and holy war). They both exist to convince you to underwrite and die for somebody else's agenda.

Naturally, the same people duped by religion are the ones most easily duped by patriotic demagoguery. Think Iraq and 911. Think Toby Keith concerts with their flag waving, Jesus praising and liberal atheist baiting, all for God and country. God bless America!

Same bullshit, new day.

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#532210 May 10, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. then, explain why drones are killing 10 civilians for each enemy combatant ..
http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-lis...
Do you have any doubt what the Christian response to this will be, if any?

You care. It probably breaks your heart to read.

But don't look for much compassion from the "moral majority." They're simply not trained to think that way.

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