Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528937 May 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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I think atheists want to believe Hitler was a Christian because it makes them feel better that they're not part of the "evil Christian empire".
You say you use Hitler's own words to prove he was a Christian, but all I've seen you (or any other atheist) post is his public speeches.
Well derp, of course he's gonna say shit the public wants to hear - he was a master politician.
Nope. It's because it is true.

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#528938 May 2, 2013
mike wrote:
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What value is off-spring if they are opposite of you?
No off spring Mike.

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#528939 May 2, 2013
Most of us have hear of or seen the "Left Behind" series. Or the view of the rapture or taking up. Every view I have heard goes something like this. Jesus wil come and take up those who are saved. Suddenly people will disapear. And everyone will wonder what happened to them. I am not so sure about this. In Luke Jesus concludes with there being eagle/vultures (depending on the interpretation). What are they there for? Those left behind will be alive and not a meal for eagles or vultures. I just wonder, perhaps it is a spiritual rapture or taking up and the bodies will be left behind. I am not saying that this is how it is or not it is just one of my thought and I would be interested in hearing others thoughts on the matter.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528940 May 2, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
...I just wonder, perhaps it is a spiritual rapture ....
That would make more sense. Have seen THAT happen for the last 50 years.

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#528941 May 2, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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I can imagine we'd both run out of paper!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =o2HB2aPazlYXX
Humm, that is your book in the video.
Cause you traveled all over the world.
God bless lu2

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#528942 May 2, 2013
Peace_Warrior wrote:
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BT... I know you posted me Bro and I kept it... just have to see where in my maze of extras to do! You're not forgotten...
... nor Booots.
Don't knock yourself out look'n for that PW.
It was just an affirmation of your previous post mostly.

<smile>

BT42

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#528944 May 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Nope. It's because it is true.
I would have to say I agree that it is reported that he claimed to be Christian. However :), did his actions support this claim? Just as with the crusades. Claims of christianity, but the actions taken are opposite to the teachings in the bible. You and I have discussed this before. Many claim to follow the teachings of Jesus. But realy there are very few who do. I do pray that I do better at following his teachings then I have. And no, it is not enough to pray. I thnk you know what I am saying. Talk is cheap.
I'm calling it a night. I just wanted to chime in a little first. Also while I'm thinking of it, previouslly I had said I would continue thinking on the Mary, Joseph and Jesus going to Egypt after his birth dilema. I have been thinking on it and recently I have come up with what might be the solution. I have to find some maps of the area at that time. To see if what I think could be possible really is possible. No acceptable answer yet. But I am still working on it :)

“Romans 8:1.”

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#528945 May 2, 2013
What's amazing is the fact that people like IANS along with many of the other atheists that have paraded through here over the life of this thread claim that they were once Christians but are no longer. But when it's pointed out that that's exactly the way it was with Hittler they come out of the wood work screaming "no no, Hittler was always a Christian, he was never an atheist that turned his back on God and Christianty".

It's really very funny to watch.

And as RR said. I believe it's because it's their twisted way to try and do anything they can to try to make Christianity look evil.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#528946 May 2, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
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I would have to say I agree that it is reported that he claimed to be Christian. However :), did his actions support this claim? Just as with the crusades. Claims of christianity, but the actions taken are opposite to the teachings in the bible. You and I have discussed this before. Many claim to follow the teachings of Jesus. But realy there are very few who do. I do pray that I do better at following his teachings then I have. And no, it is not enough to pray. I thnk you know what I am saying. Talk is cheap.
I'm calling it a night. I just wanted to chime in a little first. Also while I'm thinking of it, previouslly I had said I would continue thinking on the Mary, Joseph and Jesus going to Egypt after his birth dilema. I have been thinking on it and recently I have come up with what might be the solution. I have to find some maps of the area at that time. To see if what I think could be possible really is possible. No acceptable answer yet. But I am still working on it :)
I would be interested in that answer.
Nite.

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#528947 May 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
What's amazing is the fact that people like IANS along with many of the other atheists that have paraded through here over the life of this thread claim that they were once Christians but are no longer. But when it's pointed out that that's exactly the way it was with Hittler they come out of the wood work screaming "no no, Hittler was always a Christian, he was never an atheist that turned his back on God and Christianty".
It's really very funny to watch.
And as RR said. I believe it's because it's their twisted way to try and do anything they can to try to make Christianity look evil.
I haven't been here in quite some time so I can't comment too much on the first part. But I absolutely agree with the last.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#528948 May 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> That is true, and we a few on here as well, and they definitely lack the spiritual discernment to rightly divide scripture, let alone follow it, hypocrites are also those who claim to know and have Christ and openly reject his Word as being authentic as coming from God alone, cherry picking what they want to believe and accusing the men that God worked through to convey his Word as false prophets and go about to establish their own righteousness.
No matter which scripture we quote- or try to enforce- It all comes down to our hearts motive.

Do we correct each other due to love for them and for Christ-

Do we try and tell the non believer because we feel LOVE for the person? or just because we think we are right- and don't like to be told we are not?

God knows our motives and what trips us up- He guides the willing into being His servants in His way andfor His purpose.

To do less- is in error. Which is also sin~ But that sin is counted against us----not against those we are trying to show God.
Some people may not ever feel God's invitation- but we are to treat each person as ONE He is seeking- and abide in how He asks us to present Him .
~*~

1 Peter 1:18 For you know that God paid a ransom to save you from the empty life you inherited from your ancestors. And the ransom he paid was not mere gold or silver. 19 It was the precious blood of Christ, the sinless, spotless Lamb of God. 20 God chose him as your ransom long before the world began, but he has now revealed him to you in these last days.

21 Through Christ you have come to trust in God. And you have placed your faith and hope in God because he raised Christ from the dead and gave him great glory.

