Why Should Jesus Love Me?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527893 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text> what is it to you?
What's Charrington's travels to you?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527894 Apr 30, 2013
Adam wrote:
@HL
Your arguments are weak and devoid of any religion based logic. Everything homosexual even slightly gay is wicked in the eyes of the LORD. The LORD loathes gay friendly arguments like those from you and your friends.
"Religious based logic"? We try to avoid that scrupulously.

Your "lord" is a mythological creature, like Pan.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527895 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
Having religious people think objectively about their religion is like asking a six year old to be objective about Santa Claus.
No, because that is more plausible.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#527896 Apr 30, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Laughing at you. Its funny. I had a good day here and then caught up on a bit of news. So an nba "star" comes out and says I have sex with other men. Then the Pres of the U.S. gives him a call. Its called "courageous" by some. Mind you, this is the same Pres. that could not be bothered by the events that led to the deaths of real "courageous" people in Benghazi, Libya. Could it be that just perhaps that aren't so many that have homophobia as you and others say just about every day (at least here on topix) and might just be blowback from some that think its not "courageous" at all? Words mean things and we are witness to many of these words meaning somthing they don't with some people.
Good evening Chris. I know that we are not in full agreement over President Obama, but I do agree with you that that his standing behind someone openly admitting that they are homosexual is disgusting to say the least, not only that, but the idea that so much of the media and sports related people touting this "man" as someone noble and a potential leader of his fellow gays is off of the charts dispicable, this nation is headed for Hell.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527897 Apr 30, 2013
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
More idle threats from monsieur l'homophobe.
What's he going to do?
Reply with more extremely long posts that I won't read?

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#527898 Apr 30, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey bigot, how are you going to put Christians in the "dustbin" as you posted before? I do thankyou for once again showing you hate on display for a good part of the people.
You misread my post.

I'm not going to put anybody anywhere.

What I said was that homophobes will be relegated to the dustbin of history.

Yeah, you.
Expert in all things

Redding, CA

#527899 Apr 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Now that you ask, I have done a rather extensive search and cannot find examples. I may have to admit that I have confused belief in a flat eath to a belief that the sun orbited around the earth, for which some famous men were executed, only those that I foudn were exectued for a number of actions against the church inclduing that one.
Giordano Bruno was one person who was executed for his opinions that went against church beliefs of the time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_Bruno
Galileo, who was given a job that Bruno had applied, for was given a very hard time for his findings also, though he was not executed for them.
I will have to concede that particular claim I made may have been in error, at least until such time as I find the information that I had seen a while back concerning that.
In any event we know that many people were executed by Christians, even in the New World, for things which they should not have been but which those who accused them were claiming they were going against Christian beliefs.
I will now quietly try to sneak out a back door with my head down.
This however doesn't alter at all my lack of belief in a god, but perhaps it shows that I too, like believers can make claims that are false, or at least not known to be true.
Good to know that you are willing to further research an argument and can weight the data available. That leads me to believe you are in a stronger position to exchange ideas.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#527900 Apr 30, 2013
Chris Clearwater wrote:
<quoted text>
Again I have to wonder what do some think is going to happen? A good part of this population knows how to live right as the bible shows that. Nothing good can come from this manipulation going on in this nation.
Indeed, God is not mocked, and as with an individual, the same applies for a people as a whole, they shall reap the whirlwind tragically enough.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#527901 Apr 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Nice post, amigo.
Muchas gracias, paisano.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527902 Apr 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
What can bible study yield that is anything like that? Nothing at all, which is why I rejected Riverside Redneck's comparison of the benefit of studying to neuroscience to studying his bible.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
You're stupid, man. I never made that claim.
What claim, maggot?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I was comparing your "I've read the bible so I know it" to "I've read a neuroscience book so I know it". Neither can be understood simply by reading a book.
Of course your bible can be understood just by reading it. But why bother?

