Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#531772 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I read someone telling IANS to make his own group, the IANSettes, so that hell be able to use "we" better. Lol
You and the Dimwit really don't like that, do you? It's not in your best interest that we identify with one another as a group with common goals, is it?

A few of you also work diligently to try to keep any two of us from supporting one another, even as you high five one another with an "Amen, brother".

How's that working out for you?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Here, it's spelled "hypocrite" (just in case).
Thanks.

You're a hypocrite, brother.

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

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#531774 May 9, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
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This is why I say that I might be naive...it is also why I seldom communicate with you.
I defended your right to not have to worship in private...compared it to wanting to keep gays in the closet. Yet you come back with me with this crap.
It is just like you whining that no one stood up when things were said about your children...you totally dismissed that I had.
Your need for persecution points out weighs your reading comprehension.
please forgive me if i missed something. i rush through these threads and admittedly don't take the time to go through comments in detail. be that as it may, i wasn't chiding you (this time), but was only trying to point out something that you may not know:)

btw - when did we ever discuss my children?

Since: Jun 12

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#531775 May 9, 2013
Because he's Jesus.

Since: Jun 12

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#531776 May 9, 2013
Oh, is there a reason Jesus shouldn't love you?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#531777 May 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Why do suppose that there is so much of anti-Christian sentiment? There are really two leading candidate hypotheses: your church is repulsive to huge numbers of people, or it is blameless, and a magical demon is at work.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
What church? I've told you a hundred times that I don't have one.
The Christian church.

Anyway, you must have inadvertently diverted the discussion and in doing so, unwittingly evaded answering the question. I don't feel like rolling this boulder up hill for you any more, so I'll just answer it for you:

Your church is despised because people apparently find it despicable, and the world contains no more devils in it than it does vampires.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#531778 May 9, 2013
high end wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, you certainly have a powerful view on this and should be commended for keeping your family together.
Kudos to you.
I know many christians, especially fundamentalist baptists and have engaged in discussions with them about their god.
I used to be one.
What changed my pov was knowing that the bible is not the primary source of creation and other events recorded in that tome.
Knowing that other cultures had access to this material set a huge ? for me.
What seems to be obvious is that the god of the bible was introduced much later in the scheme of the godhead pantheon, and only, for a certain group of people.
And this group's messiah is still pending.
((((((HighEnd)))))))

If we read the New Testement- it can not ring true if we are biased against the possibility of there being -The God-

If we trust in what MAN has made of religion with their misspoken paragraphs and chapters in their own version of god and lack of--- books.....

-then we are trusting mere humans ... humans- which we all know are motivated by profit and self glory. They are looking for a return, at the cost of more THAN JUST cash to their readers.

Where as if we trust that God made man and set in place a plan to draw us closer----- we see that He did it not for profit or out of selfishness---- but out of the opportunity to give us something for free.

His word has been passed along to each generation- each society in all countries KNOW that a "God" exists- but humans twist it and use it as a weapon- instead of as a track toward knowing His mercy and grace.... people give up on the belief due to the wrong doing of....

us mere humans-
who have misrepresented Him in so many ways.

When His intent was to give us guidelines in which to protect us from eachother....
and

ourselves.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#531779 May 9, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Responsibility is a judgment call and will vary with ethical systems. But saying that McDonalds is a significant contributing factor is not. Likewise with cigarette manufacturers. Blame whomever you like. But to deal with the problem effectively, all causative factors must be addressed.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
Meaning what? Force McDonald's to serve healthier food? I'm sure your commie brain loves that idea
So you answer my question for me and then call me a Commie based on it?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
but have you ever considered that nobody is for Ed to eat there?
Why would I care where Ed eats?

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#531780 May 9, 2013
Truths wrote:
I have not read your posts long enough to know what your beliefs are- but I DO appreciate the tone and content of your posts
(((((High end))))))
I only know that Jesus IS who the NT says He is- as I feel as if I have met Him- and I know what I have experienced during my journey. No human being could have done the miracles which I have witnessed- and If it was SOME other god answering my prayer....
-why WOULD it answer my prayers which have been prayed to the God of the bible and His Son?
If what I say is pretend- WHY would I and so many others put ourselves out here for a verbal or physical beating ?
high end wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks. I'll respond tomorrow, ciao
:)
Looking forward to continueing the discussin (c:

Since: Dec 12

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#531781 May 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
What kind of pitiful deity requires human interaction for its own well being ?
A human one?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#531782 May 9, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
None were killed for being Christians, based on your own source:

"In addition to Jews, the targeted groups included Poles (of whom 2.5 million gentile Poles were killed) and some other Slavic peoples; Soviets (particularly prisoners of war); Romanies (also known as Gypsies) and others who did not belong to the "Aryan race"; the mentally ill, the deaf, the physically disabled and mentally retarded; homosexual and transsexual people; political opponents such as social democrats and socialists; and religious dissidents, i.e. members of Jehovah's Witnesses."

Try again.
Nice detective work.

