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#527828 Apr 30, 2013
Cont...

The insurrection and coup of Akhenaten(religious and governmental), was no doubt, the result of influences of these “elite” individuals, and their powers of persuasion within and without the kingdom of Egypt, and the cause of the expulsion of Moses and the Hebrews from Egypt. Especially in the light that they were in complete conflict with the religious order of the kingdom, and causing instability from “within”, as Egypt was based entirely on the religious order of divine rule of (aA) being in direct contact with the ALL(being truth, justice, and fair) with the help of Maat and other lesser deities...that being totally unacceptable to the Hebrew migrants who they allowed to settle there.
One can also see the reason for the defamation of magick by the Abrahamic “elite”.

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#527829 Apr 30, 2013
Adam wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you hit the nail on the head with that comment.
arrogance and pride is what makes the athiest a fool.. and that is why it is so easy to use their own logic against them.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#527830 Apr 30, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
(...)
I noticed the Menorah in your icon...

Do you know what the Menorah represents in Judaism? This is but one meaning of many.

The branches coming out of the trunk of the Menorah ending in almond blossom shapes represent the tree of life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menorah_ (Hanukkah)#History
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menorah_ (Temple)

"The Asherah, the Menorah and the Sacred Tree"
http://jot.sagepub.com/content/20/66/29

It just so happens that the virginally conceived life/death/rebirth deity Attis was the result of an almond eaten by Nana, the daughter of the river deity Sanginarius, and Attis was born. Nana tried to kill Attis by exposure, but local shepherds rescued him and raised him. Attis is often represented in ancient depictions with a lamb draped around his neck and shoulders. The watchful shepherd rescuing the vulnerable lamb from danger just like he had been, by shepherds.

Atttis died at the foot of a tree, he was dead for three days then resurrected. 1200 BCE.

Groves of trees were associated with Asherah. Virgin births too(think Mary). Asherah birthed many offspring, each lesser gods, also worshiped by those early polytheistic Semitic tribes to lesser or greater degrees. Some of those tribes eventually became known under the collective name, "Hebrew".

Asherah was also associated with oceans and water, known as "the Goddess who walks the sea" and in earlier religions, her offspring lived there. She and her offspring, being gods of the seas, were seen to give the bounty of the waters as blessing to their worshipers. http://www.asphodel-long.com/html/asherah.htm ...

Couple that with her offspring inhabiting the sea, AND walking the sea herself, and it could be asserted the mythical Jesus was metaphorically visiting "mom" when he walked on the water. Lets not forget he was a carpenter, too, working with, you guessed it - wood.

Loaves of bread were commonly baked in the form of Asherahs figure, shared or exchanged and eaten in her honor during a special time or festival after a bountiful harvest and signifying partaking of the Asherahs body, or life. Eternal, in it's symbolism.
http://www.dhushara.com/book/orsin/asherah.ht ...
http://www.asphodel-long.com/html/lady_wisdom ...

A possible tie to the communion wafer of today as well. Jesus? Loaves of bread? Fish from a sea? Shared? Feeding multitudes? Good fortune? With jars of water or fluid (commonly wine) used to drink with the bread offering....

You gotta be kidding me. In my opinion, coincidence is next to impossible. But, this is how mythology works. Tiny stories woven into a larger theme.

If you understand this about mythology it becomes very clear that the reason it captivates people is because of that multi threaded aspect and it represents a history of an evolving culture. A culture that needs and should remember the culture itself is made of many stories, all combined to tell its present story.

We shouldn't be surprised at the wording in that classic commandment; "thou shalt have no other gods before me", as multiple god worship persisted around Baal, Asherah, and Yahweh until the time of Moses (remember the burning bush?, the staffs that turned to serpents?) in Judaism, and later. Judaism retained polytheistic influences until as late as 300-200 BCE. Which, not surprisingly, is in close proximity to the earliest known copies of the Torah/Tanakh, and some scholars think that polytheism may have persisted as late as 100 BCE in some Jewish sects. I happen to think it still persists.

Christians disagree with that.

Baal, Asherah, Yahweh, the original triune? Another subject entirely.

Or is it?

It'd be a hoot if you were utilizing a pagan symbol, eh?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#527831 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I'm not related to HL or to any of her rescue cats.
But whenever I can catch her, I catch her.
Catcher.
BTW, are you still suffering from a horrible case of homophobia?
Laughing at you. Its funny. I had a good day here and then caught up on a bit of news. So an nba "star" comes out and says I have sex with other men. Then the Pres of the U.S. gives him a call. Its called "courageous" by some. Mind you, this is the same Pres. that could not be bothered by the events that led to the deaths of real "courageous" people in Benghazi, Libya. Could it be that just perhaps that aren't so many that have homophobia as you and others say just about every day (at least here on topix) and might just be blowback from some that think its not "courageous" at all? Words mean things and we are witness to many of these words meaning somthing they don't with some people.

