“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#528662 May 2, 2013
Evolution is only credible in species change. It is not credible when it comes to species to species change. And species to species change is what is needed for a chimpanzee to become your ancestors oy!lol, never happened. You do have a religion. As I will [repeat] again, the difference between a secular humanist and a atheist is akin to the difference between an Evangelical and a Lutheran. nominal to no difference. You just don't want to believe you're religious.
Well You are. Obviously you needed to get educated about your beliefs, that's the reason you're here. So learn well ~~grin~~
[QUOTE who="boooots"]<qu oted text>
Trifecta1, I have stated many times that atheism is not a belief. It is not a religion. You are saying that atheists are Secular Humanists (which is a religion of sorts) and Evolution is a religion, which it is not. Evolution is a process that has been proved to have occurred, and is still occurring, by scientists who specialize(d) in the fields of science which study such things as biology, genetics, geology, etc.
An atheist may not follow any of those last named things. An atheist is just anyone, and everyone, who has no beliefs in any deity. They could, though, have thousands of beliefs, just not in a deity, and yes some atheists are likely evolutionists, and some are likely Humanists. Some could be Wiccans, or Pagans, but likely most are just ordinary human beings who live their lives and never give a whole lot of thought to anything other than what they know.
In fact my wife and I were married in an Unitarian Humanist church, though both of us are former members of the same Christian denomination. I had never been to an Unitarian church prior to meeting my wife, and actually I had little, if any, knowledge of them. Some of the people attending that Unitarian church are actually believing Christians and Jews, and some are atheists, but they go because they believe in the goals of the secular humanist groups such as Unitarians.
Actually regardless of whether a human is a believer in a deity or not, if a human being is not a humanist than what really is his purpose in being part of the human community of the world? If we are not concerned about humanity then what do we contribute to the world, other than just one more mouth that the Earth has to feed?
Obviously everyone is a humanist because they are human.

A Secular Humanist, is a Philosophy, and a Religion. A Secular Humanist can be a Christian, but they can't be no Jesus Follower.

This is what your religion believes:
•After Death
An afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.

Check out some more beliefs here:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2001/06/What-...

So writer that church you went to where Christians and Secular Humanist holding hands, is just two philosophies you was around. Because a Secular Humanist cannot be a Christian in the religious context.

You must understand some people are Christians in the Philosophical sense. Some People are Christians in the Religious Sense. And some people are Christians in the sense of Following Jesus Christ. And some people, are the >>Trifecta<< and all three.:)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#528664 May 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
No more. No less.
Everyone has their own tastes.
I appreciate all books as they capture a person's or culture's thoughts for me to investigate, enjoy and sometimes reject.
I have a library full of books I will never get to read.
OK. But those books in you library aren't very important, especially the ones you'll never read. Whatever their value to you, your life would almost as good without them. If that's all we can say about the bible - no more, no less - well, I won't argue with that valuation.

You seem to be contradicting anybody who considers the bible holy - anybody who says that it contains the wisdom of a god. I thought that you were among them, and that you considered the book the most important book in existence, not in the same category as Lord Of The Rings.

Hey - it's nice to be able to converse again.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#528666 May 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't believe in your pagan Christ.
I believe in Jesus.
When you claim Christ and don't believe in all of his Word, you ARE worshipping a pagan idol and not the TRUE Lord of glory.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528667 May 2, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can't buy a Ferrari for $108,000.
308GTB $25K

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

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#528668 May 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
L100
Those stupid ones reading english translations full of Lies,
they are stupid and deceived not knowing that greek koine word "porneia" means homosexuality,fornaication,adu ltery, sex before marriage, or advertising sex
I wonder you people,why you discuss such abominable sin without of end>
Bible clearly say about sin,that is all?
Have blessed day L100
That's true Shrink, I trust no other translation of the Bible other than the KJV of the word, it's funny how they accuse some of us of twisting the Word and "cherry picking it" when they prefer to post scripture from man made translations and don't believe in it themselves.

