Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“BE BRAVE ENOUGH ”

Since: Oct 09

TO STEP IN MUD PUDDLES

#529146 May 3, 2013
high end wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that it??
No response on the important issues that I've posted?
Ok, then.
You're dismissed.
Okay...so I am dismissed...I'm okay with that.

I tend not to respond to important issues or even unimportant issues when someone wants to limit my response to a short answer.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#529147 May 3, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
<quoted text>
.. towards the end, Hitler's Gods were drugs. He probably considered himself the Messiah and died a martyr's death. Either that or he feared humiliation and torture under Stalin's hand and was a coward ..
I agree. and the real control was in the hands of the party elite, who controlled the information going in and out of the fortress. Hitler probably never even knew of the operative deals such as "paperclip" and others, nor the impending defeat until the very last hours. It wouldn't surprise me if he were purposely fed the drugs over time in an effort to render him useless and ineffective in plans of a coup at a certain point-leaving the "inner circle" in charge of Europe, and possibly the world. They had already "spiderwebed" the world in intelligence and contacts.
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#529148 May 3, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
They (the Caananites)even tried several weird ritualistic things when it came on to perverting their beliefs such as marrying El with other deities. Long after Moses left Egypt and eventually saw their army of fighting men swell to more capable numbers after Moses was forbidden to enter into Caanan, Joshua had two routes into the land. The direct route which meant going up against the Moabites and their formidable armies that included chariots, something the Israelites were not furnished with and heavily fortified cities. Or, go the longer route through the Amorites and their less organized, smaller armies and smaller cities which were more like townships than anything else. Yes, the tactics were ruthlessly bloody generally Egyptian military tactics, weapons and formations used by the Israelites with heavy and ligh infantry and archers absent chariots.
Now usually, the Israelite armies were broken up into more covert tactical forces, that were far more mobile and better at hit and run tactics leaving the heavy infantry to do the more brutal mop-up work. Now much of the reasoning behind killing women and children were not known, but seeing that bit of history through a military perspective, you would certainly understand that what Israel eventually did was to drastically reduce the number of enemies Israel would have to deal with in the future. They were not designed nor ordered to be an Empire such as the Greco-Macedonians, so Israels aim was not to become a dynatic power over several foreign people. Strategically, Israel eventually positioned themselves where they would not be a land locked nation. they would eventually come to have a capable navy and terrain facing Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt that gave them a military advantage geographically even against overwhelming odds. You can ignore this if you prefer.
:)
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He is a being of perfection and the Almighty One. He is fully capable of both creation and ruin. He however chose to be merciful and unfortunately sometimes His way or mercy is to release you from your misery and offensive existence in an ugly fashion. He is above good and bad, he is Right always whether or not you think His methods horrific. We have unleashed sin upon ourselves, and all we can do is fall to His command and guidance in order to see ourselves through, because being outside of it, may cause us to drink from is cup of wrath and vengeance.
<quoted text>
Your end statement only confirms why discussions with you are pointless. Sad, but quite possibly true.
CS.
Herro.
I'd like to address you on an issue that you have written. You state that Moses left Egypt to venture to the land of canaan aka the promised land. Would you please specify the timeline of the exodus of the Hebrews into the land of the milk and honey?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#529149 May 3, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
You have sinned greatly promoting homosexuality and curropting the bible accusing me being evil and therefore your own blood will be upon you.
So you want me murdered, too.

You are such a beautiful example of what religion does to people.

Makes me wonder about the people patting you on the back here, too.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#529150 May 3, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
They (the Caananites)even tried several weird ritualistic things when it came on to perverting their beliefs such as marrying El with other deities. Long after Moses left Egypt and eventually saw their army of fighting men swell to more capable numbers after Moses was forbidden to enter into Caanan, Joshua had two routes into the land. The direct route which meant going up against the Moabites and their formidable armies that included chariots, something the Israelites were not furnished with and heavily fortified cities. Or, go the longer route through the Amorites and their less organized, smaller armies and smaller cities which were more like townships than anything else. Yes, the tactics were ruthlessly bloody generally Egyptian military tactics, weapons and formations used by the Israelites with heavy and ligh infantry and archers absent chariots.
Now usually, the Israelite armies were broken up into more covert tactical forces, that were far more mobile and better at hit and run tactics leaving the heavy infantry to do the more brutal mop-up work. Now much of the reasoning behind killing women and children were not known, but seeing that bit of history through a military perspective, you would certainly understand that what Israel eventually did was to drastically reduce the number of enemies Israel would have to deal with in the future. They were not designed nor ordered to be an Empire such as the Greco-Macedonians, so Israels aim was not to become a dynatic power over several foreign people. Strategically, Israel eventually positioned themselves where they would not be a land locked nation. they would eventually come to have a capable navy and terrain facing Jordan, Syria, Lebanon and Egypt that gave them a military advantage geographically even against overwhelming odds. You can ignore this if you prefer.
:)
<quoted text>
He is a being of perfection and the Almighty One. He is fully capable of both creation and ruin. He however chose to be merciful and unfortunately sometimes His way or mercy is to release you from your misery and offensive existence in an ugly fashion. He is above good and bad, he is Right always whether or not you think His methods horrific. We have unleashed sin upon ourselves, and all we can do is fall to His command and guidance in order to see ourselves through, because being outside of it, may cause us to drink from is cup of wrath and vengeance.
<quoted text>
Your end statement only confirms why discussions with you are pointless. Sad, but quite possibly true.
CS.
In the legal field, we sometimes refer to the Supreme Court as the "400 pound gorilla".(This imposing creature is always right, even when it is wrong, and there is no room to question its decisions or the reasons for its decisions.) This is how you are depicting your god--YOUR 400 pound gorilla.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#529151 May 3, 2013
high end wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh-Oh!
So much for christians thinking that Yhwh is the only god.
Yup. Their Bible says so.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#529152 May 3, 2013
Adam wrote:
@G_O_D
1 John 3:10. This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God's child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
OK. You are of the devil.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#529153 May 3, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
"I, El, say,'You are all Gods! You are all Begotten Children of El!'." - Psalm 82
I looked it up in King James, 1599 Geneva, and Hebrew. None say anything like this. The king James and the Geneva both use the word gods with a little g. The Hebrew and English Jewish family Bible says mighty ones. None say begotten. And there are more things that are incorrect. From the knowledge you have indicated that you have, it would give the impression of intentional deception or a trap to get someone into a discussion about translations. I have to admit, you have me puzzled with this one.
high end