“MEET KIKI -She Seeks Home”

Since: Oct 10

With Established Harem

#531783 May 9, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
By Nazis? Yes.
<quoted text>
No. America doesn't condone or practice religious persecution.
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong, the were imprisoned and killed for a variety of reasons, NOT because they were Christians.
So Hitler imprisoning and killing people who happened to be Christian was persecution, but USA doing the same thing isn't persecution.
Sometimes you make sense RR, sometimes you don't. This time you don't.
The blood of 6 million Jews is still on Christianity's hands.
All your apologetics won't wash it away.
.. do we dare compare the response of WW II era German Christians with today's generation of American Christians ??..

.. as of two months ago, U.S. drone attacks have killed 22 terrorists; unfortunately, 800 innocent civilians also lost their lives, you know, collateral damage. Many were children ..

http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-lis...

.. I'm not hearing much of a public outcry from our Christian nation ..

.. did German Christians even care about the senseless killing of gypsies, gays, JW's or Jews? Do American Christians even care about the senseless killing of Muslim children ??..

SPECIAL REQUEST

If you respond to this post, please compare the American Christian response with that of the German citizens during Hitler's reign of terror. This is not about 'left'-vs-'right' but, about the morality of the American Christian response to the senseless murder of innocents.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#531784 May 9, 2013
high end wrote:
<quoted text>Read comment #531418 from the previous page that was posted by BT42.
The Jesus of the bible did >not< fulfill these requirements.
Though I believed LONG before knowing anything about prophecies of the OT and NT being in existance...here is a common list of some othe the prophecies which were fullfilled~

I don't write these to convince you <blush> As you and others will believe of not- based on what is heard in your own hearts- BUT this is PRETTY COOL (c:

http://christianity.about.com/od/biblefactsan...

and another source
http://www.jesuscentral.com/ja/jesus-propheci...

You see..... you can find info on both sides- but if your focus is only to the negative...that is all you will google.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#531785 May 9, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good evening Bro. he is so desperately in search of a platform that he'll ramble on if for no other reason than to enjoy the sound of his own voice, while constantly making a fool of himself in the process.
and then when you realised this- You prayed for him to find God's peace?

((((((Scott))))))))

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#531786 May 9, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Says the one who started the attempts at petty insults.
Again, very Christian of you.
Thank you.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#531787 May 9, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
More vile comments from a vile being.
Thank you again.

“Jesus is coming soon”

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#531788 May 9, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>
and then when you realised this- You prayed for him to find God's peace?
((((((Scott))))))))
>>>>>Deb< <<<<

I realized it and seen many of them coming long before they got here and started up my friend, and I pray for God's mercy upon them often before they exit this life, and not for them only but also for those of us who believe, but the buck doesn't stop with our walk IN Christ, we need Jesus every hour of everyday.

:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ7R4O Iqhy8

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#531789 May 9, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> >>>>>Deb< <<<<
I realized it and seen many of them coming long before they got here and started up my friend, and I pray for God's mercy upon them often before they exit this life, and not for them only but also for those of us who believe, but the buck doesn't stop with our walk IN Christ, we need Jesus every hour of everyday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WZ7R4OIqhy8httpXX://www.youtu be.com/watch?v=WZ7R4OIqhy8
Amen (c:

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#531790 May 9, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Proof that your education level is so low it doesn't warrant me taking you seriously:
-You add ellipses like a teenaged girl, instead of the average 3, you put 10
-You said "some time" as one word
-You want to try and tell others that Bush was a great president
Yup, you are one deluded and crazy little man.
Just as I thought..........Stay ignorant, it suits you.........

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#531791 May 9, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I told you once before:
I don't suffer fools.
You want to be stupid?
Go it alone.
Yet your a defense lawyer..........

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#531792 May 9, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. do we dare compare the response of WW II era German Christians with today's generation of American Christians ??..

.. as of two months ago, U.S. drone attacks have killed 22 terrorists; unfortunately, 800 innocent civilians also lost their lives, you know, collateral damage. Many were children ..
http://www.policymic.com/articles/24164/a-lis...

.. I'm not hearing much of a public outcry from our Christian nation ..

.. did German Christians even care about the senseless killing of gypsies, gays, JW's or Jews? Do American Christians even care about the senseless killing of Muslim children ??..
SPECIAL REQUEST
Good post. You've hit the nail on the head. And not surprisingly, it is an unbeliever - you - objecting.

You may get a little lip service out of the Christians if you've embarrassed them enough with this,

But clearly, as a collective, they care much less than unbelievers about such matters, which supports my point that if a Western demagogue wants to manufacture support for a genocide or any other moral horror, he can't do better than to have an overwhelmingly Christians nation to work with. They may mouth the word "love" a lot, but that kind of "love" is worthless.

These are people that are raised to think that anything authority commands is moral as long as they trust the authority, and they trust almost anybody that claims to be a Christian or carries a bible - like Hitler and Bush.

And what difference does it make what people like Hitler and Bush really believe about Jesus? What matters is what their audiences believed. The Christians believed that they were anointed by their god in their holy struggles.

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