“Pillars of Creation....”

Since: Jan 11

Into this world we're thrown

#527832 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
More humor?
Ya, kind of like in your face humor..........

Been to Guantanomoe lately?

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#527833 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> "A gay in denial"???.......I shouldn't ask, but what do you base THAT on?
Again, you are the last person along with a few others here to call anyone ignorant, you are badly ignorant of God's truth and have gone about to justify yourself outside of God's Word of which you do not believe. Also you are the one who is a staunch defender of homosexuality, which have for sometime now made me wonder about many of you.
Romans 10:2-4
2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
Again I have to wonder what do some think is going to happen? A good part of this population knows how to live right as the bible shows that. Nothing good can come from this manipulation going on in this nation.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#527834 Apr 30, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya, kind of like in your face humor..........
Been to Guantanomoe lately?
I've been laughing quite a bit. Its either that or cry. Its like real life is an episode of the Twilight Zone.

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#527835 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
More idle threats from monsieur l'homophobe.
Hey bigot, how are you going to put Christians in the "dustbin" as you posted before? I do thankyou for once again showing you hate on display for a good part of the people.

Since: Apr 13

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#527836 Apr 30, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
boooots is a socialist/communist like stalen and marx, the largest mass murderes in all of history
Marx was a mass murderer? Was that Groucho or Chico?

Who is Stalen?

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#527837 Apr 30, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your honesty CS. I appreciate that.
About the bad starts...If you start off poorly, you can only go up from there y'know. It usually(not always) brings the worst emotion and tells out, so you have a good idea what to expect. It's kinda like poker. Then ya get ta deal with the "real" person.
If I can offer you any information or whatever to help you in any way, you know I always will...differences and all...it is what it is.
Feel free to remind me of this statement any time.
You are most welcome BT #42.
:)
You're ok by me, and I pray it remains that way. People can have differences and respect each others line that is drawn, then once a clear understanding is forged, it can be put aside so we can learn of each other as human beings, scholars, people who have similar and differing interesrs, concerns, goals and yes, even friends.

You see some of these people (on both sides) fail to realize that without honesty, there can be no true friendships and respect is a hollow and shaky column on a sandy foundation. I have two people who I call good acquaintances, one I may even call friend who is gay. They know where I stand and I know where they stand. So whenever I see them, we don't bring it up and they don't flaunt their behavior or opinions. It isn't brushing it under the carpet, it is clearly understanding and respecting the views of others and let it go. If the gays impose their beliefs and behaviors up on me, I will have a problem, so I don't go around Topix seeking out the gays to bash them.

Just letting you know how I approach things at times.

Shalom.

Andrew (CS).

“Rainbow: God's covenant ”

Since: May 07

Clearwater and Honolulu

#527838 Apr 30, 2013
Serah wrote:
<quoted text>Where is that written Booooots? Never heard that before?
I wounder if they were Christians? Have you ever read Foxe's Book of Martyrs? Countless people were put to death by very painful ways. Many were part of the church. I have my doubts that they were part of the true chuch that the Lord builds.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527839 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
"all evidence for that would be in the bible" and you need not look anywhere else to get more info on what you're studying. That's why your ignorant if the bible and that why I say you read it with an elementary level.
All evidence for what?

"What historical evidence did you offer? What historical evidence could there be of what the bible says? All evidence for that would be in the bible."

There is no evidence for what the bible says that is not in the bible. If it's from another source, it's evidence of what that source says.

For example, there is nothing in any Topix post that offers evidence for what the bible says. There may be opinions about what it says here, but that is not evidence of anything actually in the bible.

If you want to insist that your bible does not mean a literal dome over heaven, and that anybody who disagrees is misunderstanding the bible, you need to use the bible and only the bible to do that, and you need to find a scripture that unambiguously affirms your claim. Plus, there can be no contradictory scriptures.

This is why you have no authority on the matter. Your revisionist version of biblical cosmology is not supported by the bible. Mine is.

Sorry.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#527840 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text> well then since it seems like you volunteering, you prove he went to germany. I don't believe him/her.
It appears that your memory of the chain of events leading up to my rebuttal of your comment was faulty, and your logic is faulty.

If you can't remember something that involved you and how it progressed in just the past few hours how can you assert anything with any degree of certainty?

My comment had nothing to do with your comment to MisterCarrinton that needed to prove to you he'd been to Germany.