22 You were cleansed from your sins when you obeyed the truth, so now you must show sincere love to each other as brothers and sisters. Love each other deeply with all your heart.

Since: Sep 10

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#528949 May 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
What's amazing is the fact that people like IANS along with many of the other atheists that have paraded through here over the life of this thread claim that they were once Christians but are no longer. But when it's pointed out that that's exactly the way it was with Hittler they come out of the wood work screaming "no no, Hittler was always a Christian, he was never an atheist that turned his back on God and Christianty".
It's really very funny to watch.
And as RR said. I believe it's because it's their twisted way to try and do anything they can to try to make Christianity look evil.
I don't know about that.

I think it's all about people. If a person is a good person, it doesn't matter if he or she is a believer or not. Sure, there is a religious divide. But we should look at people as individuals, and not judge them by their "group". I am a nonbeliever. For example, I don't see eye to eye at all with lil whispers. But it's clear that lil whispers is among the good.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

Since: Oct 10

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#528950 May 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
What's amazing is the fact that people like IANS along with many of the other atheists that have paraded through here over the life of this thread claim that they were once Christians but are no longer. But when it's pointed out that that's exactly the way it was with Hittler they come out of the wood work screaming "no no, Hittler was always a Christian, he was never an atheist that turned his back on God and Christianty".
It's really very funny to watch.
And as RR said. I believe it's because it's their twisted way to try and do anything they can to try to make Christianity look evil.
God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work.
Radio address, 30 January 1945; from Thomas Streissguth (2002). World War II. New York: Greenhaven Press, p. 118.
Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. It was in the hand of Providence to snuff me out by the bomb that exploded only one and a half meters from me on July 20, and thus to terminate my life's work. That the Almighty protected me on that day I consider a renewed affirmation of the task entrusted to me. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neither by virtue of its number nor by way of its importance.
Radio address, 30 January 1945; from Franklin Watts, ed.(1945). Voices of History. New York: Franklin Watts, Inc., p. 49.
April 30, 1945 — Hitler commits suicide

That doesn't sound like the voice of an atheist who just escaped a murder attempt to me.
How about you?
If I were an atheist, I would have never made that speech, having been in that position.

“John 3:seventeen”

Since: Feb 07

God BELIEVES in YOU~

#528951 May 2, 2013
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((((((BlindMan)))))))

(c: GOOD to see you both !

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

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#528952 May 2, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
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I would have to say I agree that it is reported that he claimed to be Christian. However :), did his actions support this claim? Just as with the crusades. Claims of christianity, but the actions taken are opposite to the teachings in the bible. You and I have discussed this before. Many claim to follow the teachings of Jesus. But realy there are very few who do...:)
Agreed, which is why I consider Hitlaer as much a "Christian" as most "Christians".

Very few Christians follow the teachings of Jesus.

“Romans 8:1.”

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#528953 May 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work.
Radio address, 30 January 1945; from Thomas Streissguth (2002). World War II. New York: Greenhaven Press, p. 118.
Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. It was in the hand of Providence to snuff me out by the bomb that exploded only one and a half meters from me on July 20, and thus to terminate my life's work. That the Almighty protected me on that day I consider a renewed affirmation of the task entrusted to me. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neither by virtue of its number nor by way of its importance.
Radio address, 30 January 1945; from Franklin Watts, ed.(1945). Voices of History. New York: Franklin Watts, Inc., p. 49.
April 30, 1945 — Hitler commits suicide
That doesn't sound like the voice of an atheist who just escaped a murder attempt to me.
How about you?
If I were an atheist, I would have never made that speech, having been in that position.
I'm not going to argue what people may or may not believe about Hitler being a Christian, my post stands. What I will say is regardless of what he may or may not have said and done history shows that what he said and did was not Christ like. And it was about as far as a person can be from doing what Christ taught and what Christians and Christianity stands for.

“Romans 8:1.”

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#528954 May 2, 2013
Truths wrote:
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((((((BlindMan)))))))
(c: GOOD to see you both !
Hi Deb. God bless.

“ Ah see's lanlubbers Cap'n BT!”

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#528955 May 2, 2013
Red Apples wrote:
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I'm not going to argue what people may or may not believe about Hitler being a Christian, my post stands. What I will say is regardless of what he may or may not have said and done history shows that what he said and did was not Christ like. And it was about as far as a person can be from doing what Christ taught and what Christians and Christianity stands for.
That was the main point I was making.

"Saying" it don't make it so. Doing it "does".

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#528956 May 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>God the Almighty has made our nation. By defending its existence we are defending His work.
Radio address, 30 January 1945; from Thomas Streissguth (2002). World War II. New York: Greenhaven Press, p. 118.
Only He can relieve me of this duty Who called me to it. It was in the hand of Providence to snuff me out by the bomb that exploded only one and a half meters from me on July 20, and thus to terminate my life's work. That the Almighty protected me on that day I consider a renewed affirmation of the task entrusted to me. In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neither by virtue of its number nor by way of its importance.
Radio address, 30 January 1945; from Franklin Watts, ed.(1945). Voices of History. New York: Franklin Watts, Inc., p. 49.
April 30, 1945 — Hitler commits suicide
That doesn't sound like the voice of an atheist who just escaped a murder attempt to me.
How about you?
If I were an atheist, I would have never made that speech, having been in that position.
"And yet you were victorious" ...NOT!
~the headstones remain bare~

So regardless of what Hitler thought or tried to accomplish ...it should be obvious that his mission wasn't in alignment with the one he called God.

hick-up

“squuuze me”

Since: Feb 09

Florida, USA

#528957 May 2, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
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That was the main point I was making.
"Saying" it don't make it so. Doing it "does".
Good point BT ...

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