Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#531873 May 9, 2013
Skombolis wrote:
Nah, most people whether they believe in God or not try to do the right thing simply because it is the right thing
Disagree. I just saw this minutes ago:

nurface wrote: "Where is it you get your "compassion" from? I means since you claim there is no God, how can you say there is any "good or bad" "right or wrong" in anybody?"

And he wrote it immediately after reading this, confirming its implication:

IANS: "We already know why most of you don't go wilding and berserking. The answer is related to the fact that you have no idea why we don't."

I see this quite frequently, which is why I was able to predict it.
Skombolis wrote:
You can't relate to leaning on someone else for strength because you don't have it in you to trust or love other people more than you do yourself. You certainly would never leave something as important as your fate in the hands of another.
You seem to count self-reliance as a fault, and dependency the opposite. I don't need much help from anybody for strength. All I ask of them is to be kind, and either interesting, funny, or both.

And I doubt that you know anything about love, either.

Since: Jan 11

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#531874 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Ah...
So "people are born straight" is just as ridiculous as "people are born gay".
Thanks.
Now go tell your friends.
Both of those claims are currently untestable.

I didn't say they were ridiculous. People may be born with a stronger inclination towards one sex or another, but as soon as they have life experience, that life experience becomes an inexorable factor. Sexual orientation is probably decided, in the vast majority of cases, prior to the time when a person feels any sexual attraction at all.

Your claim, that homosexuality is a choice, is ridiculous.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#531875 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yup. We were enjoying our freedom and celebrating the fact that our beloved troops were risking their lives to give freedom to the Iraqis.
Problem?
.. too bad the 112,329 to 122,886 civilians who lost their lives can't celebrate that freedom ..

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

.. if you happen to come across a Muslim woman cradling her dead child in her arms, what do you say to her ??..

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#531876 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Really? You call that detective work? HA!
You must've missed this part:
"others who did not belong to the "Aryan race"...and religious dissidents, i.e. members of Jehovah's Witnesses"
But Christians here say JWs and Mormons aren't Christians.

So now they are.

When did God change his mind ?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531877 May 9, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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By Nazis? Yes.
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No. America doesn't condone or practice religious persecution.
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.. do we dare compare the response of WW II era German Christians with today's generation of American Christians ??..
.. as of two months ago, U.S. drone attacks have killed 22 terrorists; unfortunately, 800 innocent civilians also lost their lives, you know, collateral damage. Many were children ..
http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-lis...
.. I'm not hearing much of a public outcry from our Christian nation ..
.. did German Christians even care about the senseless killing of gypsies, gays, JW's or Jews? Do American Christians even care about the senseless killing of Muslim children ??..
SPECIAL REQUEST
If you respond to this post, please compare the American Christian response with that of the German citizens during Hitler's reign of terror. This is not about 'left'-vs-'right' but, about the morality of the American Christian response to the senseless murder of innocents.
Americans sacrificed a lot for the war effort in WWII. Everything, every resource we had went to the war effort first, civilians second. We have everything we had to save the people of Europe from the Nazis.

Death is a part of war. Sometimes innocent people get killed, too. America isn't in the business of murdering innocents. We try our damnedest to only kill combatant targets, that doesn't always work.

Look at how many innocents had to die in Japan in WWII just to get the Empire to surrender and stop fighting.

Additionally, why are you pinpointing Christians when you ask about death in war?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531878 May 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Good post. You've hit the nail on the head. And not surprisingly, it is an unbeliever - you - objecting.
You may get a little lip service out of the Christians if you've embarrassed them enough with this,
But clearly, as a collective, they care much less than unbelievers about such matters, which supports my point that if a Western demagogue wants to manufacture support for a genocide or any other moral horror, he can't do better than to have an overwhelmingly Christians nation to work with. They may mouth the word "love" a lot, but that kind of "love" is worthless.
These are people that are raised to think that anything authority commands is moral as long as they trust the authority, and they trust almost anybody that claims to be a Christian or carries a bible - like Hitler and Bush.
And what difference does it make what people like Hitler and Bush really believe about Jesus? What matters is what their audiences believed. The Christians believed that they were anointed by their god in their holy struggles.
OMG.... Do you know of any Christians that think Bush was anointed by God???

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#531879 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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The USA has never done anything like Hitler did, moron.
.. yes, we have ..

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531880 May 9, 2013
Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Wonder if its our tax dollars at work?
LOL

I hope not.