Peace Shrink.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528669 May 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> When you claim Christ and don't believe in all of his Word, you ARE worshipping a pagan idol and not the TRUE Lord of glory.
I don't claim Christ. Christ is a Pagan Roman invention.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#528670 May 2, 2013
Yes, you do practice a religion. The sooner you confront the truth about yourself, the better human being you will become. I'm here to help you. There is also a Dr Shrink and a Dr Reality on the billboard available to contribute if more severe means of therapy is required.
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Sorry in my previous response to this post, I forgot to answer the first question. No, I don't practice any religion. I have no beliefs at the present time that I worship anything, or that I attend groups concerning, or that I preach to anyone.
I do belong though to a new thing that seems to be springing up recently called Meetups (google that if you are interested). My wife and I just got home around midnight tonight from a Meetup group which one person started for people who like to sing. He has karaoke equipment, and there were 4 people there tonight, including him, my wife and I, and one other woman, and we all sang several times. I sang several religious hymns or spirituals actually, not because I was worshiping but because I know and/or like the songs, and wanted to sing them (a lot of my background in singing was related to church). In fact all four of us individually sang Christian songs. We also sang other songs not related to a religion.
I previously belonged to a hiking club in this area, and also to International Toastmasters, which had a few clubs in this area. Currently I am not a member of either of those. I have also volunteered to work with seniors under the management of one of the regional social services organizations here. None of those activities were connected to religions.
You're a confused individual. In fact your sessions may be intense and severe. Your case looks daunting.

I'm familiar with meetups, but only pertaining to business.

You have a very active life and you want to help people. That is a plus when it comes to your case. Sing more hymns, that activity is one you should continue to do and should definitely intensify.

But if you don't return to Jesus Christ, your life would have been worth naught. Therapy Sessions on this billboard may help, but it won't get you to where you need to go. That is the job of YHWH Almighty God. And you must find him on your own. If you don't want to look, so be it.

Since: Jul 10

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#528672 May 2, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
Evolution is only credible in species change. It is not credible when it comes to species to species change. And species to species change is what is needed for a chimpanzee to become your ancestors oy!lol, never happened. You do have a religion. As I will [repeat] again, the difference between a secular humanist and a atheist is akin to the difference between an Evangelical and a Lutheran. nominal to no difference. You just don't want to believe you're religious.
Well You are. Obviously you needed to get educated about your beliefs, that's the reason you're here. So learn well ~~grin~~ <quoted text>Obviously everyone is a humanist because they are human.
A Secular Humanist, is a Philosophy, and a Religion. A Secular Humanist can be a Christian, but they can't be no Jesus Follower.
This is what your religion believes:
•After Death
An afterlife or spiritual existence after death is not recognized.
Check out some more beliefs here:
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2001/06/What-...
So writer that church you went to where Christians and Secular Humanist holding hands, is just two philosophies you was around. Because a Secular Humanist cannot be a Christian in the religious context.
You must understand some people are Christians in the Philosophical sense. Some People are Christians in the Religious Sense. And some people are Christians in the sense of Following Jesus Christ. And some people, are the >>Trifecta<< and all three.:)
trifecta1, will we every get anywhere as long as we each are trying to prove that the other falls into our definitions of certain words, rather than attempt to tap each others minds for some logical information concerning what we are discussing, or even better what the topic here is expecting us to discuss?

Somehow I don't feel either of us are getting anywhere the way we have been going. It isn't mine of course, but it is often said that when one keeps doing something that isn't working, then stop doing it.