Upper Darby, PA

#529154 May 3, 2013
AnnieJ wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay...so I am dismissed...I'm okay with that.
I tend not to respond to important issues or even unimportant issues when someone wants to limit my response to a short answer.
Your non-response to my issues are due to your attitude problem with me, from your debut post.
Instead of giving me a lengthy lecture as to my meaning of the term "set things straight", why didn't you simply just ask?

I defined what my intentions were but you were and still are acting like an ill-mannered juvenile.

If you wish to proceed, then drop that attitude.
If not then you are dismissed.
But hey, you're ok with the latter aren't you?

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#529155 May 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
What Creator?
Call it whatever you want ...FSM, Evolution, Paul Bunyan, the Great Spirit, the Great Pumpkin, etc ...
Why did "IT" design a lowly starfish to regenerate limbs (as well as certain other critters) but mammals cannot? And why not "IT'S" reigning mammalian achievement, the human being?
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
No. It's a word in the same font and size as all of the other words that means more likely than not, but not certainly. I do not know whether to include you among those that are sane enough to admit the obvious
Do as you please; it has no bearing on my life what-so-ever.
- that no god that loves her and has the power to heal her exists - but I suspect not.
She can regrow a fingernail, but not a finger ...
Which means what?? It means that your god has no more power than mine. Go figure!
What word or phrase would you recommend instead of "probably"? Likely? Odds are?
You nor anyone else will ever convince me that there is nothing greater than I.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#529156 May 3, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
What blame game?
Do you think that I am blaming a god that I don't believe in? Nobody is to blame that limbs don't regenerate, because there is nobody to blame. That has always been my position.
Your arguments have been a series of dodges and evasions. You just ignore my points, which in this case was that if such a god existed, it would be the one responsible for whatever happens - obviously. And your reaction was "This blame seeking game is rather immature."
What I see is you playing the "Don't blame my god for anything" game, equating an omnipotent god's part in choosing not to regrow limbs with the butterfly effect, and following that with something about killing butterflies. That's pretty absurd.
That is why I also commented, "This argument really disheartens me. Your rationalization of immorality in the defense of an undeserving god is a little off putting "
I say that faith based thought damages thought about reality and about moral issues, and this is a good example. Your church has warped your native decency, and has you defending indefensible behavior in its behalf.
I don't have a church.

Ians, you don't define me.

But as long as we're playing that game let me tell you what I see in you. I see an expat without the stuff necessary to make it in the USA. By your own admission, when it got too hard you pulled up stakes and headed south of the border. You are where you belong.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#529157 May 3, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed, just like science once believed before Johannes Kepler that the Earth was the center of the solar system. So, not to make your effort seem so one sided and biased (as usual), I'm showing that things do evolve in one way or another. You can't blame people for thinking the earth was flat in those days, not just religious people.
Lacez wrote, "
It's still fiction and will continue to be fiction until there is any actual proof for it."

I had to address this again because you really don't want prrof. Whatever evidence we could provide you with would not change your stance and your direction concerning morality.
Lacez wrote, "
It's amazing how much dodging and useless blabber you produce."

This says the man who has not contributed to a decent conversation with any meaningful evidence since coming in here except for bombast with meaningless criticisms.

CS.
So far, you've dodged every question, unable to answer a single one.

You continue to post to me yet you claim my posts are meaningless.
That is a direct contradiction, for there is obviously enough meaning for you to reply to my posts days later.

If you can present evidence of your god, I will be enticed to look more into it. Yet you have no inclination to provide evidence for you do not have evidence for the existence of a god, let alone yours.

