Why Should Jesus Love Me?
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#527719 Apr 30, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
.. here's your May, 2013 response ..
<quoted text>
INSULT
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CONDEMNATION #1
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CONDEMNATION #2
.. all the Lawess gang has left is condemnation and insults ..
Last I checked it´s still the 30th april. We know something is coming but that doesn´t make it better.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#527720 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>You don't believe Jesus was the Christ? OK. Then you don't believe Jesus was the Christ.
If BibleJesus is indeed the Christ, then the consequences of your unbelief has nothing to do with me right? the consequences of you being wrong, will be between you and Jesus Christ. Because then you will know when you face Jesus, that Jesus is indeed the Christ. You figure out what you gonna do then writer? Are you have all your apples in one basket that when you die Jesus is not the Christ oy!
I understand. I have all my apples in one basket to that when I die, Jesus is the Christ and the anointed Son of YHWH Almighty God.
You miss the other possibility.

That is that we 'believers' are wrong and have wasted our lives on the meaningless and non-existent.

I sincerely hope that no sane deity accepts Pascal's Wager.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#527721 Apr 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you really feel that using Pascal's Wager is a valid way of bringing someone to become a believer?
As I have [repeated] many times, you becoming a believer in Jesus Christ, is the job, of YHWH Almighty.

That not my job. And Jesus never tell anyone to make anyone a believer in him. Jesus say for [me] to believe, and that what I do. Each person must believe on their own. Each person is responsible for their belief, or unbelief.

I'm not betting there is a God, I KNOW there is a God. So pascal wager not apply.

Faith for me is believing in BibleGod. And so far my faith in BibleGod, has been verified to me 1000x10000 times.

Pascal's Wager won't help nobody. No one get any brownie points from God just because they believe there is a God. This life's question when it comes to God is, Whom do you put your trust? As for me, Jesus Christ. Another want to say Allah or Vishnu or Thor, that their thing.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#527722 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Genesis is believed to have been written just before or during the Babylonian exile of the 6th century BC.
Enuma elish is believed to have been written in the 2nd century, BC.
That would be the Second *Millennium* BCE.

The oldest copy of the Enuma Elish is dated based on archaeological site/discovery evidence from 2000 to 1700 BCE.

http://www.theologywebsite.com/etext/enuma/ei...
http://www.ancient.eu.com/article/225/
http://www.jcu.edu/bible/200/Readings/EnumaEl...

Not the 2nd century.

The 2nd century BCE does, however, correlate to the oldest fragments of the Torah.

"The oldest surviving Hebrew Bible manuscripts date to about the 2nd century BCE (fragmentary)."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible
The oldest complete copy of the Torah dates to around 400CE.

"The oldest record of the complete text survives in a Greek translation called the Septuagint, dating to the 4th century CE (Codex Sinaiticus). The oldest extant manuscripts of the vocalized Masoretic text, which modern editions are based upon, date to the 9th century CE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dating_the_Bible

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#527723 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>So you betting your eternity that the accounts of the BibleJesus not true because the human memory so bad and people forget what really happen eh?.....
Because the 6000 year old stories are engraved in stone that prove the OT is garbled story.
The 200+ texts that the Christians tried to destroy prove the NT is a biased collection of garbled stories.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#527724 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
<quoted text>
You miss the other possibility.
That is that we 'believers' are wrong and have wasted our lives on the meaningless and non-existent.
I sincerely hope that no sane deity accepts Pascal's Wager.
It not matter to me.

Because to be a Jesus Follower, means to KNOW Jesus Christ spiritually.

If person not know Jesus Christ spiritually, emotionally, prayerfully, closely, then they just a Christian.

So if a Jesus Follower know Jesus Christ spiritually, they not concerned about meaningless and non existent or pascal wager and all that. Because words like myth or meaningless or wrong or non existent when it comes to the Jesus Follower and Jesus, those words, don't mean anything. The Jesus Follower mostly gloss over those words, because the Jesus Follower know, what they know. And nobody can convince a person that what they know, is not so. The Jesus Follower either will laugh or become apathetic. Some of the time, I just laugh.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#527725 Apr 30, 2013
G_O_D wrote:
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Because the 6000 year old stories are engraved in stone that prove the OT is garbled story.
The 200+ texts that the Christians tried to destroy prove the NT is a biased collection of garbled stories.
And unbelief, is a choice.

“The eye has it...”

Since: May 09

Russell's Teapot

#527726 Apr 30, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
You're stupid, man. I never made that claim.
I was comparing your "I've read the bible so I know it" to "I've read a neuroscience book so I know it".
Neither can be understood simply by reading a book.
Only one of those can be further understood by actually examining physical evidence.

Noun: neuroscience
1. The scientific study of the nervous system

WordWeb Pro 6.6

The nervous system is not a faith supported "belief".

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527727 Apr 30, 2013
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Your god is evolving with man. Apparently, he no longer commands you to not suffer witches, nor hovers above in the clouds. Job 22:14 - "Thick clouds veil him, so he does not see us as he goes about in the vaulted heavens."
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
I don't agree, with your statement or Eliphaz's statement.
Oh.