Otherwise one remains always frustrated.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528673 May 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
OK. But those books in you library aren't very important, especially the ones you'll never read. Whatever their value to you, your life would almost as good without them. If that's all we can say about the bible - no more, no less - well, I won't argue with that valuation.
You seem to be contradicting anybody who considers the bible holy - anybody who says that it contains the wisdom of a god. I thought that you were among them, and that you considered the book the most important book in existence, not in the same category as Lord Of The Rings.
Hey - it's nice to be able to converse again.
I like books. I collect them for various reasons.
It is like having a shelf of worlds to explore. Maybe like knowing I have a few hundred channels on cable.
I may live to read them all, I may not. To me it doesn't matter.

As for the Bible, it useful to understand its history and the religions (ab)using it to discern their lies, fabrications and hallucinations and point it out to anyone willing to know the truth.

Sadly, most prefer to remain ignorant and deceitful.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#528674 May 2, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya, I've heard this atheist fad.
But that all it is.
Hitler hated Christians, and hated Jews even more. He hated Jesus, he saw himself as a god.
Get real.
See, the only reason you say that is because you hate that one of the most evil men in history was part of your religion and preformed his deeds in the name of it.

No matter how much you don't want it to be true, Hitler was a Christian and killed in the name of his god.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528675 May 2, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> .... I trust no other translation of the Bible other than the KJV.....
So you obey an English King instead of a Roman Emperor.

ROFLMAO

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#528676 May 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
Timothy Leary's dead.
I was once an active fan. I saw them live once - May 24, 1996 at Hospitality Point in San Diego. I found the set list on the Internet:

Overture / Late Lament
The Voice
Gemini Dream
Tuesday Afternoon
Eternity Road
Lean on Me (Tonight)
Never Comes the Day
Say it with Love
Steppin' in a Slide Zone
I Know You're Out There Somewhere
The Story in Your Eyes
Your Wildest Dreams
Isn't Life Strange?
The Other Side of Life
I'm Just a Singer (in a Rock 'n' Roll Band)
Nights in White Satin
Legend of a Mind
Question
Ride My See-Saw

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528680 May 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
I was once an active fan. I saw them live once - May 24, 1996 at Hospitality Point in San Diego. I found the set list on the Internet:
Overture / Late Lament
The Voice
Gemini Dream
Tuesday Afternoon
Eternity Road
Lean on Me (Tonight)
Never Comes the Day
Say it with Love
Steppin' in a Slide Zone
I Know You're Out There Somewhere
The Story in Your Eyes
Your Wildest Dreams
Isn't Life Strange?
The Other Side of Life
I'm Just a Singer (in a Rock 'n' Roll Band)
Nights in White Satin
Legend of a Mind
Question
Ride My See-Saw
Cool

My favorite bands were Moody Blues, ELP and Yes. Saw them all live in the 70's and 80's.
Many memories come back just listening to the songs now.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#528682 May 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Thank you for sharing. I'll keep that in mind if and when I ever communicate with you privately and individually.
It's a date!

You bring the chorizo.

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528683 May 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
you don't worship pagan jesus(angel of light,
And you don't worship Biblical Jesus and His Word-His breath?
also seems to me,you are worse from pagans, atheists, and all idiots on this globe
because your worship your own halucinations?
I caught man low profile reamrks from your posts,
it seems you are not so educated, only you claim to be to satisfy your ow wicked ego?
I am quite content with who and what I am.

Man, Demon, Angel; it makes no difference. They are all the same thing to me.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#528684 May 2, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
So you obey an English King instead of a Roman Emperor.
ROFLMAO
A GAY English king.

Do you see how much hypocrisy there is from Lawless?