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#529158 May 3, 2013
Lexis123 wrote:
I was raised in a family where Jesus is the religious God, im from a catholic country as well. I still pray to him though im not a hard core believer who always go to church, read bible, quote verses in regular conversation, preach wherever i am and gets angry when i met someone who doesnt believe in Him.
I respect Muslims, Jehovas, Orthodox, Buddhists even Atheists. I dont care what kind of God we are following as long as that God is teaching right things. Work, dont violate moral laws, be a helpful citizen, be honest and so on.
Why i do sound like Atheist most of the time? Because i hate my co-jesus followers when they disrespect the non jesus followers. Because im in the point of my life where im starting to ask things and find answers. There are some unclear things in our religion's history that makes me doubt it. Missing proofs, blurry details.
Im not after 'being saved in judgement day'.. I dont like to escape from anything (even without god karma and law will still haunt me for any wrong doings lol) Its just that i just wanna be sure of what im following as i dont like being fooled.
You want to try and get rid of the hate in you ~ very negative energy indeed.....

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#529159 May 3, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>It is what the Bible says, not me.

You were just praying for God to murder gays on the other thread.

You are evil.
Besides, I doubt he's responding to us with a pen and paper.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#529160 May 3, 2013
Truths wrote:
<quoted text>(c:

Hi (((((Adam))))))

Thank you for my hug!!
Oh look, a bigot hugging another bigot, how nice.
Ignore the fact that Adam wishes death on certain individuals like gay people, go on.
It's fine, it only professes your bigoted ideals more.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#529161 May 3, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text> OH. I see what you were referring to now. I must have not payed it any notice if I had read that.
Thanks for clearing that up.
Some time back, you said you met an "alien"...could you also expound on that statement?
I was just picking on Irrira.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#529162 May 3, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>Full of hate for a particular thing, not just broadly full of hate. However, basically agreed so far.
Lacez wrote, "
To hate is to extremely dislike."

Seems true, ok.
Lacez wrote, "
You are hateful."

Against certain things yes. Against murder, rape, homosexuality, pedophilia, bestiality, adultery, theft, extortion, gang violence, scamming, drug and gun running, terrorism and nuclear weapons. Each and every human being on this planet hates something, even if it's simply oatmeal or the neighbors crosseyed cat. You seem to hate beliefs systems that involve the worship of a supreme being which you easily dismiss as myth and superstition. You hold little regard nor do you treat with respect the history, the culture and traditions of religion, their institutions. You have no respect for people's faith, how they view it, practice it and even their own interpretations of it.

I too may not agree with a lot of these interpretations and religions, but I appreciate the variety, the when and wheres and whys. I can appreciate when a catholic speaks with passion and about the history of his or her faith (accurate or not), because their culture is so rich and still even steeped in much secrecy. You wouldn't mind seeing everything else except atheism flourish and be established, and that won't happen, just as, no matter how the countries make homosexuality legal, it still won't be moral.
Lacez wrote, "
To be intolerant is to be a bigot."

Yes, we are both intolerant of many things aren't we. I would suggest you take the 2x4 plank out of your eye before you seek to find the tiny splinter in mine. Especially considering the poor moral standing you embrace so passionately and aggressively .
Lacez wrote, "
You just admitted to being a bigot when in the past you've denied it so frivolously."

I've denied you trying to label me and everyone else a bigot while you're pirched on lofty position. You will assume rightful place and position your ego beneath heel. I will not accept bigot from your wretched definitions while seeking to elevate your status while trying to p!$$ on teh traditions and faiths of others in this thread.
Lacez wrote, "
Glad to see you're finally starting to get it."

Yes, and it appears I have moved ahead of you by leaps and bounds. Now it's high time you seek to find the clue you've claimed to have lost but may never have had.

CS.
So you admit that you hate gays.
Another step forward, now that you've admitted the problem, you can work on your homophobia and learn to treat the people of this world like people.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#529163 May 3, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
sir
I is most stupid and lost in the space dork,and clown,not worthy to respond to me anyway?
dumbshit

“Thank you GOD for JESUS”

Since: Jul 07

And thank you JESUS for caring

#529164 May 3, 2013
Epiphany2 wrote:
Today's Prayer
Dear God, I can do ALL things through CHRIST who strengthens me. Thank you, Jesus, for your strength and protection. Thank you God, for my Savior. Whenever that old devil comes at me with temptations, I will remind him that I can do all things who Christ who strengthens me and has saved me. Because of that, I can rebuke Satan through standing upon Scripture and leaning on you for my help. Jesus was the perfect example of this as he countered Satan's temptations with Scripture. May I open my eyes, ears, and heart to your word and your prompting. With thanks in my soul I pray, in the name of Jesus. Amen.
Prime time with God
Amen :)

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#529165 May 3, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>So you want me murdered, too.

You are such a beautiful example of what religion does to people.

Makes me wonder about the people patting you on the back here, too.
No need to wonder, through their words, it's obvious they stand for the same immoralities that Adam does.

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