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

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#527841 Apr 30, 2013
Black Thunder 42 wrote:
<quoted text>
No. Long past from the physical.
Sorry to hear that BT. Was she swept away from her mortality by the aging winds?

Expert in all things

Redding, CA

#527842 Apr 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
All evidence for what?
"What historical evidence did you offer? What historical evidence could there be of what the bible says? All evidence for that would be in the bible."
There is no evidence for what the bible says that is not in the bible. If it's from another source, it's evidence of what that source says.
For example, there is nothing in any Topix post that offers evidence for what the bible says. There may be opinions about what it says here, but that is not evidence of anything actually in the bible.
If you want to insist that your bible does not mean a literal dome over heaven, and that anybody who disagrees is misunderstanding the bible, you need to use the bible and only the bible to do that, and you need to find a scripture that unambiguously affirms your claim. Plus, there can be no contradictory scriptures.
This is why you have no authority on the matter. Your revisionist version of biblical cosmology is not supported by the bible. Mine is.
Sorry.
Is there any evidence that atheism is true?

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#527843 Apr 30, 2013
Rider on the Storm wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya, kind of like in your face humor..........
Been to Guantanomoe lately?
Is "Guantanomoe" like "Guantanolarry", "Guantanocurly" or "Guantanoshemp"?

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#527846 Apr 30, 2013
scaritual wrote:
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It appears that your memory of the chain of events leading up to my rebuttal of your comment was faulty, and your logic is faulty.
If you can't remember something that involved you and how it progressed in just the past few hours how can you assert anything with any degree of certainty?
My comment had nothing to do with your comment to MisterCarrinton that needed to prove to you he'd been to Germany.
And what does your comment, have to do with [me]?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527847 Apr 30, 2013
Riverside Redneck wrote:
That opinion right there is why you get it wrong, IANS. You read the bible as if it's "just a collection of vague, erroneous and self-contradictory claims". You too possess an extreme confirmation bias. Thanks for playing.
G_O_D wrote:
Agreed. And most Christians read it as a history and science book. Both miss the whole point.
And what point am I missing?

You're right, though. I misspoke. The bible is more than just a collection of vague, erroneous and self-contradictory claims. It's also got trivial observations, meaningless genealogies comprising first names, some absurd claims, a few stolen moral precepts of value as well as some bad, original ones - and probably more.

Do you think that it contributes anything of value? If so, could you offer a few examples of anything worth going to the bible for?

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“If all the historic books of the Bible were blotted from the memory of mankind, nothing of value would be lost.”- Robert Ingersoll

"The Bible was written by the same people who said the Earth was flat." - George Bernard Shaw

“The Bible is not the verbally inspired, inerrant word of God; it is just a collection of contradictory, discrepant books that were written by superstitious ethnocentrics who thought that the hand of God was directing the destiny of the Hebrew people.”- Farrell Till

Since: Jul 10

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#527848 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> I'm not pretending to be God, but of course anyone Blessed with the knowledge of God's Word and can rightly divide the scriptures, would likely seem like a God to you, and there is not a bigger fool than someone who refuse to believe in any of God's Word because of an Apostle that don't like and so consider that part of the Bible to be non-legitimate, and argue in favor of a book like Thomas, which God didn't allow to be included in the Bible for obvious reasons, if THAT is not a FOOL..........then I don't know what is.
Strangely I have never found that someone blessed with God's Word and who can rightly divide the scripture seems like a God. Actually I guess the more correct way to say that is I have never seen someone who can do that, and especially those posting on this site, however I know that you may believe 100% what you are saying is right, and that is okay, but I am 100% positive that you do not have the power you claim nor do you have the knowledge of God you claim.

Getting back to a much used cliche, which I have even seen believers using it in the opposite way, is that if anyone on earth actually knew for sure that God exists or that the Bible is absolutely true, then we would not be having this conversation.

Because of the power that a belief in a god holds over such a huge number of humans, such knowledge would be spread so fast and everyone would know it so quickly that only those who had no contact with other people in the world would be the only ones left to not believe.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

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#527849 Apr 30, 2013
Counter_Strike wrote:
<quoted text>
Well said Trifecta 1. Unfortunately, may be a wasted post on someone who set their feet in quick dry cement, never again to be removed from final choice concerning his destiny.
Shalom.
Andrew (CS).
True thing. To me though it's his choice to keep his feet in quick dry cement and keep drowning for all eternity. I just hope no Christian on this billboard ever let them think there is any hope for them outside of Jesus Christ. If they keep rejecting Jesus Christ and keep they foot in the quick dry cement, at least they know it's totally on them and Christianity never tell them no doctrine to help them keep they foot there.

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