“Love much, trust none”

Since: Jul 11

There

#528685 May 2, 2013
Dr Shrink wrote:
<quoted text>
why you post this crap,
nobody cares?
You seem to.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#528686 May 2, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Was there a point that went with this? You do this a lot. You think that whatever point you may be imagining is self-evident and doesn't need to be stated explicitly. It does.
Do you know what flat means in the context of a flat earth? It does not mean perfectly flat, as in no local maxima or minima, and no curvature. It refers to the shapes that can be created from a flat surface without connecting the edges to one another or adding holes. These are called open surfaces to distinguish them from surfaces with no edges, such as the surface of the earth.
Look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SurfacesWit...
The first and third images on the left are topologically equivalent closed surfaces - no edges - and neither is flat. One can be transformed into the other without joining parts or drilling holes.
The middle surface on the left is also a closed surface, but is topologically distinct from the first and third. You cannot generate it from them without either rolling them into a cigar shape and connecting the ends, or drilling a hole. From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/top... :
"In mathematics, the study of the properties of a geometric object that remains unchanged by deformations such as bending, stretching, or squeezing but not breaking. A sphere is topologically equivalent to a cube because, without breaking them, each can be deformed into the other as if they were made of modeling clay. A sphere is not equivalent to a doughnut, because the former would have to be broken to put a hole in it. Topological concepts and methods underlie much of modern mathematics"
The three surfaces on the right are all topologically the same. Any can be transformed into the others just with deformation. No breaking or connecting is necessary.
Even the bowl shape is flat in this sense, since like other planar surfaces, it has edges, and a top side and a bottom that are distinct domains not connected except by traversing the edge. The biblical earth is in this set. That is what is meant by flat. It's edges might be elevated to hold in the oceans. And its surface may be deformed with mountains and valleys. But is has a top side, an underside, and edges.
That's incredibly interesting and I thank you for sharing it.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#528687 May 2, 2013
lil whispers wrote:
When are the wicked dead to be raised to receive this final punishment.
I know.

Time Of The Season - Zombies


[Cool video]

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#528688 May 2, 2013
No problem, get to the writing when you can . A Jesus Follower and a Christan can be the same thing, but they can be different as well. Many people are Christians because they were born into a Christian family, but they don't follow Jesus Christ. They don't attend church or worship or praise or pray to Jesus or read the bible about Jesus. they don't do none of that. That is not a Jesus Follower, that is just a Christian. Your Hitler analogy is wrong. Someone reading about Hitler to find out who he was, most times does not call themselves a Nazi. But there are Christians that read about who Jesus is, but have no intentions of worshiping Jesus Christ. Some people follow Jesus as a philosopher pertaining to this life only. So lots of distinction when it comes to Christianity and Christian.
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I skimmed that post, trifecta1, not because I want to diminish what you say, but because due to my busyness yesterday I got a bit behind in several threads I follow, and I could tell you are saying much the same as you have already to me.
A Jesus follower and a Christian are the same thing, other than a person who is a literary buff, or perhaps a history or myths buff, might follow the life of Christ as a study, without believing in what Christianity believes in (a fine line I think, but I suppose I could be a follower of Hitler, having read everything about him (which I have not done) just to fully understand the monster he was, and still have no love for Hitler. In that way I guess you are correct).
I think though if you and I are going to discuss this topic, we both need to stop analyzing the other, and discuss the topic objectively. We will not ever get anywhere the way we have been approaching it until now, IMO.
I believe that if we found ourselves on a bus or a plane sitting beside each other on a long trip and decided that conversation was important to make the trip seem to go quicker (which has worked for me), we would not approach this topic the way we do here, assuming we were discussing this topic on such a situation.
I hope you are not the one that I agreed with yesterday to not post to each other (my thinking is it was Lawest), because my over-used brain and lack of sleep last night has left that unclear.
You need help writer. So I not going to cast you away just yet. But if I find myself repeating to the point that I repeat with some other atheists here, then I going to treat you like I treat another atheist here and not respond to you.

Your case still bad though. Anyone who turn they back on Jesus Christ, it usually very hard for them to return, but it not impossible.

Agree the conversation on a plane may be better. But maybe not. There are all kinds of distractions on a plane. movies crying babies food service and all that. so this billboard may be better for you.

Really though only YHWH God can help you. But the fact that you still doing some religious activities in your life. YHWH may see a little glimmer of hope in you. I not know though, that between you and YHWH.

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