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527903 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>I think he see the logic because he did not make an attempt to answer that writing. Maybe since he see you bring it up now he will get brave and make an attempt. We can only hope.
Actually, I am ignoring responses like that because I refuse to take part in your disgusting fantasies.

“Educating the uneducated”

Since: Aug 12

Montreal

#527904 Apr 30, 2013
Adam wrote:
@Boooots
What does the Bible Say about homosexuals?
The places where the English word "homosexual" occurs in the Bible are found in two verses:
1 Cor. 6:9, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." (NASB, ESV, NIV,)
1 Tim. 1:10, "realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous man, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted." (NASB, ESV)
In Each case, the Greek word used for homosexual is
arsenokoites. Here is what it means according to Greek dictionaries.
gen. arsenokoítou, masc. noun, from árse n a male, and koít a bed. A man who lies in bed with another male, a homosexual Cor. 6:9,Tim. 1:10 Lev. 18:22; Rom. 1:27])
male homosexual, one who takes the active male role in homosexual intercourse (1Co 6:9), specifically interpreted as male homosexual paedophilia (nab footnote); possibly a more generic term in first Timothy; sodomites (rsv, nrsv, nkjv), perverts (niv, neb, reb), practicing homosexuals (nab), homosexual (njb),(1Ti 1:10+), note: translations possibly use certain specific terms to infer or allow certain theologies. Swanson, J.(1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Greek (New Testament)(electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc
Actually, the places where "homosexual" occurs is nowhere in the bible.
The word didn't exist yet.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#527905 Apr 30, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
boooots is a socialist/communist like stalen and marx, the largest mass murderes in all of history
Interesting comment, which doesn't speak well of both your intelligence or your reading ability, as I have many times claimed I have absolutely no liking of communism at all, as it is one of the worst things that happened to a large part of the world in the 20th century. Though in theory the idea of everyone being equal and everyone working for the whole might look good on paper, it has been a dismal failure in all countries that have tried it, and because of extremely corrupt leaders in those countries also, has caused a great deal of killing and suffering of millions of people.

Productivity suffers terribly under such government because of lack of incentive to do better.

I am not a Socialist though I know from a many years of experience that socialized medicine that we have in Canada is a far superior system to the one in the USA which helps the rich but lets the poor suffer. One thing that a country must take care of is the health of its members, because without their health the members cannot do the other things they need to do, nor is it a very good human rights issue to have good medicine for the rich and none for the very poor.

Our system has through mainly bad government decisions become less efficient than it was earlier though, with very high patient loads for doctors, shortage of staff and funding to open enough hospital beds for those who require them, and very long waiting times for some procedures, some of which would save lives if they were carried out more promptly.

This though is an administrative problem, with some bad government decisions in the past which left us somewhat vulnerable, though still way ahead of most places in the world. Essentially the system had got too good, for a period, and because some could see some serious problems with over staffing, etc., they made big cuts which then created a problem in the other direction.

These are some of the little problems those of us who live in a democracy have to put up with, because we can so quickly elect a new government into power which undoes a lot of good the previous governments did, and we elected them because of some particular issue that upset people against the existing government of the time.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#527906 Apr 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Strangely I have never found that someone blessed with God's Word and who can rightly divide the scripture seems like a God. Actually I guess the more correct way to say that is I have never seen someone who can do that, and especially those posting on this site, however I know that you may believe 100% what you are saying is right, and that is okay, but I am 100% positive that you do not have the power you claim nor do you have the knowledge of God you claim.
Getting back to a much used cliche, which I have even seen believers using it in the opposite way, is that if anyone on earth actually knew for sure that God exists or that the Bible is absolutely true, then we would not be having this conversation.
Because of the power that a belief in a god holds over such a huge number of humans, such knowledge would be spread so fast and everyone would know it so quickly that only those who had no contact with other people in the world would be the only ones left to not believe.
The power to correctly divide the scriptures Boooosts comes from God's spirit alone, and it is understood by all who believe on him, again, since your mind and heart are closed to these things, it is not surprising in the least that you cannot understand it, to analogize it this way for you, if something is going on inside of a building with people in it witnessing the happenings, then how can you know what is going on inside when YOU are on the OUTside of the building with no way to look in?
Adam

Germany

#527907 Apr 30, 2013
Lacez wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, the places where "homosexual" occurs is nowhere in the bible.
The word didn't exist yet.
Your words are meaningless.