Since: Apr 08

Watford, UK

#531881 May 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Good point. I'll tell you where the Christians were. Toby Keith concerts, waving flags, calling for their god to bless America and her troops, and jeering liberal activists like Sean Penn, Susan Sarandon, and The Dixie Chicks.
Not surprisingly, the Christians were moral putty.
And that, of course, was the original point. If you want to demagogue a people in the West, you really can't do better than have a Christian nation. Imagine a nation like the secularists posting here recently. Which of us would you expect would be led around like that or cheer war?
A nation of secularists or a nation of believers? When it comes to rabble-rousing and war, you can pretty much count on the believers.

Toby Keith was a new name for me so I googled him. I'm glad he's over there and not over here.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531882 May 9, 2013
Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>Somebody should tell my wife, lol. Nah skip that. A bigoted person told me she can't live as she does. It's been almost 15 years so I'm thinking a person can change the path they are on, thank God.
Yes, sexual preferences and orientations can change.

This is why we get "gay" people that have been married and have kids, then after 25 years of a heterosexual marriage, sex and lifestyle, they are all of a sudden "always been gay"....

Whatever.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#531883 May 9, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. too bad the 112,329 to 122,886 civilians who lost their lives can't celebrate that freedom ..
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
.. if you happen to come across a Muslim woman cradling her dead child in her arms, what do you say to her ??..
"Your baby is burning in Hell, you demon of Satan!"

Just a guess

Since: Jan 11

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#531884 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
People are not born gay.
Debunk that, freethinker.
The claim is unfalsifiable, RR.

Do you know what that means?

I don't have to debunk it. It's defunct.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531885 May 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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When did you choose not to be gay ?
Never did, I was born straight.

Are you gonna prove me wrong or just keep tap dancing?

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#531886 May 9, 2013
hick-up wrote:
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But Lucy ...all you did was run away.
Why are you insulting me? He may read a lot like one of my brothers but to think he is me? I'm off to cry in a corner now... Unless you meant some other Luci, in which case, many apologies :)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531887 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because they know "husband & wife" is normal and they're pretending to be.
Ashelah wrote:
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That's a tad harsh don't you think?
Yes. The truth hurts sometimes.

I firmly believe in "No honey, the dress doesn't make you look fat, you just are fat." mentality.

Oh well.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#531888 May 9, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
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.. yes, we have ..
The history of the USA is as full of attrocities as Hitler and Christianity.

Like the Genocide of the Native Americans which continued non-stop as a government sanctioned doctrine until 1890. After 1890 they were forced into concentration camps instead of murdering them wholesale.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531890 May 9, 2013
Lacez wrote:

By voting against marriage equality or saying that you would vote against it, you are trying to deny people rights.
When have I done that? Why do you insinuate that I have?

I really don't give a shit if gays get married.
Even if homosexuality was a choice, religion is definitely a choice; why do you think that gives you the right to try and deny people their rights?
I haven't tried to deny anyone any rights, so I CAN'T answer that question.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#531891 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Because they know "husband & wife" is normal and they're pretending to be.
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Yes. The truth hurts sometimes.
I firmly believe in "No honey, the dress doesn't make you look fat, you just are fat." mentality.
Oh well.
I see.. do women hit you with chairs a lot?

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#531892 May 9, 2013
Lacez wrote:

The fact that gay people exist, the fact that it is seen across most species in nature as well, proves you wrong. For if we were all born straight, we'd all be straight.


Not so. We are all (for the most part) born alive. Some people choose to stop living. Of we're all born alive, we'd all have to stay alive (not commit suicide).
You invalidate your own claims.


Says you.
Can YOU choose to be attracted to the same sex right now?
Yes, anyone can. I choose not to. You choose to.
Can YOU fall in love with another of the same sex at this exact moment?
No. Neither can you. Falling in love takes time, often a long time.
No? Then you can't choose to be gay.
Yes? Well congratulations, you are bisexual.
You're pitifully trying to insult me. It isn't working.

Since: Sep 10

United States

#531893 May 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Cool. What is it ?
The most fun I had was with my X1/9 fiats, they were like a 'half-pint' Ferrari. LOL
I only have the Vette and a Z-28 now. Looking at an old Harley (raked bobber) for this summer.
Bucket list is getting shorter. <smile>
Datsun roadster. Completely restored to showroom condition.

Others are 6-series BMW and Mustang GT.

Years ago I had a Fiat 124 Spider.

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