Do you have any reasons for your opinions that others might benefit from reading, or perhaps challenge - or did you just want us to know where you presently are at concerning that issue?

So, you think that Eliphaz was wrong? Me,too. I guess we found common ground right away.

Since: May 11

UK

#527728 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>And unbelief, is a choice.
....choose to believe in leprechauns...just for 10 minutes.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#527729 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>It not matter to me.....
That is the standards religious answer, and close to the truth.

Truth and reality don't matter as long as you think you you are better than everyone else.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527730 Apr 30, 2013
blind man n the bleachers wrote:
The knowledge of Good and evil is in the heart of every man.
My heart tells me that it is evil to drop a conscious being into fire. It also tells me that it is evil to keep him conscious just so that he can suffer endlessly to the benefit of nobody.

What do you think? Evil, as my heart reports to me, or perfect love?

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#527731 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>As I have [repeated] many times, you becoming a believer in Jesus Christ, is the job, of YHWH Almighty.
That not my job. And Jesus never tell anyone to make anyone a believer in him. Jesus say for [me] to believe, and that what I do. Each person must believe on their own. Each person is responsible for their belief, or unbelief.
I'm not betting there is a God, I KNOW there is a God. So pascal wager not apply.
Faith for me is believing in BibleGod. And so far my faith in BibleGod, has been verified to me 1000x10000 times.
Pascal's Wager won't help nobody. No one get any brownie points from God just because they believe there is a God. This life's question when it comes to God is, Whom do you put your trust? As for me, Jesus Christ. Another want to say Allah or Vishnu or Thor, that their thing.
Why then your irrational arguments, such as Pascal's Wager, when commenting to a non-believer. You just stated it is not your responsibility to make me believe, so then why make posts such as you do which clearly indicate you are 'trying' to convince people to believe.

I know that your figure of 1000X10000 times is not true, but I would be very happy if you could give me even one of those times, which is verified, that God did whatever it was that verified your faith in God.

I think if you are going to make such a statement, and 1000X10000 is a lot of times, which indicates that you have a huge amount of proof, then you should be able to tell us at least one of them, which is not too 'personal' that you can't share it, and besides if part of the bringing people to Jesus is through one's own testimony, if you are going to give testimony, then it is not enough to say you have the testimony, but you actually need to give it.

Your saying that you have 10 million examples to prove God has to mean that you know absolutely, and I am pretty sure that no one can have 10 million experiences that no one else has also witnessed, at least some of them.

If you had only one experience per day every day for 80 years that would only be 29,200 experiences, so your 10 million must mean that you have had experiences thousands of times a day every day of your life that verified the existence of God.

Since: Jul 10

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#527732 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>And unbelief, is a choice.
So do people who still don't believe that the earth is not flat, make a choice, and they are still right, or put another way the believers who believe the earth is not flat are making a choice and they are wrong?

“Quo Vadis”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#527733 Apr 30, 2013
Happy Lesbo wrote:
Adam wrote:
What is the name of the game that HL plays?
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.. we play the same game ..
.. CS thinks I'm frustrated and confused ..
.. having 10,000+ scarves does that to a person ..
No, it just means you need to be featured on teh upcoming season of Hoarders.

CS.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#527734 Apr 30, 2013
MisterCharrington wrote:
<quoted text>
....choose to believe in leprechauns...just for 10 minutes.
Choose not to believe Germany exist...just for 10 minutes.

“I.Spirit.Son.God”

Since: Jan 12

Location hidden

#527735 Apr 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
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So do people who still don't believe that the earth is not flat, make a choice, and they are still right, or put another way the believers who believe the earth is not flat are making a choice and they are wrong?
....huh, eh???

what you talking about writer?

Show me anyone that believe the earth is flat. And the bible never said the earth was flat.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#527736 Apr 30, 2013
LAWEST100 wrote:
You continue to prove my previous point with this continued foolishness of sputtering useless ordinances ...

1 Corinthians 10:25
25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake:
Great post. You immediately sputtered a useless whatever that is. It's not a sentence.

You posted that effluvium as if you thought that it had value - some timeless wisdom that you thought bore repeating. Would you care to share with us what that is, inasmuch as I can't understand scripture for a variety of reasons, including "fall[ing] in the trap of being a one verse wonder" and "making a fool out of [myself] trying to argue over something that [I am] not Blessed to understand." How do shambles, eating and conscience relate?
Adam

Frankfurt Am Main, Germany

#527737 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>Choose not to believe Germany exist...just for 10 minutes.
That was funny.

Since: Jul 10

Location hidden

#527738 Apr 30, 2013
trifecta1 wrote:
<quoted text>....huh, eh???
what you talking about writer?
Show me anyone that believe the earth is flat. And the bible never said the earth was flat.
Yet Christians had other Christians put to death for claiming that the world was not flat.

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