Since: Sep 10

Hermosa Beach, CA

#527908 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
<quoted text> Good evening Chris. I know that we are not in full agreement over President Obama, but I do agree with you that that his standing behind someone openly admitting that they are homosexual is disgusting to say the least, not only that, but the idea that so much of the media and sports related people touting this "man" as someone noble and a potential leader of his fellow gays is off of the charts dispicable, this nation is headed for Hell.
I, on the other hand, am very proud of Jason Collins and of our President.

The times, they are a changin'.

And very rapidly.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#527909 Apr 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
I had completed a lengthy reply to that post, when my computer, which is quite old, crashed. Not having the patience to re-type everything again, I will just say that a wise man speaks so that the person with the least ability to understand will understand what he is saying. That was a comment made by professor in one of my university classes when one of the students who had quite a vocabulary of elitist words and loved to show off was speaking, such the most there didn't understand him.
Without going into a long response of which I do not feel like doing right now, I will say this truthfully.........anyone whose heart is open to hearing in a different fashion, will understand what I am saying.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#527910 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>oy! lol. Is sarcasm writer. because if anyone really think YHWH Almighty going to care one whit whether you don't believe you have a soul or care whether anyone think if Jesus Christ is a myth before he destroy their soul for eternity, then I don't want to interrupt their happy thoughts. you go on believing that writer LOL
Trifecta1, with respect, and likely this has been mentioned to you often, but your posts are just stuffed full of logical errors.

“Jesus is coming soon”

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#527911 Apr 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
All of your posts would make any sense only if what you believe to be true was actually true, which no one here can verify. Continuing to insist that, no matter what you or we say, you are right anyway just won't cut it with this group.
Still cannot get it through your cranium that your approval or anyone else's is not required, I don't have to "cut" anything with any group, because I know IN whom I have placed my trust and no man's approval is required, please let that sink in, ok?!

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's teapot

#527912 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
It's the same to me. You can point to Germany on a Map.
Your bible isn't the same as a map, in that it doesn't refer to a verifiable and physical place that your mythic deity can be located at, and the bible relies on a faith supported religious belief.

Germany exists as a verifiable place that can be located on a map, and with a map, you can locate Germany, a verifiable and physical place, and it does not rely on a faith supported religious belief to do so.
trifecta1 wrote:
The Earth declares God:
Psalm 19:1
The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
The earth is the earth. The earth doesn't "declare" anything.

Verb: declare
1. State emphatically and authoritatively
2. Announce publicly or officially
3. State firmly that something is true
4. Judge or state to be
5. Authorize payments of
6.(bridge) designate (a trump suit or no-trump) with the final bid of a hand
7. Make a declaration (of dutiable goods) to a customs official
8. Proclaim one's support, sympathy, or opinion for or against
WordWeb Pro 6.6
trifecta1 wrote:
The existence of the Earth, Plants, Animals, Human Being and this Universe, is as obvious of God's existence, as Germany exist.
Nope.

Your mind is all over the place and you're jumping between literal reality and faith based deity belief.

The existence of Germany is based in our commonly shared reality(unbiased evidence(S) supporting its existence, convincing to theists and non theists).

Your deity belief is a biased and faith supported religious belief(only convincing to the believers in your deity).
trifecta1 wrote:
It's the same, to me.
That's why your logic is faulty.
trifecta1 wrote:
What your logic have to with me?

Reality that doesn't utilize faith based belief as evidence.
trifecta1 wrote:
the logic of a supposed atheist, is foolishness.
Don't be angry.

You just don't have the noetic ability to understand.

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